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Old 10-28-2006, 11:06 PM   #41 (permalink)
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or call dell....
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Old 10-29-2006, 02:14 AM   #42 (permalink)
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the picture is hilarious of your desktop you built. I say that because a computer gaming place uses the EXACT SAME cases as you have for yours. For a second i thought you were sasa from CGC. I always wondered if they made the case cutting out the alien symbols or if they just bought it pre made. Now I know the answer.



Anyways, After reading all of your posts I doubt i'll be having a gaming desktop made for me. Little bit out of my price range. We'll see though once i move out to chicago if i have enough to blow on a gaming comp.
you want my laptop?
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Old 10-29-2006, 02:32 AM   #43 (permalink)
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no laptops. I've had a laptop now for about 5 years. Got it because I was like "ohhh i could take this all over the place". Then quickly realized that it basically stays on a desk plugged into the battery 24/7. Mine as well use that 17" lcd monitor I won so that's why i'm looking into desktops now.
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Old 10-29-2006, 01:17 PM   #44 (permalink)
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All those lights and such are just the fans and the $120 case....maybe 160 total for all those fans and lights, but that one isn't built especially well sinne the blow hole fan at the top is outside of the case (potential hazard), and really those LED lights are not as high performers (loudness and CFM movement specs) as others that spend less on lights and more on R&D.

Depending on the important stuff (CPU, PSU, RAM, HD, Drives, Cooling, etc) I could build a very similar case for about 500-800...depending on the interior that is.

WOW! we have a psychis.This person can tell just by looking at pictures how this works.The top fan is an exhaust for the cpu fans. The air flow is in from the side and front and out the top and rear.I used a smoke can to test air flow. It flows quite well thank you.SO piss off retard!

I have $78 dollars in the case and fans with all the LED's.
AMD DTR 3200 64 cpu overclocked to 2.5 ghz. Runs around 42 celsius at full load with a thermaltake copper tower and 2 80 mm stealth fans.
Soltek MB K8av2-R1L via chip set
2 gig Kingston ram with timing set to match the overclock.
2 80 gig WD Sata Raptors on raid.
BFG 6800gt 256 ddr overclocked to 1430 mhz runs 51 celsius.
Soundblaster Audigy X-gamer 24 bit sound.
Sony 52x reader
Sony DvD burner.
I have barely $600 in the whole system.
This system is about a year old. It's not the best, but can handle any game I can throw at it. SO it works perfect for me.I'm no expert computer builder. I only do it for a hobbie.I have built a dozen or so systems for friends and not ONE has ever took a crap or crashed.
You know. It's really shitty I get flamed for offering to help build a PC system for someone. Forget I offered.
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Old 10-30-2006, 12:29 AM   #45 (permalink)
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WOW! we have a psychis.This person can tell just by looking at pictures how this works.The top fan is an exhaust for the cpu fans. The air flow is in from the side and front and out the top and rear.I used a smoke can to test air flow. It flows quite well thank you.SO piss off retard!

I have $78 dollars in the case and fans with all the LED's.
AMD DTR 3200 64 cpu overclocked to 2.5 ghz. Runs around 42 celsius at full load with a thermaltake copper tower and 2 80 mm stealth fans.
Soltek MB K8av2-R1L via chip set
2 gig Kingston ram with timing set to match the overclock.
2 80 gig WD Sata Raptors on raid.
BFG 6800gt 256 ddr overclocked to 1430 mhz runs 51 celsius.
Soundblaster Audigy X-gamer 24 bit sound.
Sony 52x reader
Sony DvD burner.
I have barely $600 in the whole system.
This system is about a year old. It's not the best, but can handle any game I can throw at it. SO it works perfect for me.I'm no expert computer builder. I only do it for a hobbie.I have built a dozen or so systems for friends and not ONE has ever took a crap or crashed.
You know. It's really shitty I get flamed for offering to help build a PC system for someone. Forget I offered.
your words make me dizzy
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Old 10-30-2006, 01:10 AM   #46 (permalink)
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WOW! we have a psychis.This person can tell just by looking at pictures how this works.The top fan is an exhaust for the cpu fans. The air flow is in from the side and front and out the top and rear.I used a smoke can to test air flow. It flows quite well thank you.SO piss off retard!

I have $78 dollars in the case and fans with all the LED's.
AMD DTR 3200 64 cpu overclocked to 2.5 ghz. Runs around 42 celsius at full load with a thermaltake copper tower and 2 80 mm stealth fans.
Soltek MB K8av2-R1L via chip set
2 gig Kingston ram with timing set to match the overclock.
2 80 gig WD Sata Raptors on raid.
BFG 6800gt 256 ddr overclocked to 1430 mhz runs 51 celsius.
Soundblaster Audigy X-gamer 24 bit sound.
Sony 52x reader
Sony DvD burner.
I have barely $600 in the whole system.
This system is about a year old. It's not the best, but can handle any game I can throw at it. SO it works perfect for me.I'm no expert computer builder. I only do it for a hobbie.I have built a dozen or so systems for friends and not ONE has ever took a crap or crashed.
You know. It's really shitty I get flamed for offering to help build a PC system for someone. Forget I offered.
People flame rides just as quickly when they post pics of their cars, so it is no wonder bro. It's all in the nature of "If you're gonna put it out there, you're gonna have to take both the good and the bad."

BTW, I wasn't flaming your computer, just saying it wasn't made necessarily for a baby-friendly environment. Sorry if you took offense
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Old 10-30-2006, 02:36 AM   #47 (permalink)
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People flame rides just as quickly when they post pics of their cars, so it is no wonder bro. It's all in the nature of "If you're gonna put it out there, you're gonna have to take both the good and the bad."

BTW, I wasn't flaming your computer, just saying it wasn't made necessarily for a baby-friendly environment. Sorry if you took offense
I got ya. I just got a little cranked when someone tells me my system isn't built right or correctly.It is a custom build.There really isn't a right or wrong way.As long as it works and operates correctly is what matters. I have a two year old.Haven't had any finger in fan problems. It has a fan shield on it.No way for fingers to get in.
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Old 10-31-2006, 01:28 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Oh, I'm sorry, you have been working with computers longer than I so that must make you the most qualified person ever to comment on them. I see from you vast knowledge that you know all about computers. Now If you do know about computers, good for you, but don't criticize something just because you have never heard of it.

Dust
1. Dust will slow down the heatsink fan. This leads to overheating and a lower productive capacity of the components. Just think of how effective the Pentium 4 works (without dust).

2. Dust can corrode the circutry on the board

3. Dust can conduct electricity. Who wants a wandering electric current in their computer where it shouldn't be?


Hard drive speed
Defragging will certainly help recluster components to make the system more efficient, but a larger hard drive will always run slower than a small hard drive.

The disks spin will slow down over time. There's nothing you can do unless you replace it. And heck, even dust can do this.
In this case, yeah, I am probably one of the most qualified people here, with the diplomas, certifications, and resume to back it up.

Dust will only slow down a fan if it builds up on the blades itself. That takes years to do unless in a very dusty environment...usually, the computer will have either been replaced or dusted before it becomes a real concern. In a more normal environment, the more immediate concern is dust collecting on the cooling fins, reducing the cooling efficiency. Again, proper maintenance and care will eliminate that concern.

I will concede that dust can corrode components...in sufficient quantities, along with the presence of sufficient moisture. Fairly rare conditions. Same can be said with electrical conductivity. However, all of those are of equal concern as the vast majority of factory-built computers have no dust filters, allowing any dust to be sucked right in via intake fans, as I stated earlier.

I'd be interested to see cited references showing how a larger hard drive will be slower than a smaller hard drive.

I'll concede that seek times may be a ms or two off among drives with similar spindle speeds and like interfaces, but there will be little to no appreciable performance difference that a consumer (or even professional) would notice via use. The same could obviously not be said when comparing say, a 5400 RPM ATA/66 drive with a 15KRPM SATA or SCSI device.

Disk spins will NOT slow over time. Drives rated to spin at x RPMs will not function unless they are spinning at that speed. That's why drives must spin up to be accessed. If the spindle cannot turn the platters at the appropriate speed, the onboard controller cannot access the stored data....it'd be like playing a 33.3 RPM record on a 45RPM player....or trying to run a 120VAC device on 12VDC. Eventually, the motor will simply fail to spin the disks up (meaning it can't overcome initial friction to spin the platters) and the drive is dead. While anecodotal and not evidentiary, I've had 6+ year old drives working perfectly fine.

However, if you can show me where any of this is documented by a reputable source (and a cursory google search couldn't...i checked), I'll gladly eat crow and apologize.
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Old 09-06-2007, 02:51 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Old 09-06-2007, 11:13 PM   #50 (permalink)
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A few things to keep in mind:

Unless you already have OS software (windows xp, vista, etc.) that you purchased (did NOT come with a dell/hp/any pre-made pc, as these are usually configured to only recognize the pc they came with), you're going to have to shell out upwards of $200 for even the most basic windows vista full ed (or learn to use unix/linux; redhat's not too expensive).

You'll also be lacking anti-virus software (unless DoD employee, or college student, etc. and can get it for free). Not a big deal to some, but nice to have. If you have neither a firewall (windows xp/vista one is ok, zonealarm is free) nor anti-virus, you will get a virus in about 3 seconds of being online, and it will likely be the one that shuts down your computer within 60 seconds (speaking from experience what a pain to fix).

You won't have Microsoft Office (no Word, Excel, PowerPoint, etc.) unless you have already purchased these products (I'm not sure you could move these from a Dell/HP/etc. to a self made).

With that said, building your own PC is surprisingly easy (watch someone do it once and you'll be able to do it yourself forever), fun, and you get exactly what you want and nothing you don't. Since you already have 2 "OK" computers, you could cannibalize those and save some money. For instance, take the two HDs and put it in your new PC (format first of course) - voila, saved about $150 (no RAID 0 but you can do that later). Take the better of the two power supplies, save another $50+ (assuming it has the right molex connectors). Take the tower/case (assuming it's ATX), save $50. To be honest I'm not sure if Dell/HP uses proprietary parts that only fit each other...if they do, then disregard this. If not, you can use the money you save to get quality components, and then later go back and upgrade the rest.
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