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Old 09-07-2007, 12:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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My wheels are ordered and i want to go ahead and order my suspension too. Im going more for show than performance, my R18 is not a race car nor will it ever be.
That being said the wheels I ordered a 18x7.5 and +45 offset which i think will fit nicely on my EX, my question is what should I drop it on? I drive 80 miles round trip to work 5 days per week, which is a lot of driving. My question is, will i be safe with just springs and camber adjustment (if so, what kind, I want to take care of wheel gap, but not tuck, dont want to rub)...or do i need to go with coilovers cuz i know springs wear down stock struts over time. With 18s on an EX i dont know how much id have to drop though, I was thinking maybe HFP suspension drop an inch or would i need to drop further to take care of gap? Im so excited about the look of my car and cant wait to debut it to youze guys!


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anyone care to help?
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so no1 wants to help at all? this is a first lol
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there are tons of people on here with springs and camber kit running with no problems. It's all on how cheap you want to be. Coilovers are obviously the better choice at the moment.

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They are trying to send you a hint. There are a billion threads on each type of lowering spirng. All you have to do is search.

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There are people for and against every spring model/manufacture. However, Eibach is the only company that makes springs for F1, ALMS, Grand Am, NASCAR and anyother racing series on the planet. All of the springs will cause your dampers to blow at some point whether its 6 months or 3 years, they will blow. So, you might just want to nip that in the bud and get the HFP kit straight away. But do a search and read the stickies (light blue threads) at the top of this section to learn some suspension stuff. That way you can make an informed decision instead of doing what the first person tells you to do.
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ok but also will the HFP kit require a rear camber kit?
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nope^^ just a 1" drop. It will be fine
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ok but also will the HFP kit require a rear camber kit?

But if you want it get the most out of your HFP kit, get FRONT camber bolts and add some negitive camber to the front and leave the rears where they are. That will be a fun car to drive.
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IMO, Tein S-tech is good for look but those are too soft from what I heard, Eibach is a good brand too, they have pro-kit and sportlines...
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Ya but my biggest issue is will it all fit with 18x7.5 w/ +45, I would love to go HFP but will that 1in drop be enough to take care of the wheel gap? and why give negative camber to the front w/ HFP?
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Ya but my biggest issue is will it all fit with 18x7.5 w/ +45, I would love to go HFP but will that 1in drop be enough to take care of the wheel gap? and why give negative camber to the front w/ HFP?
There is plenty of room for 18's on the HFP kit. HFP rims come in 18"

Dont second guess man. HFP kit come from honda and it's also covered under warranty.

The camber on the front really doesn't need adjustment with the HFP kit. It would just be a nice addition.
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could some1 post up a pic of a coupe with 18s and HFP kit, i wanna make sure its low enough =) then maybe ill get a Sweet n' Low sugar packet decal on my window =) lol jk
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Ya but my biggest issue is will it all fit with 18x7.5 w/ +45, I would love to go HFP but will that 1in drop be enough to take care of the wheel gap? and why give negative camber to the front w/ HFP?
From the factory, the front comes with 0° of camber and the rear comes with -1° of camber. This Honda does this to make the car push at the limits because a car that pushes is easier to handle for the normal driver than a car that is neutral or loose. Sooo, if you get the HFP kit (drop is about .9 in) the rear camber is going to go up to about -1.25° and the front isn’t going to change at all. This will cause the car to push even more at the limit (even though those limits will be higher) than the stock suspension does. So, to counter that, you need to add negative camber to the front. Doing this will increase front end grip in turn. If you increase front end grip without increasing the rear end grip, this will lessen the understeer that our cars have make the car more fun to drive and increasing the limits. You do not need a camber kit (front or rear) to stop the small amount of tire wear negative camber causes, but you will need it if you want to handle better.

I have had 225/40/18 tires on a 18 x 7.5 in rim with a larger drop than the HFP kit and I had to roll the fenders to keep from rubbing. The HFP suspension kit is designed to work with the HFP 18 in wheels which are 18 x 7.5 with a +45 offset, just like the ones you are looking at.
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awsome thanks for the info guys! great help


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