what to get for autox???

[Highrev1]

Originally Posted by jdmEGO

No! Cuzz they said that cuz I had lsd... That what they told me from scca rule book maybe they may be wrong.....

Megan racing H brace

Does that have ANY diagonal bracing? If so Straight to modified you go Otherwise STX sounds right :)

[jdmEGO]

Originally Posted by Highrev1

Does that have ANY diagonal bracing? If so Straight to modified you go Otherwise STX sounds right :)

nope

how long you been Auto-X?

[Highrev1]

Eh...Not that long, but I have had my fair share of beating National CHAMPS shhh they get mad though when I say that..I am not very good I just know what SHOULD be done I just can;t do it.

[jdmEGO]

that pretty cool.... This is my first year doing it and I'm in love wit it..

[Highrev1]

Local to JERZ? I will be happy to take you out.. That goes for ANY 8th civic guys.

As long as I can co-drive

[Kurt]

How about Chicago?

[jdmEGO]

NC, charlotte

[stare_decisis]

haha i didn't know this thread would 'blow up' like this. i am wanting to stay in the G-stock class. i'm not too sure what would make me move up a class.

[Highrev1]

Originally Posted by stare_decisis

haha i didn't know this thread would 'blow up' like this. i am wanting to stay in the G-stock class. i'm not too sure what would make me move up a class.

Shocks
Factory Alignment adjusment, meanind TOe adjustment and the factory crash bolts/slip bolts up front, they = about -.8 degrees of camber up front.
Front sway bar changes
R-compund tires any size within Stock wheel diameter and offset withing .25 offset adjustment.

Thats all thats all thats really allowed in GS

NC Maybee one day

[jdmEGO]

sweet!! I be waiting LOL

[BigDog]

Originally Posted by jdmEGO

nope

how long you been Auto-X?

The H brace is still illegal for STX. From the ST rules:

M. Strut bars are permitted with all types of suspension. Strut bars
may be mounted only transversely across the car from upper right
to upper left suspension mounting point and from lower right to
lower left suspension mounting point. No other configuration is
permitted. Additional holes may be drilled for mounting bolts.
Only bolt-on attachment is permitted. Interior trim panels may be modified to allow installation of strut bars. Holes or slots may be
no larger than necessary and may serve no other purpose. This
does not permit any modifications to the frame or unibody beyond
the allowed mounting holes.

The multiple mounting points makes it illegal. I know Megan makes the other braces that just have two mounting points that go from side to side, but the H brace is no go.

[BigDog]

Originally Posted by Highrev1

Shocks
Factory Alignment adjusment, meanind TOe adjustment and the factory crash bolts/slip bolts up front, they = about -.8 degrees of camber up front.
Front sway bar changes
R-compund tires any size within Stock wheel diameter and offset withing .25 offset adjustment.

Thats all thats all thats really allowed in GS

NC Maybee one day

To continue the "stock" discussion:

For max front grip, go with an LX front bar and wider tires (235s or 245s). 1/8" total toe out minimum with max negative camber you can get from the factory crash bolts.

In the rear, stiffer shocks are a must. The only options right now are custom DA Konis or you can buy honda93's custom Bilsteins. When Koni finally comes out with the "sports", they will be fine too. Go with narrower rear tires (215s or 225s). Toe should be at a minimum of 0 in the rear and if you could get some toe out, it will help the car rotate.

Note that aggressive toe settings as noted above will eat tires on the street, so buyer beware. It's best to dial in toe at the track if you can. If not, 1/8" out up front and 0 in back are OK, and should be somewhat friendly to tire wear.

With the Minis supposedly going to DS next year, GS should open up to cars like the Si and Sentra Spec V.

[honda93]

Originally Posted by BigDog

To continue the "stock" discussion:

For max front grip, go with an LX front bar and wider tires (235s or 245s). 1/8" total toe out minimum with max negative camber you can get from the factory crash bolts.

In the rear, stiffer shocks are a must. The only options right now are custom DA Konis or you can buy honda93's custom Bilsteins. When Koni finally comes out with the "sports", they will be fine too. Go with narrower rear tires (215s or 225s). Toe should be at a minimum of 0 in the rear and if you could get some toe out, it will help the car rotate.

Note that aggressive toe settings as noted above will eat tires on the street, so buyer beware. It's best to dial in toe at the track if you can. If not, 1/8" out up front and 0 in back are OK, and should be somewhat friendly to tire wear.

With the Minis supposedly going to DS next year, GS should open up to cars like the Si and Sentra Spec V.

I just happen to have the link right here! :)

My custom Bilsteins are for sale

Please someone, buy them. I will reveal the percentages and all the secret tech stuff once I receive payment. These shocks will transform the rear of the new Civic, any Civic, into an autocross contender.

Anthony "Mario" Crea
NNJR-SCCA

[jdmEGO]

thank man i will talk to them at the next autox about the H brace

[stare_decisis]

great info!! thanks guys!

[Highrev1]

Originally Posted by BigDog

To continue the "stock" discussion:

For max front grip, go with an LX front bar and wider tires (235s or 245s). 1/8" total toe out minimum with max negative camber you can get from the factory crash bolts.

If at all possible I would even try to source a smaller FSB than the LX one. and compensate by faking spring rates with better dampers. NO?

[honda93]

Originally Posted by Highrev1

If at all possible I would even try to source a smaller FSB than the LX one. and compensate by faking spring rates with better dampers. NO?

If the shock and spring rates are stiff enough to compensate for the lack of a front bar. It seems like most members (not the dozen or so true autocrossers or HPDE drivers) here just want the look without sacrificing ride quality... Then they wonder why their shocks are taking a sh*t! Little do they know that even a Koni cannot be slammed.

I suspect the new Civic would need a front spring rate in excess of 800 lb./inch to get the same cornering ability without the wheelspin issue.

Frankly, anyone with an Si who is going to STX or SM anyway should be putting a Quaife or ATS front differential anyway. That right there would solve 90% of the wheelspin issues, although the cost of entry is higher, but the Si's OEM LSD flat out sucks. My LX has less wheelspin and it has no LSD!

Anthony "Mario" Crea
NNJR-SCCA

[jdmEGO]

Do you think front sway bar and stur bar help with the wheel spin?

[Highrev1]

Right but in theory with the right damper setup it could be compensated for unless a smaller front bar was found, the LX is what 25mm thats still pretty big.

Strut bar NO!!! The only way a FSB could help with corner exit wheel spin would be to reduce the effectivness of it meanig its size.

[jdmEGO]

thank you!!! Im noob at auto-x soo i got a lot of qeustion lol, here my next one

What kinda tire is best for auto- x?