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j00z mad?
No more "do I need a camber kit"

i dont know bug its buggin my if there is going to be another thread that states "Do i need a camber?"

Camber is needed for after markets springs period. ok whew...
Its obvious if the springs doesn't meet OEM specs.

in the sticky's there are spings listed. Hooray.
but these are just my opinion where camber isnt needed...
springs that i think dont need camber -
Eibach - pros
Tein - H-tech
Tanabe - (i forgot the name)

and camber is needed for-
whatever spring i did not mention.

again this is my opinion.

Lets make one thing clear -
OEM Shocks/Struts will blow/wear out eventually if aftermarket springs are being applied

if you have any questions about camber. Read the sticky's or post them here.
hate having to go read a thread when i expect for it to be something else when its not!

thank you. sorry for the vent!

you guys are free to flame me. This thread will be very edumacational.
I too is still learning about the automotive world!

ok well obviously i have a lack of knowledge at the moment.

but also free feel to vent, voice your opnions here about camber!

i just feel it will make it easier for all the members. also for those searching for an answer about thier setup!

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Old 01-09-2008, 03:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i dont know bug its buggin my if there is going to be another thread that states "Do i need a camber?" its obvious if you are going to drop your car more than an inch!

My recommendations -
no camber for the following -
eibach
tanabe
Tein H-techs

Camber for -
the rest of springs that aren't mentioned!

Lets make it clear -
SHOCKS/STRUTS will blow (OEM) if aftermarket springs are applied.

if you have any questions about camber. Read the sticky's or post them here.
hate having to go read a thread when i expect for it to be something else when its not!

thank you. sorry for the vent!
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SHOCKS/STRUTS will blow (OEM) if aftermarket springs are applied.
All dampers eventually blow! Just using ANY lowering spring on a stock damper could and will speed up at the point they will blow.




Rest of the post looks ok. Argumentative my some (even me), but ok...
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soOpa si....

you might want to edit you post with correct information...

a camber kit can be "necessary" with or without any drop. better handling can be acquired with a camber kit by istelf, you do not NEED any aftermarket springs to warrent one.

also, eibach makes 2 different springs, (pro-kit, sportlines) both of which require a camber kit if you want anywhere near the stock settings.

and shcoks/strut will "blow" even with OEM springs. they will wear over time and its inevitable tha tthey will need to be replaced. shocks are recomended to be replaced during a certian mileage interval, and some people have had springs on their car for the entire interval and not had them "blow".
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Old 01-09-2008, 03:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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j00z mad?
sorry! i didnt get into detail about the eibach and the various products.

but im sure i just got to the point.
lol

i know alot of members and people are wondering and want opinions on thier suspension.
just that alot threads ive been too..ive seen "do i need"

but who ever feel free to edit my post!
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^we cant edit your post.....
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do i need a camber with the hfp suspension?








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well in my opinion i dont think so. since the drop isn't that major. Again arent spec's like 1- F, 1-R?
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do i need a camber with the hfp suspension?








cant hurt. and it would be recomended since honda has changed the OEm camber arm for 08+ civic because of y camber wear.
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well in my opinion i dont think so. since the drop isn't that major. Again arent spec's like 1- F, 1-R?
you edited your post wrong...the pro-kit also needs a camber kit. honsetly you should use a camber kit with ANY springs.
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cant hurt. and it would be recomended since honda has changed the OEm camber arm for 08+ civic because of y camber wear.
true that
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I don't like this post. you can benifit from camber kits even on a bone stock car. Also lowering springs do not cause your shocks to "blow", they may just cause them to wear out faster. Not meaning they will blow in one year instead of 8, more like 6 years instead of 8. I have seen plenty of cars ride on lowering springs for many years and have the stock shocks hold up just fine.
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i'm scared to put in springs for that reason, the shocks will wear out
havent decided im either doing

spring + camber OR
hfp sus + camber


or maybe ill put in the spring + camber and when it wears out, i'll get the hfp
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i'm scared to put in springs for that reason, the shocks will wear out
havent decided im either doing

spring + camber OR
hfp sus + camber


or maybe ill put in the spring + camber and when it wears out, i'll get the hfp
just get the springs and camber now, and then shocks later. your stock shocks aren't going to wear out anytime soon. So you should be fine.
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just get the springs and camber now, and then shocks later. your stock shocks aren't going to wear out anytime soon. So you should be fine.
thats probably what i'll end up doing, cheaper
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soOpa si....

you might want to edit you post with correct information...

a camber kit can be "necessary" with or without any drop. better handling can be acquired with a camber kit by istelf, you do not NEED any aftermarket springs to warrent one.


I have stock SI suspension, but i'm getting an adj. camber kit for the front so i can get some negitive camber to aid cornering traction.
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camber kits are also for dailing the the camber you would like for the track or what ever kind of aggressive driving all you gus do
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I know you guys have heard it too many times but I dont feel I need a camber kit on an LX.. lol... my drop is 1.1/0.8 F/R .... S techs
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I know you guys have heard it too many times but I dont feel I need a camber kit on an LX.. lol... my drop is 1.1/0.8 F/R .... S techs
thats an s-tech drop!?
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thats an s-tech drop!?
Yea for LX..

Well my springs will be delivered today and the tein drop for an si is
1.4/1.3 F/R which im hoping mine will be but on the tein site its
0.8/1.1 F/R for the FG1
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yep in the rear only and you could get them from honda
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If you drop more then 1.25, then you might need camber.
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