Koni/Redshift Coilovers

[jokka]

so these shocks will be built specifically for lowered cars right ?
I'mma lower my car on pro-kit and i want to eventually upgrade to something that will last alot longer than OEM.

[Sirbelch]

Pretty much, yeah but I think the Redshift base suspesion includes springs. Chirs? Greg? is that right?

[jokka]

Originally Posted by Sirbelch

Pretty much, yeah but I think the Redshift base suspesion includes springs. Chirs? Greg? is that right?

o i see....

so the $800 koni listed on the original post = springs + shocks ?

[CivicSi907]

I just need "high adjustable" shocks! So am I right with the yellows?

[CivicSi907]

Originally Posted by CivicSi907

I just need "high adjustable" shocks! So am I right with the yellows?

bump!

[RedShiftChris]

The RedShift/Koni Sports are for lowered cars running higher rate springs. They will work on Stock springs obviously too. We are running the Max Length in the back shock shorter so there is less issue with the rear spring falling out too.

Shock Dyno info available now on our website:
06 Civic Susp Packages

Cheers all,
Chris

[Wierdochild89]

can someone teach me how to read that graph and how do i know if its good or not over stock si setup.

[Sirbelch]

The x axis is speed the y axis is force. The negative values are compression and the positive values are rebound. Compression is less than a stock Si for a better ride and rebound is more than a stock Si for better handling.

Hey Chris, what's up with the last little bit of rebound where the curve becomes progressive?

Also, where's the DA graphs for us DAers? :)

[aki]

Can we see the shock dyno of the Koni's w/ each click, instead of max/min?

Looking at the graphs, it seems like the min setting on both front/rear seem to be a slight progressive curve. On max setting, the front is digressive but the rear is *very* progressive, with what seems to be too much high-speed valving. I'd guess the rears would be skittish on bumps.

[Profoxcg]

so when is late march ? next week?
What would make this setup superior to skun2's Pro-C suspension?

[Sirbelch]

There are no clicks on the konis. Is just a knob that spins.

[BigDog]

Originally Posted by Sirbelch

There are no clicks on the konis. Is just a knob that spins.

...for rebound. For compression, on DA shocks, there are clicks.

Chris / Greg, what, if any, are the differences between the shocks on my car and the ones you are getting ready to put out? I would like to comment on mine but only if we're talking apples to apples.

[Sirbelch]

Originally Posted by aki

Can we see the shock dyno of the Koni's w/ each click, instead of max/min?

Looking at the graphs, it seems like the min setting on both front/rear seem to be a slight progressive curve. On max setting, the front is digressive but the rear is *very* progressive, with what seems to be too much high-speed valving. I'd guess the rears would be skittish on bumps.

Its only progressive during 0.22-0.33 other than that, the curve is digressive.

[flomofo]

I was looking at hfp till this, seems like the perfect DD setup that handles better than most setups that send you out of control on a rough turn in a real corner.

Anything a bit lower like the hfp thats not overly agressive so I don't look like one of those ricers that loose contact with the road when they hit rough patches on real roads.

I think most people would fall into this "needs to look good" category but only looking for about 1 inch to less than 1.5 inches of drop without underperforming in the daily environment like a factory setup would..

[meeks]

subscribed. saving up now!!

[RedShiftChris]

Originally Posted by Sirbelch

The x axis is speed the y axis is force. The negative values are compression and the positive values are rebound. Compression is less than a stock Si for a better ride and rebound is more than a stock Si for better handling.

Hey Chris, what's up with the last little bit of rebound where the curve becomes progressive?

Also, where's the DA graphs for us DAers? :)

Not sure about the last bit of that curve you mention other than it's progressive as you mention. And I do plan to get the DA dynos too, but I don't have them yet.

Chris

[RedShiftChris]

Originally Posted by aki

Can we see the shock dyno of the Koni's w/ each click, instead of max/min?

Looking at the graphs, it seems like the min setting on both front/rear seem to be a slight progressive curve. On max setting, the front is digressive but the rear is *very* progressive, with what seems to be too much high-speed valving. I'd guess the rears would be skittish on bumps.

All I can give you is what Koni provides to me. These are min and max settings of a shock that does not have clicks but rather sweeps from min to max. And generally a shock is skittish with too much bump valving rather than rebound valving... and these certainly don't have too much bump valving.

Chris

[RedShiftChris]

Originally Posted by Profoxcg

so when is late march ? next week?
What would make this setup superior to skun2's Pro-C suspension?

Late march is not going to happen with us just getting our test shocks this week now. We have testing to do before we release anything. I don't know when we'll be done.... probably in a month or so.

Chris

[marc-o-lishuz]

Originally Posted by RedShiftChris

Late march is not going to happen with us just getting our test shocks this week now. We have testing to do before we release anything. I don't know when we'll be done.... probably in a month or so.

Chris

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[RedShiftChris]

Originally Posted by BigDog

...for rebound. For compression, on DA shocks, there are clicks.

Chris / Greg, what, if any, are the differences between the shocks on my car and the ones you are getting ready to put out? I would like to comment on mine but only if we're talking apples to apples.

Curt,
Your shocks are definitely stiffer than these Sport shocks. In fact, yours were built with an unusual amount of rear bump valving to help the car rotate. :)

But do tell us what you think of yours. :)

Chris