Question for Highrev and other suspension gurus

[dualdiagnosis]

I could have pm'd you about this particular coilover from Buddy Club, but I am sure there are other members that might have the same questions. For a decent "street" setup, does this particular setup look decent?

CorSport Online Store: Honda - 06+ Civic - BC02-NP06FG

I am not sure if there are any shock dynos so it is hard to tell what exactly this coilover will do. Apparently, vehicle ride height is adjusted independently of spring pre-load.

Any input or comments are greatly appreciated!!

[jrotax101]

quoted from Sirbelch when i asked the same question:

The shock dyno curves are bad for handling (not enough low speed damping (speed is speed that the piston inside the damper is traveling at)) and bad for ride quality (to much high speed damping). The ones that are adjustable don't adjust the damping rates at a consistant rate i.e. one "click" (setting change) on one corner of the car could be 3 "clicks" on another corner of the car. Also, when you do change the damping rate, it doesn't change shock dyno curve in the low speed area (handling) it changes the curve in the mid to high speed area. So all you are really doing is making the ride rougher not effecting handling.

[Highrev1]

Any Shock dynos? I will be in an RSX with some of these on Tuesday to give you a better point of view, but I have a feeling i know what they are gonna be already

Most are independent of spring load now...WITH that said, You can never increase a springs rate by compressing it..Pre-load

"Think about it for a moment. Springs as we all know are rated in LB/IN (KG/cm) meaning a given spring will compress X"'s per LBS applied to that spring. simple right? so.... Have you altered how much weight is being applied to that spring by altering the height of it? if not then how can the spring compress any more or less at any ride height along the collars adjustment range? Remember, the upper hat is attached to the dampers pistion (which is a moving part), so when you raise or lower the spring perch (not the bottom perch) you end up changing the dampers stroke range rather then compressing the spring(unless you completly top out the damper). IN reality, the only thing you've done by adjusting the lower collar is adjust the shocks stroke range, something that can also be done by shortening the damper."

[friedk]

Originally Posted by Highrev1

Any Shock dynos? I will be in an RSX with some of these on Tuesday to give you a better point of view, but I have a feeling i know what they are gonna be already

Most are independent of spring load now...WITH that said, You can never increase a springs rate by compressing it..Pre-load

"Think about it for a moment. Springs as we all know are rated in LB/IN (KG/cm) meaning a given spring will compress X"'s per LBS applied to that spring. simple right? so.... Have you altered how much weight is being applied to that spring by altering the height of it? if not then how can the spring compress any more or less at any ride height along the collars adjustment range? Remember, the upper hat is attached to the dampers pistion (which is a moving part), so when you raise or lower the spring perch (not the bottom perch) you end up changing the dampers stroke range rather then compressing the spring(unless you completly top out the damper). IN reality, the only thing you've done by adjusting the lower collar is adjust the shocks stroke range, something that can also be done by shortening the damper."

Tell us how that is Greg. From what I've read on ClubRSX the N+ setup is actually decent with the RSD being a little better.

Either way corsport racing their price 100$ didn't make it too tempted to buy those things.

[dualdiagnosis]

Originally Posted by Highrev1

Any Shock dynos? I will be in an RSX with some of these on Tuesday to give you a better point of view, but I have a feeling i know what they are gonna be already

Most are independent of spring load now...WITH that said, You can never increase a springs rate by compressing it..Pre-load

"Think about it for a moment. Springs as we all know are rated in LB/IN (KG/cm) meaning a given spring will compress X"'s per LBS applied to that spring. simple right? so.... Have you altered how much weight is being applied to that spring by altering the height of it? if not then how can the spring compress any more or less at any ride height along the collars adjustment range? Remember, the upper hat is attached to the dampers pistion (which is a moving part), so when you raise or lower the spring perch (not the bottom perch) you end up changing the dampers stroke range rather then compressing the spring(unless you completly top out the damper). IN reality, the only thing you've done by adjusting the lower collar is adjust the shocks stroke range, something that can also be done by shortening the damper."

Basically, I am looking for something decent to lower my car with. My main goal or motivation for lowering is to have it look better. With that said, I don't want worse than stock handling/performance either. I would like to go with a Koni/spring setup if the wait is not too much longer. Also, I like the idea of a HFP setup, but it is not low enough for me.

After your ride on Tuesday, would you please post up here what your feelings are about these? Thank you!

[friedk]

The spring rate is pretty high. They won't be a soft ride by any means.

[Highrev1]

Buddy Club N+ bounce? - Club RSX Message Board

I dunno personally yet but just somthing to consider

[FastTimesAtFGHigh]

Sounds like you and i have the same goal. I want something that gives me the same performance as the HFP but with a slightly lower drop of 1". I believe the HFP gives a drop of 0.75" with slightly better than stock performance and ride quality.

With the Koni coming out, what type of spring should I match that with? or is that too early to recommend since we don't know what the final specs of the Konis will be?

Originally Posted by dualdiagnosis

Basically, I am looking for something decent to lower my car with. My main goal or motivation for lowering is to have it look better. With that said, I don't want worse than stock handling/performance either. I would like to go with a Koni/spring setup if the wait is not too much longer. Also, I like the idea of a HFP setup, but it is not low enough for me.

After your ride on Tuesday, would you please post up here what your feelings are about these? Thank you!

[skandal57]

In for some info as well... im growing impatient with this cars suspension and the long time its taking to get some great stuff out!!!

[Holland]

Please DO NOT ask Greg AKA HighRev1 and more questons... I think his head is getting to big...lol He need to spend his time making stuff for me to buy...lol But I have been in a car with the buddy club coilovers and its not that good.. they need some real shocks... I was scary around buttonwillow.... as a NASA/SCCA instructor I have had some wild rides... but the RSX with buddy club coilovers was a real bad mis match of spring rates and shock valving.. it was all over the place... It would be no fun on the street... Wait for some reviews of the new skunk set up and the red shift set up...

[xrs54]

LOL they only took $20 off!!!

[friedk]

Originally Posted by xrs54

LOL they only took $20 off!!!

Marketing.

It was actually 980$ a few days back.

[Holland]

Originally Posted by friedk

Marketing.

It was actually 980$ a few days back.

send em to the trash csn