Springs will eventually ruin your Car?

[Endo07si]

Hey I really want to lower my car probably with the Tein S-Tech Springs, but I've been told recently that springs will eventually kill your shocks and some ohter stuff and that it somewhat makes your handling worse(I don't get that cause doesn't it stiffen your ride)? anyways I've seen some pics and it makes the car a lot better but my questions is since I want them really soon, are they a good investement if their eventually gona mess something up before I sell the car? In that case I might as well wait and save up to buy Coilivers (Tein Type Basic)... Also anyone have any before and after pics? Gladly apperciate it

[Nick3237]

i would just buy the hfp lowering kit, its made by honda so its not going to hurt your car. Its got the shocks and the springs, it lowers the car about 1". Its a good way to keep the warranty on your car, i think they go for $500-600 depending on where you buy it.

[Endo07si]

Originally Posted by Nick3237

i would just buy the hfp lowering kit, its made by honda so its not going to hurt your car. Its got the shocks and the springs, it lowers the car about 1". Its a good way to keep the warranty on your car, i think they go for $500-600 depending on where you buy it.

really? I had no idea there even was such a thing provided by honda! lol well 1in is pretty good but I haven't seen any info about it on their website...so its true that springs will ruin my car? if so after around how many miles? and springs/coilovers void your warranty?!?!? no way...

[Redelicious]

ya i would like to know too.. i want my car dropped with either tein s techs or eibach prokit using my stock shocks.. i was thinkin of hfp originally but i decided i wanted a bit more dramatic drop.. but i dont want to spend a lot gettin coilovers and/or camber kits... maybe eventually, but not rite now..

[fern2021]

i know H&R has springs that will drop your car about 3/4 of an inch. i will probably be getting these, i don't want to drop my car alot and then worry about needing camber adjustments. you can find these for under $250.

[Nick3237]

yeah the hfp kit by honda for the si coupe is part number 08W60-SVB-100, theres one for the sedan too but im too lazy to look it up. you can buy them directly from your dealer or college hills honda, etc. aftermarket springs wont hurt your car but you usually have to buy cambers or shocks that can handle the drop because the factory ones most likely cant. thats where most people get into trouble, they buy a 200 dollar set of springs and think thats all they need and after awhile it wears down on your shocks because they cant handle the drop. so thats why i recommended the hfp kit because it comes with everything you need at a reasonable price. as for the warranty, im pretty sure that if you put on aftermarket shocks it voids your warranty, but someone please correct me if im wrong.

[CanyonDriver]

lowering springs do wear your shocks faster because it shortens your suspensions travel range. if your careful about driving on rough roads they can last close to as long as they would with stock springs. over lowering a car does make handling worse than stock because it compromises the suspension geometry. spring rates and the rebound rates on the dampers are the main factors in suspension improvements. Go with HFP. I've had it 4 1/2 months now and it was the best modification I have done to my car.

[1stk20z3]

all suspensions will wear out over time stock or aftermarket.

[H0llyw00d_fa5]

its only gonna wear ur shocks i dont get why everyone keeps thinking it ruins your car.. how could lowering ur car ruin it... just ur shocks just replace them with koni's or something and ur fine. just dont drive your car like its stock height that could scrape stuff but i mean cmon we have all been lowering our cars for millions of years its ok to lower just do it right.

[mattsbobo]

I've been going on Skunk 2 springs for over 25,000 miles with no trouble whatsoever.

Like CanyonDriver said though, I'm careful on cruddy road surfaces though.

[Bertelicious]

Originally Posted by Endo07si

Hey I really want to lower my car probably with the Tein S-Tech Springs, but I've been told recently that springs will eventually kill your shocks and some ohter stuff and that it somewhat makes your handling worse(I don't get that cause doesn't it stiffen your ride)? anyways I've seen some pics and it makes the car a lot better but my questions is since I want them really soon, are they a good investement if their eventually gona mess something up before I sell the car? In that case I might as well wait and save up to buy Coilivers (Tein Type Basic)... Also anyone have any before and after pics? Gladly apperciate it

First off, dont believe what your friends tell you!!

Yeah, over time, "lowering springs" on stock struts/shocks will wear the struts/shocks out slightly faster over time. It is not as bad as some make it out to be. As far as the other issues with suspension modification, lowering will add more stress to other suspension parts but there are plenty of people out there who have easily gone 100K+ miles on lowered suspensions with stock parts. It is not that big of a deal and anyone who says otherwise is not fully informed. These companies spend 10's if not 100's of thousands of $$$ on R&D to ensure their parts work well with each vehicle. They are not going to put a part out there that is going to damage your vehicle because they want as many people as possible to purchase their items. Make sense??

Bottom line is, when modifying, you must be prepared for something to happen and have a plan for fixing it. But honestly, I wouldnt worry about springs. just have them installed properly and get your wheels aligned.

[Endo07si]

Originally Posted by Bertelicious

First off, dont believe what your friends tell you!!

Yeah, over time, "lowering springs" on stock struts/shocks will wear the struts/shocks out slightly faster over time. It is not as bad as some make it out to be. As far as the other issues with suspension modification, lowering will add more stress to other suspension parts but there are plenty of people out there who have easily gone 100K+ miles on lowered suspensions with stock parts. It is not that big of a deal and anyone who says otherwise is not fully informed. These companies spend 10's if not 100's of thousands of $$$ on R&D to ensure their parts work well with each vehicle. They are not going to put a part out there that is going to damage your vehicle because they want as many people as possible to purchase their items. Make sense??

Bottom line is, when modifying, you must be prepared for something to happen and have a plan for fixing it. But honestly, I wouldnt worry about springs. just have them installed properly and get your wheels aligned.

wow man thnx alot for all the info...ya i think your right im either worrying too much or Im just too afraid of what can happen opposed to what actually will happen if Im a good driver. Springs are cheap so I might do that but see I also don't think Ill hav emy car once it goes over 50k miles so ill be fine right? its the next guy that will have to worry! lol anyways how can u eventually telll ur shocks are going bad? and why do I need my wheels aligned? thanks alot man

[Endo07si]

Originally Posted by CanyonDriver

lowering springs do wear your shocks faster because it shortens your suspensions travel range. if your careful about driving on rough roads they can last close to as long as they would with stock springs. over lowering a car does make handling worse than stock because it compromises the suspension geometry. spring rates and the rebound rates on the dampers are the main factors in suspension improvements. Go with HFP. I've had it 4 1/2 months now and it was the best modification I have done to my car.

well this HFP lowering kit...does it tighten up your suspension as much as regular springs? cause it sounds like this is a set of new coilovers from Honda..see I want the extra lowering you get from the springs but I had no idea they void warranty...

[friedk]

All they do is void your shock/spring warranty. You still have the warranty on everything else. You're replacing that anyway so why worry?

Springs don't really go bad. The only thing that is hurt by springs is your shocks. They'll go out faster. Your car will just slowly get bouncier. It's nothing really to freak out about like I said in your other thread.

[Endo07si]

Originally Posted by friedk

All they do is void your shock/spring warranty. You still have the warranty on everything else. You're replacing that anyway so why worry?

Springs don't really go bad. The only thing that is hurt by springs is your shocks. They'll go out faster. Your car will just slowly get bouncier. It's nothing really to freak out about like I said in your other thread.

cool...wait replacing what?

[20strong]

I ran springs for 30,000+ miles with no failure of suspension components.

[Endo07si]

Originally Posted by 20strong

I ran springs for 30,000+ miles with no failure of suspension components.

o wow really? cause im wondering if i get it and drive say maximum a total of 40-50k miles and no problems so far...the next guy i sell it to will have to worry about that right? lol mean i know

[CanyonDriver]

Originally Posted by Endo07si

well this HFP lowering kit...does it tighten up your suspension as much as regular springs? cause it sounds like this is a set of new coilovers from Honda..see I want the extra lowering you get from the springs but I had no idea they void warranty...

HFP springs have firmer rates than most other springs, and they have thicker coils which makes them stronger. They are also the only springs that have a damper valved for them (besides full coil overs). So to answer your question yes it does tighten up the suspension somewhat dramatically. If you are set on lowering more than .8 inches then wait until after market shocks besides Tokiko's (OEM replacements) are available and matte up a lowering spring with them. Also HFP is only covered under warranty if Honda installs it for a billion dollars.

[20strong]

Look, most people cant really tell when thier struts and shocks are bad. Struts dont last forever, they start to fatigue. The owner usally doesnt notice the change though.

[Endo07si]

Originally Posted by 20strong

Look, most people cant really tell when thier struts and shocks are bad. Struts dont last forever, they start to fatigue. The owner usally doesnt notice the change though.

true i guess i am worrying too much and ill get the Tein S-Techs