Hawk HPS or Axxis Ultimate Ceramic

**sickyute** · 06-20-2006, 08:39 PM

so which would u go with and why?

MaKo · 06-20-2006, 09:34 PM

I can only speak to the Hawk HPS pads. Never tried the Axxis. Have been using the HPS pads for a couple of years now on different vehicles and they are a vast improvement over any OEM's I have seen from Honda, Toyota, or GM. You will note a definite improvement in stopping power and fade. Dust build up is lower also. These pads are pretty quiet also, which to me is a big plus. I hate squeaky brakes with a passion.

larryd · 06-21-2006, 02:34 AM

Well I sell both so let me tell you what I would tell any other customer.

Hawk HPS - This is what 90% of our customers purchase for all kinds of applications be it 400hp cars or 4 ton trucks :)

Axxis Ultimates - We don't sell very many of them but IMO they are the best pad on the market. I ran them on my Integra along with Power Slot rotors and the braking was improved what seemed about 200%.

So to compare them... The HPS pads being semi metallic will give you less brake dust then the Axxis Ultimates as the Ultimates are a Ceramic/Kevlar mixture. I seriously have never had a dustier pad then the Axxis Ultimates as they turned my bronze wheels black on a daily basis. The Ultimates will give you better braking as they have more tolerance to heat soak. I ran the pads several times up to 100 and back to 0 with no brake fade whatsoever. The Hawk HPS pads will have alot of tolerance but they would give out before the Axxis pads would. Lastly would be the life expectancy; The HPS pads should outlast the Ultimates by a pretty decent amount was once again the metallic pad will wear less then the ceramic pad.

Either way, you can't go wrong :)

**webby** · 06-21-2006, 03:21 AM

^^^ great post

Fixer · 06-21-2006, 10:14 AM

^^^
^^^

Was indeed a great post. Said quite a bit in few words. Thanks for the info.

2RotorMotor · 06-21-2006, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larryd

Well I sell both so let me tell you what I would tell any other customer.

Hawk HPS - This is what 90% of our customers purchase for all kinds of applications be it 400hp cars or 4 ton trucks :)

Axxis Ultimates - We don't sell very many of them but IMO they are the best pad on the market. I ran them on my Integra along with Power Slot rotors and the braking was improved what seemed about 200%.

So to compare them... The HPS pads being semi metallic will give you less brake dust then the Axxis Ultimates as the Ultimates are a Ceramic/Kevlar mixture. I seriously have never had a dustier pad then the Axxis Ultimates as they turned my bronze wheels black on a daily basis. The Ultimates will give you better braking as they have more tolerance to heat soak. I ran the pads several times up to 100 and back to 0 with no brake fade whatsoever. The Hawk HPS pads will have alot of tolerance but they would give out before the Axxis pads would. Lastly would be the life expectancy; The HPS pads should outlast the Ultimates by a pretty decent amount was once again the metallic pad will wear less then the ceramic pad.

Either way, you can't go wrong :)

Awesome, thanks for the review.... Im going with HPS pads...

**sickyute** · 06-21-2006, 03:33 PM

So no that this is taken care of....06 Si owners should be aware that we share the same brake pads as the RSX type S and the S2000. if u want an upgrade go ahead and get those...
they fit...

2RotorMotor · 06-21-2006, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sickyute

So no that this is taken care of....06 Si owners should be aware that we share the same brake pads as the RSX type S and the S2000. if u want an upgrade go ahead and get those...
they fit...

I thought it was only the fronts??

**sickyute** · 06-21-2006, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2RotorMotor

I thought it was only the fronts??

if the fronts fit then the rear should also.
i'll go get some at pep boys...hopefully they have them in stock and i'll let yall know.

2RotorMotor · 06-21-2006, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sickyute

if the fronts fit then the rear should also.
i'll go get some at pep boys...hopefully they have them in stock and i'll let yall know.

what brakes do they have at pepboys? the hps?

**sickyute** · 06-21-2006, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2RotorMotor

what brakes do they have at pepboys? the hps?

yea i went to hawk's site to look for vendors in my area...and the majority that came up were pep boys...like 20 of them and murrays speed and custom.
they should have all the hawk pads...hps, hp plus and ceramic.

2RotorMotor · 06-21-2006, 05:03 PM

ok thanks...

larryd · 06-21-2006, 05:10 PM

Actually most Pep Boys don't carry the HP Plus or HP Ceramics only the HPS and generally they keep low stocks but can order them to have them in a day or two.

**twistedframe** · 07-31-2006, 12:44 PM

anyone ever find out for sure if the rsx or s2000 pads fit? I checked part numbers and they are all different so i was just wondering what the outcome was.

2RotorMotor · 07-31-2006, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twistedframe

anyone ever find out for sure if the rsx or s2000 pads fit? I checked part numbers and they are all different so i was just wondering what the outcome was.

The rsx pad WILL fit ours... I bought a set of rsx pads last week and installed them, apparently most chains don't have the si in their catalogs yet..

**twistedframe** · 07-31-2006, 01:47 PM

ok thats good to know b/c I was checking part numbers and the only ones that match are the rear pads. I guess the front are the same size just a different material or something. BTW does it matter RSX s vs the base model RSX?

**sickyute** · 07-31-2006, 01:49 PM

i bought RSX-S...and they fit...front and rear.

2RotorMotor · 07-31-2006, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twistedframe

ok thats good to know b/c I was checking part numbers and the only ones that match are the rear pads. I guess the front are the same size just a different material or something. BTW does it matter RSX s vs the base model RSX?

I got the type-s...

06-20-2006, 08:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
sickyute Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl Age: 28 Posts: 9,471 Marvie iTrader: 12 / 100%	Hawk HPS or Axxis Ultimate Ceramic so which would u go with and why? __________________ Shift when it blinks! http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2640940 FA5 http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2216565 FG2

06-21-2006, 03:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
sickyute Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl Age: 28 Posts: 9,471 Marvie iTrader: 12 / 100%	So no that this is taken care of....06 Si owners should be aware that we share the same brake pads as the RSX type S and the S2000. if u want an upgrade go ahead and get those... they fit... __________________ Shift when it blinks! http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2640940 FA5 http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2216565 FG2

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sickyute Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl Age: 28 Posts: 9,471 Marvie iTrader: 12 / 100%	i bought RSX-S...and they fit...front and rear. __________________ Shift when it blinks! http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2640940 FA5 http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2216565 FG2

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06-20-2006, 09:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
MaKo Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Tampa Bay, FL Posts: 305 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I can only speak to the Hawk HPS pads. Never tried the Axxis. Have been using the HPS pads for a couple of years now on different vehicles and they are a vast improvement over any OEM's I have seen from Honda, Toyota, or GM. You will note a definite improvement in stopping power and fade. Dust build up is lower also. These pads are pretty quiet also, which to me is a big plus. I hate squeaky brakes with a passion.

06-21-2006, 02:34 AM	#3 (permalink)
larryd Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Delaware Posts: 1,809 iTrader: 2 / 100%	Well I sell both so let me tell you what I would tell any other customer. Hawk HPS - This is what 90% of our customers purchase for all kinds of applications be it 400hp cars or 4 ton trucks :) Axxis Ultimates - We don't sell very many of them but IMO they are the best pad on the market. I ran them on my Integra along with Power Slot rotors and the braking was improved what seemed about 200%. So to compare them... The HPS pads being semi metallic will give you less brake dust then the Axxis Ultimates as the Ultimates are a Ceramic/Kevlar mixture. I seriously have never had a dustier pad then the Axxis Ultimates as they turned my bronze wheels black on a daily basis. The Ultimates will give you better braking as they have more tolerance to heat soak. I ran the pads several times up to 100 and back to 0 with no brake fade whatsoever. The Hawk HPS pads will have alot of tolerance but they would give out before the Axxis pads would. Lastly would be the life expectancy; The HPS pads should outlast the Ultimates by a pretty decent amount was once again the metallic pad will wear less then the ceramic pad. Either way, you can't go wrong :)

06-21-2006, 03:21 AM	#4 (permalink)
webby Acorns! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Storage Room B Posts: 14,470 iTrader: 12 / 100%	^^^ great post

06-21-2006, 10:14 AM	#5 (permalink)
Fixer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 628 Esteban iTrader: 0 / 0%	^^^ ^^^ Was indeed a great post. Said quite a bit in few words. Thanks for the info.

06-21-2006, 05:03 PM	#12 (permalink)
2RotorMotor Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,904 iTrader: 0 / 0%	ok thanks...

06-21-2006, 05:10 PM	#13 (permalink)
larryd Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Delaware Posts: 1,809 iTrader: 2 / 100%	Actually most Pep Boys don't carry the HP Plus or HP Ceramics only the HPS and generally they keep low stocks but can order them to have them in a day or two.