When To Use Camber Kits?/do I Need A Camber Kit? - Page 2

Type_R_Nammer · 09-11-2007, 08:03 PM

Another question for this thread, lets say for example I plan to put on coilovers but I plan to lower an inch would I still need an alignment, gut feel says most likely.

***Sirbelch*** · 09-11-2007, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Type_R_Nammer

Another question for this thread, lets say for example I plan to put on coilovers but I plan to lower an inch would I still need an alignment, gut feel says most likely.

ANY time you unbolt the suspenion, you need and alignment.

AznSupastar · 09-11-2007, 10:51 PM

how can u fix a neg camber wear if u have directional summer tires and neg camber front and back?

LucasBlack · 09-12-2007, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by AznSupastar

how can u fix a neg camber wear if u have directional summer tires and neg camber front and back?

i'm guessing "fix neg. camber wear" means that the inner tread of your tires is running down consistenly quicker than the outside tread of your tires?

now, how much camber are you running? do you have adjustable camber bolts/arms for your civic already?

for the most part, reducing neg. camber(running closer to zero camber) would help keep the inside tread wearing down significantly faster than the outside tread.

***Sirbelch*** · 09-12-2007, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AznSupastar

how can u fix a neg camber wear if u have directional summer tires and neg camber front and back?

If you drive spiritedly every now and then, you won't have to worry about that.

Highrev1 · 09-12-2007, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LucasBlack

yes, because the amount of drop that it provides does not cause enough of a change in camber to cause adverse effects to your tires.
...just keep a steady tire rotation schedule and everything should be fine.

Well not only for better tire wear but ALSO to improve handling EVEN on a stock suspension I would suggest a more aggresive alignment than the OEM one..Its garbage and not meant to help "turn" at all...its meant tokeep you safe and not sping the car so don;t go tooo aggresive and you will be fine -1.5 front and -1 rear make sure toe is zeroed out...

b16er · 09-13-2007, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Highrev1

Well not only for better tire wear but ALSO to improve handling EVEN on a stock suspension I would suggest a more aggresive alignment than the OEM one..Its garbage and not meant to help "turn" at all...its meant tokeep you safe and not sping the car so don;t go tooo aggresive and you will be fine -1.5 front and -1 rear make sure toe is zeroed out...

THANK YOU. That was the answer I was looking for.

***07mugencivic*** · 09-13-2007, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Type_R_Nammer

thank you, it got a little cluttered in here lol.

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for example after the car gets lowered (without camber kit) you still have to go for an alignment to adjust the toe right?

to the point

ac2539 · 09-19-2007, 11:19 PM

dude, i just got my rear camber kit installed and i told them somewhere between -1 to -1.25, and when i got my car back, its set at -1.50. Is is really that much of a problem to get it to a certain setting?

dt07Si · 09-19-2007, 11:28 PM

As usual great info Greg!

Highrev1 · 09-20-2007, 12:09 AM

^^Thanks

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Originally Posted by ac2539

dude, i just got my rear camber kit installed and i told them somewhere between -1 to -1.25, and when i got my car back, its set at -1.50. Is is really that much of a problem to get it to a certain setting?

It depends how serious you are about either competition or handling. -1.5 rear isn't bad, what is the front set to? That will make a difference. If you run say -3 front -1.5 rear wouldn't be so bad or even -2 rear. Its all a compromise.

ac2539 · 09-20-2007, 12:17 AM

my front camber is L 0.0, R -0.4

never bought bolts for the front. oh well

Highrev1 · 09-20-2007, 12:23 AM

Ahh get some - front camber, the car will handle much better and won't kill tires too much say go -1.25 degrees.

***Sirbelch*** · 09-21-2007, 09:24 PM

Only long commutes and drag (or quick) lauches will wear the inside shoulder a little faster than the rest of the tire when you add negitive camber.

Type_R_Nammer · 09-26-2007, 02:47 AM

w00t got my Tein SS, getting them installed soon.

Most likely I'll lower it an inch all around since its kinda hard to source out camber arms for a good price.

Shouldnt be too rough on the camber after I get it aligned right?

mO 64 StAnG 06 · 10-23-2007, 11:44 PM

Looks like my next modification after tires will be some camber kits...

My car on stock suspension and bald tires handles very well to me, I can't imagine it getting any better.

BTW, quick question. I've asked in another thread but had no response so I will ask again. I've got a few miles over 20,000 miles on my car/tires and they are legally bald, is there warranty on those? If so, do I contact the manufacturer for replacements if I can?

LucasBlack · 10-23-2007, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mO 64 StAnG 06

I've got a few miles over 20,000 miles on my car/tires and they are legally bald, is there warranty on those? If so, do I contact the manufacturer for replacements if I can?

i doubt there is coverage for that. 20,000 miles is enough, i believe, for any manufacturer to say that you got plenty of life out of them.

especially when dealing with tires balding...i think a manu. can easily say that they weren't "defective", just used in a fashion that would wear them down a bit quicker than most.

- now if you had 8000 miles on them, and they were bald, you MIGHT have something there. but that would be somewhat amazing to see happen. (amazing if those 8000 miles weren't track only)

Highrev1 · 10-24-2007, 12:01 AM

Your screwed....They will claim alignment issues also...

Get some new ones and be done with it.

mO 64 StAnG 06 · 10-24-2007, 12:29 AM

lol figured... Im broke ATM and didn't really feel like spending the cash to replace the tires on stock rims. Looks like I got no choice.

Im looking into a set of Michelin PS2's or something in that area. I've heard great things about those tires, whats yall's opinions on them?

Also, after searching a bit, how are the SPC Rear Camber kit's on stock suspension? Im looking into getting the camber kits before I get, if I ever do, coilovers. And how is the stock spring rate? Would going a bit stiffer add THAT much of an improvement over stock?

**ErichPryde** · 10-26-2007, 06:42 AM

mO 64 stAnG 06, were you on the stock tires? the stock michellins (non-summer) should last right about 23,000 miles or so.

I switched to Goodyear Eagle F1 All Season Tires, and I love them. world of difference from the stock tires, even when the stock tires were in good shape.

so, what am I looking at here- lowering springs, front camber bolts, and rear camber arms? -1.5 in front and -1 in back? is all that about right?

10-24-2007, 12:29 AM	#39 (permalink)
mO 64 StAnG 06 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wylie, Texas Age: 20 Posts: 3,983 iTrader: 0 / 0%	lol figured... Im broke ATM and didn't really feel like spending the cash to replace the tires on stock rims. Looks like I got no choice. Im looking into a set of Michelin PS2's or something in that area. I've heard great things about those tires, whats yall's opinions on them? Also, after searching a bit, how are the SPC Rear Camber kit's on stock suspension? Im looking into getting the camber kits before I get, if I ever do, coilovers. And how is the stock spring rate? Would going a bit stiffer add THAT much of an improvement over stock? Last edited by mO 64 StAnG 06; 10-24-2007 at 12:44 AM.

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Type_R_Nammer Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 1,245 Jason iTrader: 1 / 100%	Another question for this thread, lets say for example I plan to put on coilovers but I plan to lower an inch would I still need an alignment, gut feel says most likely.

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AznSupastar Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 2,261 2007 Taffeta White Si Coupe iTrader: 6 / 100%	how can u fix a neg camber wear if u have directional summer tires and neg camber front and back?

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ac2539 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Fremont, CA Age: 21 Posts: 2,017 iTrader: 3 / 100%	dude, i just got my rear camber kit installed and i told them somewhere between -1 to -1.25, and when i got my car back, its set at -1.50. Is is really that much of a problem to get it to a certain setting?

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dt07Si Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Dirty Jerz Age: 23 Posts: 4,272 Dave iTrader: 1 / 100%	As usual great info Greg!

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ac2539 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Fremont, CA Age: 21 Posts: 2,017 iTrader: 3 / 100%	my front camber is L 0.0, R -0.4 never bought bolts for the front. oh well

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Highrev1 Senior Member Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PM me NothernNJ Installs/Details Posts: 3,877 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Ahh get some - front camber, the car will handle much better and won't kill tires too much say go -1.25 degrees.

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*Sirbelch* Louder than 4 F404-GE-400 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Vacaville CA Age: 27 Posts: 6,498 Paul iTrader: 0 / 50%	Only long commutes and drag (or quick) lauches will wear the inside shoulder a little faster than the rest of the tire when you add negitive camber.

09-26-2007, 02:47 AM	#35 (permalink)
Type_R_Nammer Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 1,245 Jason iTrader: 1 / 100%	w00t got my Tein SS, getting them installed soon. Most likely I'll lower it an inch all around since its kinda hard to source out camber arms for a good price. Shouldnt be too rough on the camber after I get it aligned right?

10-23-2007, 11:44 PM	#36 (permalink)
mO 64 StAnG 06 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wylie, Texas Age: 20 Posts: 3,983 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Looks like my next modification after tires will be some camber kits... My car on stock suspension and bald tires handles very well to me, I can't imagine it getting any better. BTW, quick question. I've asked in another thread but had no response so I will ask again. I've got a few miles over 20,000 miles on my car/tires and they are legally bald, is there warranty on those? If so, do I contact the manufacturer for replacements if I can?

10-24-2007, 12:01 AM	#38 (permalink)
Highrev1 Senior Member Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PM me NothernNJ Installs/Details Posts: 3,877 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Your screwed....They will claim alignment issues also... Get some new ones and be done with it.

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ErichPryde Kansas Chainsaw Massacre Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Wichita Age: 26 Posts: 6,256 Erik iTrader: 7 / 100%	mO 64 stAnG 06, were you on the stock tires? the stock michellins (non-summer) should last right about 23,000 miles or so. I switched to Goodyear Eagle F1 All Season Tires, and I love them. world of difference from the stock tires, even when the stock tires were in good shape. so, what am I looking at here- lowering springs, front camber bolts, and rear camber arms? -1.5 in front and -1 in back? is all that about right?