sway bars....?

cambodianricer · 03-25-2008, 10:25 PM

are they really worth it?

i want to get a progressive rear sway bar, is there anything else that I should get at the same time?? such as the front sway bar? And how much do they usually go for?

**truflip** · 03-25-2008, 10:29 PM

Yes they are worth it.
Do a search.

I have the Progress rear sway bar.

CanyonDriver · 03-25-2008, 10:30 PM

there are no front sways for our cars. The progress (not progressive) rear bar is an excellent upgrade. It reduces tons of under steer, and made me a much more confident driver. If you have an Si you can swap out for the smaller Ex or Lx front sway bar which will help even more.

SWRT · 03-25-2008, 10:43 PM

OE Front Sways:
4DR DX, LX, EX: 24.2mm
2DR DX, LX, EX: 25.4mm
4DR Si: 27mm
2DR Si: 28mm

OE Rear Sways:
Non-Si: 10 or 11mm, not much difference really, mixed between 2DR and 4DR models as of 2008
Si: 17mm

Mix and match to get what you want. You most definitely will need a larger rear sway. TypeR is 22mm as a reference.

You 'can' go smaller in the front if you have an Si, but I wouldn't recommend going lower than 27mm. Anything less will numb your turn-in.

-SWRT

cambodianricer · 03-25-2008, 10:48 PM

how much is the type r?

and how much is the progess?

laughoutlloyd8 · 03-25-2008, 11:27 PM

i just put on my rear progress sway like 30 min ago, and man are they great!! You will definitely feel a difference in turning. I'm loving the right turns especially!!!

cambodianricer · 03-25-2008, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laughoutlloyd8

i just put on my rear progress sway like 30 min ago, and man are they great!! You will definitely feel a difference in turning. I'm loving the right turns especially!!!

how much did you pay for yours?

CanyonDriver · 03-25-2008, 11:58 PM

CorSport Online Store: Honda - 06+ Civic - 62.1009

here it is for $150 shipped which is about the best deal you'll find for a new one

laughoutlloyd8 · 03-26-2008, 12:01 AM

I've got them used from a member down in san diego i got it as a package deal cuz i got shifterbushing, progress sway and coupe visors for $140. Matt is selling his for 100obo, you should definitely grab his!!

cambodianricer · 03-26-2008, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laughoutlloyd8

I've got them used from a member down in san diego i got it as a package deal cuz i got shifterbushing, progress sway and coupe visors for $140. Matt is selling his for 100obo, you should definitely grab his!!

yea. i know. i was just debating on if it's worth it. basicly my car is completely stock. its either springs or sway bar. but i dont wanna lower my car yet.

fg2!kid · 03-26-2008, 01:43 AM

i put the LX front bar on my si the only thing i dont like about it is that i notice the body rolls more and there is less steering response i have not taken it to the track yet so i cant give you a better review

just a FYI

LucasBlack · 03-26-2008, 04:19 AM

reducing the front swaybar size will reduce that snappy turn-in feel, but the aim is to be able to increase the front to rear size stagger, and to assist in the front end's traction through the turn.

CanyonDriver · 03-26-2008, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LucasBlack

reducing the front swaybar size will reduce that snappy turn-in feel, but the aim is to be able to increase the front to rear size stagger, and to assist in the front end's traction through the turn.

the problem is a bigger front sway will help turn in but after the initial turn in understeer increases, so I guess its a matter of finding a good balance. If I had the proper machinery I'd experiment making a bunch of different sized sway bars and take 2 or 3 to the track per track day and see which one gave me the best laps.

Highrev1 · 03-26-2008, 12:40 PM

There is a fast way around a turn...Slow in Fast out. With that reasoning, smaller front bar wins.

Or even more ideally, no front bar and tune with springs and dampers. Thats a track setup cause your wheels rates would increase too much then for a street car.

LucasBlack · 03-26-2008, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanyonDriver

the problem is a bigger front sway will help turn in but after the initial turn in understeer increases, so I guess its a matter of finding a good balance. If I had the proper machinery I'd experiment making a bunch of different sized sway bars and take 2 or 3 to the track per track day and see which one gave me the best laps.

but then again, slightly higher spring rates in the front can help that responsiveness on turn-in as well. we must remember never to single out a single suspension attribute as the sole contributor to some aspect of the car's handling characteristics.

...and as HighRev has stated, the point is to be able to come out of a turn as quickly as possible -- and compensating for a slightly reduced turn-in response is not all that difficult or undesirable if you are then able to both turn tighter and carry more speed.

fg2!kid · 03-27-2008, 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Highrev1

There is a fast way around a turn...Slow in Fast out. With that reasoning, smaller front bar wins.

Or even more ideally, no front bar and tune with springs and dampers. Thats a track setup cause your wheels rates would increase too much then for a street car.

well i have a track day coming up in May for my 21st Bday see how my LX front bar works out for me iam going to do the first few laps with the LX the change it over to the stock si bar and compare times

Jardiniboy · 03-27-2008, 05:52 AM

For the price of the rear sway bar, I'd say get it. It's really a nice mod to add to a FWD car.

dnbsi · 03-27-2008, 05:37 PM

does using the progress rear sway garuntee that the brackets will break? is it only a matter of time if you don't reinforce them?

CanyonDriver · 03-27-2008, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dnbsi

does using the progress rear sway garuntee that the brackets will break? is it only a matter of time if you don't reinforce them?

i've had my progress bar since december and i drive it hard. no problems at all. the person who started the thread about the problem even admits that it happened during harsh weather and believes it could have been chunks of ice and road salts that obliterated it.

Fly Rye · 03-27-2008, 06:50 PM

i bought one, but i think it is banging on my after market exhaust. i have a skunk2 700 catback and they are almost touching and then when i turn hard around corners there is a noise. i am not sure it i messed something up under the car by ripping around corners and also yanking on the e-brake, or if it's really just the exhaust hitting on the bar. i am going to find out by tomorrow once i can jack up the car again and put something in between them and make a test run of it.

03-25-2008, 10:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
cambodianricer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Rside Posts: 4,923 Jason iTrader: 6 / 100%	sway bars....? are they really worth it? i want to get a progressive rear sway bar, is there anything else that I should get at the same time?? such as the front sway bar? And how much do they usually go for?

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truflip Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON Age: 22 Posts: 9,132 iTrader: 11 / 100%	Yes they are worth it. Do a search. I have the Progress rear sway bar. __________________

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CanyonDriver Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: West LA Age: 20 Posts: 2,035 iTrader: 0 / 0%	there are no front sways for our cars. The progress (not progressive) rear bar is an excellent upgrade. It reduces tons of under steer, and made me a much more confident driver. If you have an Si you can swap out for the smaller Ex or Lx front sway bar which will help even more.

03-25-2008, 10:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
SWRT Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Age: 42 Posts: 144 iTrader: 0 / 0%	OE Front Sways: 4DR DX, LX, EX: 24.2mm 2DR DX, LX, EX: 25.4mm 4DR Si: 27mm 2DR Si: 28mm OE Rear Sways: Non-Si: 10 or 11mm, not much difference really, mixed between 2DR and 4DR models as of 2008 Si: 17mm Mix and match to get what you want. You most definitely will need a larger rear sway. TypeR is 22mm as a reference. You 'can' go smaller in the front if you have an Si, but I wouldn't recommend going lower than 27mm. Anything less will numb your turn-in. -SWRT

03-25-2008, 10:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
cambodianricer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Rside Posts: 4,923 Jason iTrader: 6 / 100%	how much is the type r? and how much is the progess?

03-25-2008, 11:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
laughoutlloyd8 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,485 iTrader: 4 / 100%	i just put on my rear progress sway like 30 min ago, and man are they great!! You will definitely feel a difference in turning. I'm loving the right turns especially!!!

03-25-2008, 11:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
CanyonDriver Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: West LA Age: 20 Posts: 2,035 iTrader: 0 / 0%	CorSport Online Store: Honda - 06+ Civic - 62.1009 here it is for $150 shipped which is about the best deal you'll find for a new one

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laughoutlloyd8 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,485 iTrader: 4 / 100%	I've got them used from a member down in san diego i got it as a package deal cuz i got shifterbushing, progress sway and coupe visors for $140. Matt is selling his for 100obo, you should definitely grab his!!

03-26-2008, 01:43 AM	#11 (permalink)
fg2!kid Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: montclair Cali Age: 21 Posts: 1,222 エリク eric iTrader: 0 / 0%	i put the LX front bar on my si the only thing i dont like about it is that i notice the body rolls more and there is less steering response i have not taken it to the track yet so i cant give you a better review just a FYI

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LucasBlack Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: O'ahu, Hawai'i Posts: 645 iTrader: 0 / 0%	reducing the front swaybar size will reduce that snappy turn-in feel, but the aim is to be able to increase the front to rear size stagger, and to assist in the front end's traction through the turn.

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Highrev1 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PM me NothernNJ Installs/Details Posts: 3,801 iTrader: 1 / 100%	There is a fast way around a turn...Slow in Fast out. With that reasoning, smaller front bar wins. Or even more ideally, no front bar and tune with springs and dampers. Thats a track setup cause your wheels rates would increase too much then for a street car.

03-27-2008, 05:52 AM	#17 (permalink)
Jardiniboy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Waipahu, Hawaii Posts: 3,831 Jasten iTrader: 2 / 100%	For the price of the rear sway bar, I'd say get it. It's really a nice mod to add to a FWD car.

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dnbsi Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 963 iTrader: 0 / 0%	does using the progress rear sway garuntee that the brackets will break? is it only a matter of time if you don't reinforce them?

03-27-2008, 06:50 PM	#20 (permalink)
Fly Rye Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The problem Prov. RI Age: 22 Posts: 819 wut'd you girl say? iTrader: 8 / 100%	i bought one, but i think it is banging on my after market exhaust. i have a skunk2 700 catback and they are almost touching and then when i turn hard around corners there is a noise. i am not sure it i messed something up under the car by ripping around corners and also yanking on the e-brake, or if it's really just the exhaust hitting on the bar. i am going to find out by tomorrow once i can jack up the car again and put something in between them and make a test run of it.