Camber issues with HFP Suspension

ameuba10 · 03-19-2008, 10:24 PM

does anyone with the hfp suspension have camber problems? i have some terrible tire wear. i bought some SPC camber bolts earlier and had them put on today. that fixed the front camber perfectly. now my mechanic (he's a good friend and he too has a civic, so i trust him) says that i need adjustable rear camber arms. has anyone else had any issues with camber with their hfp suspension?

***Zeuceone*** · 03-19-2008, 10:31 PM

Did you get an aligment after instal?

ameuba10 · 03-19-2008, 10:38 PM

well yea

TeamBadger · 03-20-2008, 01:11 PM

The camber gained from teh HFP suspension is negligable in the front, I would use the camber bolts to actually get a little more. So if you had issues with tire wear it is definitely you toe.

CanyonDriver · 03-21-2008, 03:56 AM

my only alignment issues with HFP involve hitting potholes and ******* it up

4ADAM12 · 04-10-2008, 10:04 PM

With no intension of hi-jacking, my spc rear arms won't adjust the same on both sides. both are mounted the same but I had to set them both to 3.0 degrees cause thats as low as the pass side would go, did you run into any problems such as this?

CanyonDriver · 04-11-2008, 03:57 AM

^ -3 degrees

why are you running that much negative camber?

friedk · 04-11-2008, 04:01 AM

Are you sure those are installed right............I can't see any reason to run more than -2 degrees and thats assuming you have like -3+ in the front.

4ADAM12 · 04-11-2008, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 4ADAM12

With no intension of hi-jacking, my spc rear arms won't adjust the same on both sides. both are mounted the same but I had to set them both to 3.0 degrees cause thats as low as the pass side would go, did you run into any problems such as this?

-3 is not what I wanted, but both sides are the same now until I either figure out why the pass side will not adjust with less neg. camber or, I put the stock arms back on ( not what I want to do ). needless to say, I'm not happy at the moment.

civicracer32 · 04-11-2008, 06:30 AM

This is why the HFP susp, or any susp is off my mod list for the moment. Going the I/H/E reflash path first.

ameuba10 · 04-11-2008, 10:45 AM

found out that the camber problems have nothing to do with the hfp suspension. supposedly honda made some bad rear camber arms and they are fixing them and reimbursing for bad tire wear with some new meat for my shoes!

***VTECnical*** · 04-11-2008, 10:48 AM

Really? I am having Honda install my HFP suspension next week. I hope it works...

ameuba10 · 04-11-2008, 10:53 AM

yea it shouldnt have anything to do with the hfp suspension, just some civics were built with bad rear camber arms that they are trying to fix. in a couple weeks ima get the new ones put on and some new tires

civicracer32 · 04-12-2008, 02:42 PM

Alright, I had known about the TSB for the rear camber and the tire wear related to it. Wan't HFP susp, but want to do it right with a dial in of the camber. I just hate dealing with the alignment shops with aftermarket camber kits. They just don't get it! Not the few I've been to at least =(

***VTECnical*** · 04-12-2008, 02:49 PM

Maybe I should just sell the HFP kit. I did not want to have to but a front and rear camber kit but if I do then I am going with another setup...

taffysi · 04-12-2008, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VTECnical

Maybe I should just sell the HFP kit. I did not want to have to but a front and rear camber kit but if I do then I am going with another setup...

It shouldn't be a problem. No camber kit is needed for the HFP kit. The camber degrees should still be within' factory specs when the HFP kit is installed.

***VTECnical*** · 04-12-2008, 03:01 PM

I will try it out.

***shingles*** · 04-14-2008, 10:48 AM

Wht kind of tire wear are you seeing?
You said you got an alignment afterwards, what was the front toe like?
Too much toe in will EAT your tires up. Neg camber does not wear tires as much as most people think, it's usually the toe that's doing it.

f14fighter · 04-24-2008, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ameuba10

found out that the camber problems have nothing to do with the hfp suspension. supposedly honda made some bad rear camber arms and they are fixing them and reimbursing for bad tire wear with some new meat for my shoes!

By all means, please give me more information on this or point me in the right direction. I am now almost through my second set of rubber due to the nasty stock rear camber issue on my 07 SI sedan. Thanks

***SiliconX*** · 04-24-2008, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4ADAM12

-3 is not what I wanted, but both sides are the same now until I either figure out why the pass side will not adjust with less neg. camber or, I put the stock arms back on ( not what I want to do ). needless to say, I'm not happy at the moment.

Not sure how old your SPC kit is, but apparently some of them had incorrect instructions and actually told you to mount the brackets backwards.

The incorrect ones said to mount the angled side of the bracket towards the center of the vehicle, when in fact, the angled part is supposed to mount towards the wheel.

I installed the SPC rear camber arms a couple days ago and had it aligned and adjusted yesterday and everything worked great.

03-19-2008, 10:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
ameuba10 Senior Member Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: 919 Posts: 2,773 iTrader: 5 / 100%	Camber issues with HFP Suspension does anyone with the hfp suspension have camber problems? i have some terrible tire wear. i bought some SPC camber bolts earlier and had them put on today. that fixed the front camber perfectly. now my mechanic (he's a good friend and he too has a civic, so i trust him) says that i need adjustable rear camber arms. has anyone else had any issues with camber with their hfp suspension?

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*VTECnical* VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Long Island Posts: 867 Ryan iTrader: 0 / 0%	Really? I am having Honda install my HFP suspension next week. I hope it works... __________________ Best, VTECnical

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03-19-2008, 10:38 PM	#3 (permalink)
ameuba10 Senior Member Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: 919 Posts: 2,773 iTrader: 5 / 100%	well yea

03-20-2008, 01:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
TeamBadger Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Miami, Fl. Posts: 111 iTrader: 1 / 100%	The camber gained from teh HFP suspension is negligable in the front, I would use the camber bolts to actually get a little more. So if you had issues with tire wear it is definitely you toe.

03-21-2008, 03:56 AM	#5 (permalink)
CanyonDriver Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: West LA Age: 20 Posts: 2,035 iTrader: 0 / 0%	my only alignment issues with HFP involve hitting potholes and ******* it up

04-10-2008, 10:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
4ADAM12 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 45 iTrader: 0 / 0%	With no intension of hi-jacking, my spc rear arms won't adjust the same on both sides. both are mounted the same but I had to set them both to 3.0 degrees cause thats as low as the pass side would go, did you run into any problems such as this?

04-11-2008, 03:57 AM	#7 (permalink)
CanyonDriver Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: West LA Age: 20 Posts: 2,035 iTrader: 0 / 0%	^ -3 degrees why are you running that much negative camber?

04-11-2008, 04:01 AM	#8 (permalink)
friedk Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,615 iTrader: 2 / 100%	Are you sure those are installed right............I can't see any reason to run more than -2 degrees and thats assuming you have like -3+ in the front.

04-11-2008, 06:30 AM	#10 (permalink)
civicracer32 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: SAN DIEGO Posts: 537 iTrader: 1 / 100%	This is why the HFP susp, or any susp is off my mod list for the moment. Going the I/H/E reflash path first.

04-11-2008, 10:45 AM	#11 (permalink)
ameuba10 Senior Member Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: 919 Posts: 2,773 iTrader: 5 / 100%	found out that the camber problems have nothing to do with the hfp suspension. supposedly honda made some bad rear camber arms and they are fixing them and reimbursing for bad tire wear with some new meat for my shoes!

04-11-2008, 10:53 AM	#13 (permalink)
ameuba10 Senior Member Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: 919 Posts: 2,773 iTrader: 5 / 100%	yea it shouldnt have anything to do with the hfp suspension, just some civics were built with bad rear camber arms that they are trying to fix. in a couple weeks ima get the new ones put on and some new tires

04-12-2008, 02:42 PM	#14 (permalink)
civicracer32 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: SAN DIEGO Posts: 537 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Alright, I had known about the TSB for the rear camber and the tire wear related to it. Wan't HFP susp, but want to do it right with a dial in of the camber. I just hate dealing with the alignment shops with aftermarket camber kits. They just don't get it! Not the few I've been to at least =(

04-12-2008, 02:49 PM	#15 (permalink)
*VTECnical* VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Long Island Posts: 867 Ryan iTrader: 0 / 0%	Maybe I should just sell the HFP kit. I did not want to have to but a front and rear camber kit but if I do then I am going with another setup...

04-12-2008, 03:01 PM	#17 (permalink)
*VTECnical* VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Long Island Posts: 867 Ryan iTrader: 0 / 0%	I will try it out.

04-14-2008, 10:48 AM	#18 (permalink)
*shingles* VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 102 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Wht kind of tire wear are you seeing? You said you got an alignment afterwards, what was the front toe like? Too much toe in will EAT your tires up. Neg camber does not wear tires as much as most people think, it's usually the toe that's doing it.