FD2 bars fit FG2?

[finallymanual]

Hey guys, i was wondering if the FD2 front strut tower bar and the rear strut tower bars fit the FG2. I was looking at the Js racing website and i find the bars look pretty nice but not sure if they will fit my car.

[finallymanual]

Bump....anyone know?

[skandal57]

i would think so.. cant know for sure though.. shoot them an email

[nevertofast]

yeh do it ! cuz if the rear bar fits im buying it for the COUPE

[finallymanual]

Ok i'll shoot them an email. I hope they know if it will fit cause they do'nt have the FG2 in japan.

[Zeuceone]

The front one should fit. Idk about the rear bar. I never seen it. I wouldn't bother getting them. I wouldn't bother getting them. They do do much if anything for steering improvement.unless you want them for looks.

[nevertofast]

Originally Posted by Zeuceone

The front one should fit. Idk about the rear bar. I never seen it. I wouldn't bother getting them. I wouldn't bother getting them. They do do much if anything for steering improvement.unless you want them for looks.

well sir i would have to dissagree with you there i currently have the front and rear lower tie bars with H brace and the front upper strut brace AND the progess rear sway on my si and NO drop and my car handles like its on rails right now !!!! because of these braces its tight like a tiger !!! imagine with a drop

[finallymanual]

[mattsbobo]

Buy them, try it out, and let us know

[Zeuceone]

looks like the rears might fit.

[nevertofast]

ok i spoke to greg at gt motoring and he said by the end of next month for sure hell know if these bars fit the sedans AND COUPES !!!!

[nevertofast]

i want these NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

[mattsbobo]

Originally Posted by nevertofast

i want these NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

They are pretty hot looking.

[nycclaye]

yea, i'm gonna waitt, but I have the FL/RL/H-brace set up on stock suspension and my car's responding in and out of turns DRASTICALLY IMPROVED so I'd love to add this to my set up

[nevertofast]

Originally Posted by nycclaye

yea, i'm gonna waitt, but I have the FL/RL/H-brace set up on stock suspension and my car's responding in and out of turns DRASTICALLY IMPROVED so I'd love to add this to my set up

yeh i have your same setup accept i also have the front upper brace and rear sway and its even better !!!!!!!!!

[honda_racer07]

CUSCO New Products for Civic FD2-Type R
Check out this link this is where I think they started I found these about 8 month ago. They deffinently look tough and I having a sedan would like for someone to import them.

[Highrev1]

Great post from a suspension guru..

"Not really as you are not altering the cars spring rates or damper rates. I would suspect that those who have felt more understeer after installing one of these braces is simply pushing the car harder then they did before and there for just running in to the inherent understeer the car had prior to the installation.

Regardless, I really have two reasons why I'm not a huge fan of such braces.

First and foremost is that as someone who uses their car for competition, said brace would bump me in to a class that I had no chance in being competitive.

and secondly, the documented minimal increase in performance from such bars. (As documented by D3 designs, the makers of the X and Y brace). I am using the #'s from their site as an example as they are the only ones who have documented actual improvement in a cars performance by lap times... rather then every one else's "It feels so much more solid" quotes in performance.

So, D3 claims that their test car was 1.2 seconds faster with their front brace then it was with out. Great, 1.2 seconds. I would kill to be 1.2 seconds faster on track. And thats the problem... 1.2 seconds per lap means that you are, in a best case scenario, three tenths of a second faster per turn.... Thats .3 seconds on a track with 4 total turns. What is more likely, give D3's location, They probably did their test on the streets of willow course in Southern California. A track that has between 12 and 15 turns depending on course setup. So in reality your looking at an improvement of about .1 to .08 seconds per turn. Thats One tenth to Eight Hundredths of a second faster per turn.

Can you even start and stop a stopwatch in under 1/10th of a second?

After quantifying that, The conclusion I drew was if you are building a track car and are looking for those last few tenths, Sure get the brace as it will help you be faster on track. But if you are building a street car and are expecting to notice the car handling better or cornering faster.... your delusional. As making the car a tenth of a second faster in any particular turn isn't going to be something that you are going to be able to feel.
But hey, if you want to make the car "feel" more stable and stiff, go for it. just don't think that you are substantially faster then you were before the brace, because the data says otherwise."

any one put a strut towerbar on an si?

[honda_racer07]

Originally Posted by Highrev1

Great post from a suspension guru..

"Not really as you are not altering the cars spring rates or damper rates. I would suspect that those who have felt more understeer after installing one of these braces is simply pushing the car harder then they did before and there for just running in to the inherent understeer the car had prior to the installation.

Regardless, I really have two reasons why I'm not a huge fan of such braces.

First and foremost is that as someone who uses their car for competition, said brace would bump me in to a class that I had no chance in being competitive.

and secondly, the documented minimal increase in performance from such bars. (As documented by D3 designs, the makers of the X and Y brace). I am using the #'s from their site as an example as they are the only ones who have documented actual improvement in a cars performance by lap times... rather then every one else's "It feels so much more solid" quotes in performance.

So, D3 claims that their test car was 1.2 seconds faster with their front brace then it was with out. Great, 1.2 seconds. I would kill to be 1.2 seconds faster on track. And thats the problem... 1.2 seconds per lap means that you are, in a best case scenario, three tenths of a second faster per turn.... Thats .3 seconds on a track with 4 total turns. What is more likely, give D3's location, They probably did their test on the streets of willow course in Southern California. A track that has between 12 and 15 turns depending on course setup. So in reality your looking at an improvement of about .1 to .08 seconds per turn. Thats One tenth to Eight Hundredths of a second faster per turn.

Can you even start and stop a stopwatch in under 1/10th of a second?

After quantifying that, The conclusion I drew was if you are building a track car and are looking for those last few tenths, Sure get the brace as it will help you be faster on track. But if you are building a street car and are expecting to notice the car handling better or cornering faster.... your delusional. As making the car a tenth of a second faster in any particular turn isn't going to be something that you are going to be able to feel.
But hey, if you want to make the car "feel" more stable and stiff, go for it. just don't think that you are substantially faster then you were before the brace, because the data says otherwise."

any one put a strut towerbar on an si?

I have to tend to agree with you if your building cars for the street they really won't make a big diff. but on a track as many people have said they are tighter and more responsive. I've install the upper strut bar, lower front tie, rear lower tie, H brace, and the HFP spring kit and I'm waing on the endlink plates so I can install the rear Progress sway bar so as not to tear everything up. I think this should make a nice combo and for track day it should be fun. Not to concerned about the class as if I'm alittle out classed it will only make me work harder all in good fun!

[aki]

Originally Posted by Highrev1

After quantifying that, The conclusion I drew was if you are building a track car and are looking for those last few tenths, Sure get the brace as it will help you be faster on track. But if you are building a street car and are expecting to notice the car handling better or cornering faster.... your delusional. As making the car a tenth of a second faster in any particular turn isn't going to be something that you are going to be able to feel.

You may not be able to feel the extra 1/10 of a second, but I think you can feel whether the chassis is twisting during hard cornering or not.

Not that I care to buy braces or tower bars--my main goal is to have the car feel more neutral at the limit.

[nevertofast]

Originally Posted by honda_racer07

CUSCO New Products for Civic FD2-Type R
Check out this link this is where I think they started I found these about 8 month ago. They deffinently look tough and I having a sedan would like for someone to import them.

damn that makes me wanna buy them all and just have a stiffy :)