ground control coilovers

[Diaz90]

lookin into buying some coilovers.. and i ran into ground control... what do you guys think? good? bad? maybe?

http://www.ground-control-store.com/products/description.php/II=716/CA=15

[BigMoney8481]

this has been talked about a few times. rear springs known to fall out under full excurson.

[Toxis]

as the first to own them, not recommended unless you can get struts and rig a way for the rear springs to stay put when you lift the car.

[redline8500]

i dont have any problems with them falling out they pop when you put it on the ground though

[Toxis]

When I jack the car up, the rear springs fall out. If you have a way to correct this, I'm all ears! The springs are not long enough to stay compressed and fit. Someone said to change the front springs to the back but I don't see that as a fix or if it'd even be possible. I went directly off GC's install instructions. Sucks cuz I need to change my rims soon but by doing so, I have to lift the rear up by putting the jack under the LCA.

[HTX]

wow thats unacceptable. That just shows they didnt test shit when making this set-up.

[redline8500]

no it just shows that they are a real coil over they always try to fall out how low do you have the sleeve cause i also found some rubber to put on top of the spring to keep it from binding up

[HTX]

yeah a properly made product is designed to fall out

[Toxis]

the rears are set to the highest setting. What kind of rubber did you put up there? Pics?

[Toxis]

Originally Posted by HTX

yeah a properly made product is designed to fall out

I hope this is sarcasm. A properly made product is designed to come out, not fall out.

[HTX]

it was sarcasm. seriously though when u lift your car ur springs fall out? That would piss me off. That could prove to be dangerous in the even u take a turn hard enough to pick one of the rear wheels off the ground and end up losing a spring or shift out of place. Thats not safe. I've never heard of anybody having this problems before with any other brand coilover

[Toxis]

Exactly. Luckily for almost a year, I've been ok but yes, the springs fall out. If I take a jack and raise it up to the point the tire lifts up, the rear spring falls out. This is the only time I've heard of a spring falling out but it obviously wasn't designed correctly.

[redline8500]

no the tc klines on our m3s do the same thing, i put like a flat 1/4 thick piece of hard rubber on the top of the spring nothing that would keep it from falling out just makes it quieter maybe you have the sleeves in wrong my dont fall out and my adjuster is only three turns from the bottom

[Highrev1]

We utalize a nutsert in our rear setup to prevent this fall out of the springs

[Toxis]

Originally Posted by redline8500

no the tc klines on our m3s do the same thing, i put like a flat 1/4 thick piece of hard rubber on the top of the spring nothing that would keep it from falling out just makes it quieter maybe you have the sleeves in wrong my dont fall out and my adjuster is only three turns from the bottom

pics? I find it hard to believe these could be in wrong as they were done exactly as GC states.

Originally Posted by Highrev1

We utalize a nutsert in our rear setup to prevent this fall out of the springs

pics please! I'd like to see all ideas of what to do to correct this.

[mitsukaiSI]

^ not to beat old dogs but i would like to know if anyone has found a fix for the GC setup cuz id like to run them on the track

[Highrev1]

One issue is when the car is on a lift or jacked up with lowering springs the rear spring will fallout...So this is what we made..The rear collar sits in the upper spring perch location and is fastened by a Nutsert. The nutsert acutally holds that upper mount in place preventing the spring to fall out

[mitsukaiSI]

and how much does a pair of those run? and how does that affect springrate?

[redline8500]

did you guys put the sleeve and collar on the top in the back if so thats wrong its supposed to go on the bottom my spring is actually holding itself in there and like i said im only three turns from the bottom. btw nice machine work highrev that must have taken forever to make well at least about a good 6hrs

[Sirbelch]

How does the MS3 suspension apply to our suspension?

Revy had it CNC'd. Doesn't take that long when doing that.