Skunk2 Pro-S Coilovers on a NHBP FA5 ***Pics inside***

[Sirbelch]

Ok I'll drop the rotting because its starting to grow stuff.

You are jumping to conlusions like a stereotypical woman . I did say all the coilovers on the market are junk (even though they are, until Redshift comes out with theirs)? I'm just saying that the car is too low and no coilover can make up for bad suspension geometry (piston travel can be compensated for with different valving and a large shaft which no OTS coilover has for our cars). Anything past 1.5in is not good for our car's suspension geometry (really anything past stock is not ideal but shit really hits the fan after 1.5 in). The OP's car is way beyond that point. He has compromised both suspenison geometry and piston travel by over lowering your car. He has gained looks and nothing more.

[BTRobertson]

Originally Posted by Sirbelch

Ok I'll drop the rotting because its starting to grow stuff.

No worries.

Originally Posted by Sirbelch

You are jumping to conlusions like a stereotypical woman . I did say all the coilovers on the market are junk (even though they are, until Redshift comes out with theirs)?

Okay, you did say...no problem.

Originally Posted by Sirbelch

I'm just saying that the car is too low and no coilover can make up for bad suspension geometry (piston travel can be compensated for with different valving and a large shaft which no OTS coilover has for our cars). Anything past 1.5in is not good for our car's suspension geometry (really anything past stock is not ideal but shit really hits the fan after 1.5 in). The OP's car is way beyond that point. He has compromised both suspenison geometry and piston travel by over lowering your car. He has gained looks and nothing more.

He did say that he doesn't drive with the car like that, I believe. He lowers it for show/photo shoots, then raises it back up when driving. I'll let this rest now, but it'll be interesting to see what RedShift does. Nice banter...grumpy.

[Sirbelch]

Ok, when I say suspension geometry, I'm referring to things like roll center, cg, camber curves, scrub radius, the Dave poing. Nothing in the car is physically changing shape. The imaginary triangles that all these point make changes the way the car handles. Not grumpy, just trying to defend my point.

[BTRobertson]

Your original point was very attacking in nature, claiming pure superficiality instead of posing intelligent questions about physics and geometry like you are now. Kinda puts everyone on the defensive when the base statement is nothing but a sigh and an insult. Just sayin'. Nice points, though...I am researching all that stuff as we speak so I'm informed.

There are tons of other points about suspensions as well, like anti-dive, anti-squat, instant center, roll center height, air resistance, HFS (high frequency shock), etc. All of this probably plays a vital role in how suspensions are designed for any car.

I would like to see some vendors come in here and defend the claim that most/all currently offered pistons can't handle a drop at or above 1.5". Be interesting to see if/how they defend that statement. I think we all would like to know.

[BTRobertson]

Wow...must read...some of it applies to off-road vehicles, but a lot of the theory and calculations are universal for suspension application. The guy's a great writer and communicator, too.

Pirate4x4.com - The largest off roading website in the world.

[K20Redline]

Originally Posted by Sirbelch

Ok I'll drop the rotting because its starting to grow stuff.

You are jumping to conlusions like a stereotypical woman . I did say all the coilovers on the market are junk (even though they are, until Redshift comes out with theirs)? I'm just saying that the car is too low and no coilover can make up for bad suspension geometry (piston travel can be compensated for with different valving and a large shaft which no OTS coilover has for our cars). Anything past 1.5in is not good for our car's suspension geometry (really anything past stock is not ideal but shit really hits the fan after 1.5 in). The OP's car is way beyond that point. He has compromised both suspenison geometry and piston travel by over lowering your car. He has gained looks and nothing more.

Originally Posted by BTRobertson

No worries.



Okay, you did say...no problem.



He did say that he doesn't drive with the car like that, I believe. He lowers it for show/photo shoots, then raises it back up when driving. I'll let this rest now, but it'll be interesting to see what RedShift does. Nice banter...grumpy.

Originally Posted by Sirbelch

Ok, when I say suspension geometry, I'm referring to things like roll center, cg, camber curves, scrub radius, the Dave poing. Nothing in the car is physically changing shape. The imaginary triangles that all these point make changes the way the car handles. Not grumpy, just trying to defend my point.

All I know is I read SirBelches posts Im running Pro-Cs and he told me about the drop and how it would push and he was absolutely right i have my car at two finger gap and it still barely pushes but Im not willing to go any higher so Belch thanks for the comment I have to admit Im impressed and I still don't have had an alignment done and I am only at 2 clicks front and 6clicks rear!

ps. it was worse then stock that low!!!

[boostedLSb18]

Alright guys/gals,

I made this post since people where asking about the pics/install and everything else. I didn't nor intended this to be about the ride height and how it compromises ride quality or the ability to make turns. I never did mention that everyone should have their car as low as this and drive it, nor did I mention that they should purchase this set just for the intention of slamming the car. If they were to look into purchasing a coilover set up I would ask them multiple questions so I can get an idea of what their intentions are and then based on their answers I would recommend a product that will suit their needs and they will be satisfied with their purchase.

Everything that Belch referred to is probably correct and how the car wasn't intended to sit as low, but on the other hand I didn't lower the car this low to be daily driven if driven that low. It's all for show, when I want to make the car corner on rails then I'll raise the car back up but still about 1.5"-1.75" lower than stock.

I believe it could have been worded differently and still have gotten the point across. Remember we are here with the intention on learning and not here to say who's right and who's wrong. Everyone here will have their own version of what's right and what's wrong.

So, back to the main purpose of my thread:

If anyone has any questions about the product it self, please address them here, and I will answer them to the best to my knowledge if I don't know the answer I will find out and then let you know.

Thank you have a great day.

[BTRobertson]

Originally Posted by boostedLSb18

Alright guys/gals,

I made this post since people where asking about the pics/install and everything else. I didn't nor intended this to be about the ride height and how it compromises ride quality or the ability to make turns. I never did mention that everyone should have their car as low as this and drive it, nor did I mention that they should purchase this set just for the intention of slamming the car. If they were to look into purchasing a coilover set up I would ask them multiple questions so I can get an idea of what their intentions are and then based on their answers I would recommend a product that will suit their needs and they will be satisfied with their purchase.

Everything that Belch referred to is probably correct and how the car wasn't intended to sit as low, but on the other hand I didn't lower the car this low to be daily driven if driven that low. It's all for show, when I want to make the car corner on rails then I'll raise the car back up but still about 1.5"-1.75" lower than stock.

I believe it could have been worded differently and still have gotten the point across. Remember we are here with the intention on learning and not here to say who's right and who's wrong. Everyone here will have their own version of what's right and what's wrong.

So, back to the main purpose of my thread:

If anyone has any questions about the product it self, please address them here, and I will answer them to the best to my knowledge if I don't know the answer I will find out and then let you know.

Thank you have a great day.

Well said. I wish I didn't get sucked into the conversation I had, but oh well. I think the product is great, I think it will be a purchase of mine for sure, I think Skunk2 is a great company, and I think my handling characteristics will be 100% better with a conservative ride height (which is what I would've done in the first place). Great posts boosted.

[nighthawkblacksi07]

so hows the ride on the pros s

[s0opa_Si]

Originally Posted by boostedLSb18

Texas, DFW area

im in the dfw area as well, i want to check your ride out sometime!

[boostedLSb18]

Originally Posted by nighthawkblacksi07

so hows the ride on the pros s

It's a little stiffer than stock, but very tolerable. I enjoy the ride.

[sctuned.com]

Originally Posted by boostedLSb18

It's a little stiffer than stock, but very tolerable. I enjoy the ride.

x2.. It isn't as aggressive as those older kits.

[FastTimesAtFGHigh]

are the springs progressive on these coils? like, would the ride height be obviously better at 1" drop versus 1.5"?

[boostedLSb18]

Originally Posted by FastTimesAtFGHigh

are the springs progressive on these coils? like, would the ride height be obviously better at 1" drop versus 1.5"?

They are linear springs.

[deuce0880]

i'm having a big problem with my rear shocks and that bushing deal. i dont wanna drive it cause i dont wanna ruin anything!!! is it safe to drive on??

[jrotax101]

you need to reuse the bushes/washer/nut from your oem rear struts..

[deuce0880]

i did but its still not tight...

[deuce0880]

in the picture below it looks as if the adjuster is upside down. i talked to skunk2 and they said the adjuster should be on the bottom and the spring on top of that. correct me if i'm wrong please! i really irritated and tired right now but thanks for your help!!

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[boostedLSb18]

Originally Posted by deuce0880

in the picture below it looks as if the adjuster is upside down. i talked to skunk2 and they said the adjuster should be on the bottom and the spring on top of that. correct me if i'm wrong please! i really irritated and tired right now but thanks for your help!!

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The picture has the suspension installed correctly. do you have a pic of your set up so I can see what is wrong?

Thanks.

[FastTimesAtFGHigh]

Why isn't a simple thing like instructions included with these anyhow?