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WTB a used stock suspension set for '06 LX sedan

I really wanted to do the HFP install with the Skunk2 camber kit, but it'll be too expensive at this time. So I've decided to ask for a low mileage (under 10,000 miles) factory set from someone who has done a suspension upgrade.

The set must be from an LX sedan (the dealership says that the shocks/struts are not interchangeable between trims or sedan/coupe). Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe the year matters (as long as it's 8th gen). Just pm or post an offer, and I'll get in touch with you.

parts wanted:
front struts and springs (preferably assembled)
rear shocks (springs not needed -- will hopefully save on shipping cost)

I may also be in the market for a used factory front sway bar, mine may have been damaged from a couple of road debris incidents, I'll know once I've replaced the front struts.
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i got a set of si springs and struts for 150 shipped...
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(the dealership says that the shocks/struts are not interchangeable between trims or sedan/coupe). Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe the year matters (as long as it's 8th gen). Just pm or post an offer, and I'll get in touch with you.
They are lying. They are probably just saying that for possible warranty issues due to the fact that the LX and EX are assigned specific part numbers relative to the Si, for example.

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08 Si suspension on a 07 Ex ?

The vehicle weights are off which would greatly affect driveability, plus the Si has different spindles and break assemblies on both the front and rear so there's a good posibility they won't line up properly.

I drive this car too much to take the chance. So please, NO Si sets. I just want to replace my LX set with another factory LX set. I still want to eventually do the HFP swap, but for right now I just want to be able to drive my car without the issues I'm having with the worn out suspension.
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08 Si suspension on a 07 Ex ?

The vehicle weights are off which would greatly affect driveability, plus the Si has different spindles and break assemblies on both the front and rear so there's a good posibility they won't line up properly.

I drive this car too much to take the chance. So please, NO Si sets. I just want to replace my LX set with another factory LX set. I still want to eventually do the HFP swap, but for right now I just want to be able to drive my car without the issues I'm having with the worn out suspension.
Believe what you will, but if you are referring to this post in particular...

The Si is heavier and the springs will reflect that. At the same time the stock Si suspension is a PACKAGE. The components were designed to work together, especially the spring/damper combo. The EX or LX dampers will not have stiff enough damping to control the extra force created by the stiffer springs of the Si, especially in rebound. This would be felt as a "loose" or severely underdamped condition in almost all suspension modes. Roll is probably the one you will be the most sensitive you when talking about handling in the twisties. The car will feel like it kind of rolls back and forth just a little bit when you first point the car in, its a very unsettling feeling as the car never seems to "plant" in the corner.

Add in the fact that the Si is heavier and you have effectively increased the natural frequency (which can be thought of as how fast something would vibrate if it didn't have any friction) of your EX above that of the Si. Essentially, your car is now "stiffer" than the Si. With a slightly different weight distribution you would probably notice more "pogo-ing" of the suspension over washboards or expansion joints.

Without also swapping over the anti-roll bars of the Si, you will severely alter the roll moment distribution of the vehicle and therefore all aspects of its handling from intitial turn-in, to mid-corner, to exit.

To put it simply you car will probably feel "tight" but the ride will be harsh and bouncy, and handling will be compromised. I wouldn't be surprised if it would end up less balanced than a stock EX.

just my .02


...Then I'd have to say the kid thinks the Si is setup and designed like an F1 car relative to the LX or EX. In reality the Si isn't that much stiffer, hell, its spring rates are only 30lb./inch stiffer per corner! As for shock valving, the Si front strut is only 10% stiffer in low speed compression and 20% in low speed rebound (if memory serves), and the low speed values affect handling, not ride. If that's enough to throw off the natural frequency and balance of a street car then, my God, I'm buying stock in Honda because they would have been the only company, maybe next to Lotus, to build an honest to God race car from the factory for every car they make.

Now that's unrealistic of course because most people don't account for the 99.9 percent of drivers out there who will never push a car above 5/10 of its handling limits. They would not do such a thing, the insurance lawyers would not allow such a thing.

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