Do your aftermarket springs really "settle"?

[HondaScott]

Hi All,

I keep hearing about people installing springs and waiting a couple of weeks to get there alignment done. Have your springs actually noticeably settled over this period?

If so please tell me what brand so that I can never buy those springs.

Are there any springs for sale for the civic that will not sag?

Scott

[GlxyGry06Si]

tein s techs and if they settled then they all did it the same amount cuz its sits pretty even. tein ftw

[Jardiniboy]

Actually mostly all springs has to settle.

[HondaScott]

I think that "technically" if a spring is built correctly it should never settle (plastically deform or creep). I don't know if this is true in reality, and if it is I bet the springs are probably pretty expensive.

[Highrev1]

"Drive the car hard for ten miles to let the springs, spacers, etc. settle properly." This was suggested by Eibach..A well respected name in springs...I would suspect its more to ensure things are properly tightented down and nothing went ary with the install.

ALOT of the time what I think people around here refer to as setteling is more from the Dampers than anything. THe factory Dampers suck, then you get lowering springs and change/lower where those already crappy dampers are meant to be used, their pistion range, and reducing the stroke of the piston, puting even more stress on them.

There factory gas charged so once they start to blow, which happens over time NOT AT ONCE like many say "I blew out my shock today man" NO that doesn't happen, you slightly lose pressure in the damper, in turn losing a little spring rate allowing for a slightly lower ride height associated with a "settled" spring. Just my .02

[Sirbelch]

If the spring does "settle", it does so as soon as you lower the car and put weight on the suspension.

[Sirbelch]

Originally Posted by Highrev1

There factory gas charged so once they start to blow, which happens over time NOT AT ONCE like many say "I blew out my shock today man" NO that doesn't happen, you slightly lose pressure in the damper, in turn losing a little spring rate allowing for a slightly lower ride height associated with a "settled" spring. Just my .02

Revy, have you been drinking again? Its Thrusday right? I get what you are saying, but you REALLY need to proof read sometimes.

[Highrev1]

O drink every night....Just that tonight I was especially heavy...I still dont see whats wrong witht hat run on??

[Sirbelch]

Whats your drink? I like whiskey on the rocks, gin martinis, lots of different beers (Belgium Abby is my favorite style at the moment), Red wines, shots of good tequila and margaritas if im at a mexican restaurant. I drink a lot too.

P.S. any new words?

[honda93]

Originally Posted by Highrev1

The factory Dampers suck

Wow! This is the first time we disagree Greg!

Also, one must consider the actual spring rate. Just because your Tein (for example) springs are rated at 10k, one may be 9.8k and the other is 10.4k. The spring rates are approximations.

Eibach has about a 10% variation rate on their springs, so a 500lb./inch race spring could really be 450 or 550 lb./inch. That'll affect ride height due to corner weight settings.

When I had my old 1993 Civic, my custom valved Koni Sports controlled Hypercoil race springs which have a variation of only 2%. So the 600lb./inch springs I had were anywhere from 588lb./inch to 612lb./inch.

http://www.hypercoils.com/

If I were still modifying cars to that extent, I'd have them on the new Civic as well. But running in Stock simplified things for me and I no longer have to worry about such things (no spring changes as per the rules).

Anthony "Mario" Crea
NNJR-SCCA

[lowerlevel]

mine settled after i put a full tank of gas in.. lol
but seriously i have ebiach pro kit and they did settle alittle, well not really.. anyway

[ThaJazz]

When my dealer put the HFP springs 'n shocks on, he said they would need a day to settle. They did get lower, by just a bit, but nothing dramatic. I don't take it as a flaw in the suspension.