Need lowering help (I'm from germany)

CivicSi907 · 10-26-2007, 08:09 PM

Hi 8thcivics!

I am from germany, and soon I'm getting my TW Si from the USA.

I want to drop the car about 2". I want to go for the front a bit lower than rear. Front 2.25" and rear 2". What do i need to buy? Springs, Damper? What? How much freespace to the ground is there, if i go so low?
Can i go so deep with the HFP Lip Kit?

Please give me links to online shops where to buy all the things i need.

Thomas from Germany!

CivicSi907 · 10-26-2007, 11:03 PM

No help for a german newbi ? ? ?

***Chase*** · 10-26-2007, 11:06 PM

Don't drop it two inches my friend. 1.5" is the max you should be dumpin yo shit son. You need to find a US soldier over there that is willing to use his APO address to get your parts from the US. YOu will Save a lot of money.

CivicSi907 · 10-26-2007, 11:14 PM

1.5" I think isnt enough! But do you know how much freespace is there if i go 1.5" and put the HFP Lip Kit on?

Thanks for the Info with the US Soldier, i will contact all german based us soldiers of the forum.

THANKS!

***Chase*** · 10-26-2007, 11:15 PM

anymore than 1.5" and your car is not going to handle dude. And you are going to get all kinds of rubbing.. Don't do it for show please.

CivicSi907 · 10-26-2007, 11:16 PM

Hmmm... okay, I'll think about it really!

BUT... how much freespace will there be with 1.5" drop and Lip Kit?

***Izzy*** · 10-26-2007, 11:17 PM

Personally, I think 1" is perfect for a drop. Slightly more aggressive, yet you won't be bottoming out in every speed bump. Just my opinion though.

The HFP kit only really lowers the clearance of the car by about a quarter of a inch to half an inch, so you can still lower it.

Best chance for you to get the exact drop you want is to get some coilovers. Check out Buddy Club for their street spec'd coilovers.

***Chase*** · 10-26-2007, 11:26 PM

I am putting the HFP kit on my car in the morning, I have the 1.3/1.5 Progress spring drop so I will measure it for you and post it up tommorow.

Highrev1 · 10-26-2007, 11:31 PM

http://www.kw-gmbh.de/kw_upload/Gutachten/ga07-2949 There are plenty of good options for you in Europe, no need to get parts from here.

***Izzy*** · 10-26-2007, 11:41 PM

Mmmmm KW!

CivicSi907 · 10-27-2007, 01:12 PM

its for the civic fn2, is it also for the civic si (us version) ??? i want more than 30mm drop.

CivicSi907 · 10-28-2007, 08:12 AM

does it fit the civic si (us version) ????

Highrev1 · 10-28-2007, 04:56 PM

I don't know if it fits, my point is is that there are PLENTY of good companies in Europe to help you out. I personally think you are going WAY too low and need to read some more about suspension design.

CivicSi907 · 11-04-2007, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chase

I am putting the HFP kit on my car in the morning, I have the 1.3/1.5 Progress spring drop so I will measure it for you and post it up tommorow.

Can you pls measure it how much it is?
Or anybody else can measure how much space is between the hfp kit and streetground with a drop.

I mean this here:

Xtreme Thunder · 11-04-2007, 05:17 PM

The FIRST question you should ask yourself is are you looking for performance* or pure looks? (Three part question really)

*Performance for street or track.

Xtreme Thunder · 11-04-2007, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Highrev1

I don't know if it fits, my point is is that there are PLENTY of good companies in Europe to help you out. I personally think you are going WAY too low and need to read some more about suspension design.

Exacty where I was looking to head in his response to my previous post.

CivicSi907 · 11-04-2007, 05:57 PM

Im looking for pure looks and bit performance for street! NEVER TRACK!!!!!!!

BiggJ12 · 11-04-2007, 06:02 PM

If you live in Germany, why are you getting a US Si? Why not the Type R?!

BiggJ12 · 11-04-2007, 06:03 PM

And who cares about ground clearance?! There will be plenty, even with a 1.5" drop all around. Let's just leave it at that!

Xtreme Thunder · 11-04-2007, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CivicSi907

Im looking for pure looks and bit performance for street! NEVER TRACK!!!!!!!

Keep in mind lowering a car does not always automatically equal better handling than stock.

If for looks will be personal preference on what kit you want and how much you want to spend.

Performance minded, HFP kit, designed for the specific application by the company that made the car. Yes it only drops it approx .75" - 1", but I would bet it performs better on a track then just putting a spring set-up on the stock shocks/ struts that lowers 2"+

Lowering the car too much may lower CG too much
These cars are designed and engineered for the street, lowering too much will give less shock/ strut travel.
Lowering too much may have negative effects on suspension geometry and handling.

Just a few things for you to keep in mind.

10-26-2007, 08:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
CivicSi907 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Germany Age: 24 Posts: 970 Thomas iTrader: 0 / 0%	Need lowering help (I'm from germany) Hi 8thcivics! I am from germany, and soon I'm getting my TW Si from the USA. I want to drop the car about 2". I want to go for the front a bit lower than rear. Front 2.25" and rear 2". What do i need to buy? Springs, Damper? What? How much freespace to the ground is there, if i go so low? Can i go so deep with the HFP Lip Kit? Please give me links to online shops where to buy all the things i need. Thomas from Germany!

10-26-2007, 11:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
*Chase* Elitist Si Driver.. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: El Paso Texas Age: 22 Posts: 3,064 Chase iTrader: 3 / 100%	Don't drop it two inches my friend. 1.5" is the max you should be dumpin yo shit son. You need to find a US soldier over there that is willing to use his APO address to get your parts from the US. YOu will Save a lot of money. __________________ Click Here to visit hispeedchase.com

10-26-2007, 11:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
*Chase* Elitist Si Driver.. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: El Paso Texas Age: 22 Posts: 3,064 Chase iTrader: 3 / 100%	anymore than 1.5" and your car is not going to handle dude. And you are going to get all kinds of rubbing.. Don't do it for show please. __________________ Click Here to visit hispeedchase.com

10-26-2007, 11:17 PM	#7 (permalink)
*Izzy* Supreme Pizza! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Azusa, CA Age: 25 Posts: 11,936 iTrader: 5 / 100%	Personally, I think 1" is perfect for a drop. Slightly more aggressive, yet you won't be bottoming out in every speed bump. Just my opinion though. The HFP kit only really lowers the clearance of the car by about a quarter of a inch to half an inch, so you can still lower it. Best chance for you to get the exact drop you want is to get some coilovers. Check out Buddy Club for their street spec'd coilovers. __________________

10-26-2007, 11:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
*Chase* Elitist Si Driver.. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: El Paso Texas Age: 22 Posts: 3,064 Chase iTrader: 3 / 100%	I am putting the HFP kit on my car in the morning, I have the 1.3/1.5 Progress spring drop so I will measure it for you and post it up tommorow. __________________ Click Here to visit hispeedchase.com

10-26-2007, 11:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
CivicSi907 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Germany Age: 24 Posts: 970 Thomas iTrader: 0 / 0%	No help for a german newbi ? ? ?

10-26-2007, 11:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
CivicSi907 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Germany Age: 24 Posts: 970 Thomas iTrader: 0 / 0%	1.5" I think isnt enough! But do you know how much freespace is there if i go 1.5" and put the HFP Lip Kit on? Thanks for the Info with the US Soldier, i will contact all german based us soldiers of the forum. THANKS!

10-26-2007, 11:16 PM	#6 (permalink)
CivicSi907 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Germany Age: 24 Posts: 970 Thomas iTrader: 0 / 0%	Hmmm... okay, I'll think about it really! BUT... how much freespace will there be with 1.5" drop and Lip Kit?

10-26-2007, 11:31 PM	#9 (permalink)
Highrev1 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,710 iTrader: 1 / 100%	http://www.kw-gmbh.de/kw_upload/Gutachten/ga07-2949 There are plenty of good options for you in Europe, no need to get parts from here.

10-26-2007, 11:41 PM	#10 (permalink)
*Izzy* Supreme Pizza! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Azusa, CA Age: 25 Posts: 11,936 iTrader: 5 / 100%	Mmmmm KW! __________________

10-27-2007, 01:12 PM	#11 (permalink)
CivicSi907 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Germany Age: 24 Posts: 970 Thomas iTrader: 0 / 0%	its for the civic fn2, is it also for the civic si (us version) ??? i want more than 30mm drop.

10-28-2007, 08:12 AM	#12 (permalink)
CivicSi907 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Germany Age: 24 Posts: 970 Thomas iTrader: 0 / 0%	does it fit the civic si (us version) ????

10-28-2007, 04:56 PM	#13 (permalink)
Highrev1 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,710 iTrader: 1 / 100%	I don't know if it fits, my point is is that there are PLENTY of good companies in Europe to help you out. I personally think you are going WAY too low and need to read some more about suspension design.

11-04-2007, 05:17 PM	#15 (permalink)
Xtreme Thunder Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hyde Park, New York, U.S.A. Age: 24 Posts: 17,923 Joey iTrader: 6 / 100%	The FIRST question you should ask yourself is are you looking for performance* or pure looks? (Three part question really) *Performance for street or track.

11-04-2007, 05:57 PM	#17 (permalink)
CivicSi907 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Germany Age: 24 Posts: 970 Thomas iTrader: 0 / 0%	Im looking for pure looks and bit performance for street! NEVER TRACK!!!!!!!

11-04-2007, 06:02 PM	#18 (permalink)
BiggJ12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Providence Age: 28 Posts: 107 Matt iTrader: 0 / 0%	If you live in Germany, why are you getting a US Si? Why not the Type R?!

11-04-2007, 06:03 PM	#19 (permalink)
BiggJ12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Providence Age: 28 Posts: 107 Matt iTrader: 0 / 0%	And who cares about ground clearance?! There will be plenty, even with a 1.5" drop all around. Let's just leave it at that!

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