Race springs?

nmitros · 11-07-2007, 08:59 PM

does ne body have the neuspeed race springs? i wanna see pics and hear about how they handle.

si_civic · 11-07-2007, 09:52 PM

I don't know if anyone would have them, at least for now. Having 2.0"+ drop with factory shocks (as there doesn't seem to be any aftermarket - yet), would really result in the OEM shocks blowing, IMO.

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o-hatch · 11-07-2007, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by nmitros

does ne body have the neuspeed race springs? i wanna see pics and hear about how they handle.

I've got a Set! Handles GREAT!! Consider the G's i pull in my FG. Only down-fall will be sum popping noise over sum bumps.
Here's a Pix:
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nmitros · 11-08-2007, 07:10 PM

thats sick what shocks and struts do u have on ur whip

***Sirbelch*** · 11-08-2007, 07:46 PM

2" is to low of a drop not only for the dampers (shocks) but also the suspension geometry. The over lowering moves the roll center of the car which actually cause more body roll relative to suspension travel than a stock car would. That is not good for handling. Also, over lowering can cause the front tires to gain positve camber which lowers front grip a substantial amount. I will bet you anything, your car with stock springs will spank your neuspeed car on any road corse becuase your suspension geometry is so effed up.

***eugenekim.net*** · 11-08-2007, 08:07 PM

^ what do i say to that?

honda_man12 · 11-08-2007, 08:47 PM

uhhh what? lol Im so lost as well^

nmitros · 11-08-2007, 08:57 PM

that's y they have camber correction kits for both front and rear

***Sirbelch*** · 11-08-2007, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by honda_man12

uhhh what? lol Im so lost as well^

If you are lost read every page of these. That should get you up to speed. Be sure to follow the links in these threads too and read all those.

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***Highrev1*** · 11-08-2007, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by nmitros

that's y they have camber correction kits for both front and rear

Yeah that will solve the issues with going to low

***Sirbelch*** · 11-08-2007, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by nmitros

that's y they have camber correction kits for both front and rear

Camber kits don't adjust roll centers. Only roll center adjusters adjust roll center and they aren't out yet. Roll center has a bigger impact on handling than camber does.

***Highrev1*** · 11-08-2007, 09:10 PM

THat could be debated Belch...

Xtreme Thunder · 11-08-2007, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sirbelch

2" is to low of a drop not only for the dampers (shocks) but also the suspension geometry. The over lowering moves the roll center of the car which actually cause more body roll relative to suspension travel than a stock car would. That is not good for handling. Also, over lowering can cause the front tires to gain positve camber which lowers front grip a substantial amount. I will bet you anything, your car with stock springs will spank your neuspeed car on any road corse becuase your suspension geometry is so effed up.

I am glad we are on the same page!

Xtreme Thunder · 11-08-2007, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sirbelch

Camber kits don't adjust roll centers. Only roll center adjusters adjust roll center and they aren't out yet. Roll center has a bigger impact on handling than camber does.

Adjusting camber and of such can increase rotation of the vehicle around turns. Just have to sacrafice a little tread wear.

Edit: A good alignment would not hurt that is dialed to more of an agressive nature.

***Highrev1*** · 11-08-2007, 09:17 PM

Belch if you were to run SAY -4 degrees camber, chances are no matter how Screwed up the RC is it still won't go positive right

You know I love you still right...

Not even TOE is the general killer for tire wear, camber will do it and it is generally balamed on camber cause that is what people can see with their eyes but Toe is the tire eater, although toe can be used to help rotate the car VERY suscessfully I might add

Xtreme Thunder · 11-08-2007, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Highrev1

Belch if you were to run SAY -4 degrees camber, chances are no matter how Screwed up the RC is it still won't go positive right

You know I love you still right...

Not even TOE is the general killer for tire wear, camber will do it and it is generally balamed on camber cause that is what people can see with their eyes but Toe is the tire eater, although toe can be used to help rotate the car VERY suscessfully I might add

That is what I meant to say. Haha

***Sirbelch*** · 11-08-2007, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Highrev1

Belch if you were to run SAY -4 degrees camber, chances are no matter how Screwed up the RC is it still won't go positive right

You know I love you still right...

Yes, camber won't go positive, but it still won't fix the roll center.

o-hatch · 11-09-2007, 06:35 PM

Well guys, thanks on the Advice on Suspension Geometry. But so far everything been Great! Haven't have any Shock or Tire issue, (20,000 miles) with Mods. And theres no plan for Road-Course Racing in the Future.

honda_man12 · 11-12-2007, 01:36 PM

wow that would be way too low for me...especially in winters where I can plow the street lol..It does look good though

***Sirbelch*** · 11-14-2007, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by honda_man12

wow that would be way too low for me...especially in winters where I can plow the street lol..It does look good though

Whats that? I've heard that word thrown around a couple of times but I can't figure out what it means.

It just gets a little chilli out here and it rains sometimes.

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si_civic Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: B.C. ,Canada Age: 30 Posts: 4,608 A/Cst.D.F.Abate iTrader: 10 / 100%	I don't know if anyone would have them, at least for now. Having 2.0"+ drop with factory shocks (as there doesn't seem to be any aftermarket - yet), would really result in the OEM shocks blowing, IMO. D

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nmitros Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 23 iTrader: 0 / 0%	thats sick what shocks and struts do u have on ur whip

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*Sirbelch* Louder than 4 F404-GE-400 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Vacaville CA Age: 26 Posts: 5,542 Paul iTrader: 1 / 100%	2" is to low of a drop not only for the dampers (shocks) but also the suspension geometry. The over lowering moves the roll center of the car which actually cause more body roll relative to suspension travel than a stock car would. That is not good for handling. Also, over lowering can cause the front tires to gain positve camber which lowers front grip a substantial amount. I will bet you anything, your car with stock springs will spank your neuspeed car on any road corse becuase your suspension geometry is so effed up.

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honda_man12 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toronto, ON Age: 21 Posts: 860 iTrader: 2 / 100%	uhhh what? lol Im so lost as well^

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nmitros Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 23 iTrader: 0 / 0%	that's y they have camber correction kits for both front and rear

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o-hatch Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: MoToRCity Posts: 851 SiR iTrader: 0 / 0%	Well guys, thanks on the Advice on Suspension Geometry. But so far everything been Great! Haven't have any Shock or Tire issue, (20,000 miles) with Mods. And theres no plan for Road-Course Racing in the Future.

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honda_man12 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toronto, ON Age: 21 Posts: 860 iTrader: 2 / 100%	wow that would be way too low for me...especially in winters where I can plow the street lol..It does look good though

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