Important info for all those with aftermarket sways! - Page 2

iomatic · 06-10-2007, 01:44 PM

Can we get a list of after-market end-link kits for 8th gen cars?

***sbigshot*** · 06-10-2007, 05:21 PM

Is there a possibility that your other suspension / wheel mods may have put extra stress on the mount or maybe corrosion from salted roads? I can't find any other instances where this has happened on an 8th gen.

I am super curious as to what caused this failure since I have an EX with the Progress rear sway.

Thanx for the info & 'heads up'

**J-Ro** · 06-10-2007, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sbigshot

Is there a possibility that your other suspension / wheel mods may have put extra stress on the mount or maybe corrosion from salted roads? I can't find any other instances where this has happened on an 8th gen.

I am super curious as to what caused this failure since I have an EX with the Progress rear sway.

Thanx for the info & 'heads up'

Theoretically, salty roads could be to blame, but given Honda's history, I would sincerely hope not. The only suspension mod that would cause increased stress in that mount would be the swaybar, and I guarantee that's why it happened...and that's why I'm putting this info out, so that people who have the swaybar can watch for this, and people thinking about getting one can make a more informed choice :)

***Highrev1*** · 06-10-2007, 08:02 PM

Hmm if this becomes a common problem I am sure some sort of "Stregthener" could be made so this doesn't happen. Somthing that emulates the same shape of that connecting bracket and bolts onto it From both sides so everyone doesn't need to get it welded.

truflip · 06-10-2007, 10:25 PM

hmm interesting stuff. glad you fixed it.... but now I gotta hold my order. really wanted one and was willing to wait but ahhh... either way, im glad its fixed and your baby is fine :)

lonelydriver · 06-10-2007, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Ro

Theoretically, salty roads could be to blame, but given Honda's history, I would sincerely hope not. The only suspension mod that would cause increased stress in that mount would be the swaybar, and I guarantee that's why it happened...and that's why I'm putting this info out, so that people who have the swaybar can watch for this, and people thinking about getting one can make a more informed choice :)

Or you can make slower turns...

Andrei'sCivic · 06-10-2007, 11:56 PM

I heard on the other Civic forums that 7th gen Civics with lower tie bars/rear upper strut bar combined with sway bars of 19mm and larger have experienced broken rear subframes and some other suspension/chassis components?

Do you think what happened to J-Ro with the endlinks breaking off the lower control arm is just as likely on the Si? On www.hondaautomotiveparts.com it shows that the Si control arm and the non Si one have different part numbers, however the part number for the plastic cover that goes over a certain part of the rear lower control arm shares the same part number. Besides the parts look completely identical in the diagrams.

reaper702 · 06-11-2007, 03:55 AM

hmm i'm gonna have to check mine tomorrow...

**dentrecords** · 06-11-2007, 10:18 AM

I have to wonder if this is exactly the same in an Si or not..

iomatic · 06-11-2007, 01:25 PM

Ah. I was under the (ignorant) impression this was an Si. Are endlinks stronger? Does anyone know?

***wannapar3*** · 06-11-2007, 10:31 PM

Thanks for the heads up. I'll have to take a good look at mine when I change my oil this week.

itzwykd · 06-12-2007, 08:26 AM

Good info. I just bought all my part yesterday and now I am unsure I want to install them.

tommyroo · 06-12-2007, 11:13 AM

Is my understanding correct that it wasn't the endlinks that failed but part of the car frame?

If that is true anyone want to buy a brand new bar for cheap?

I never installed my Progress rear sway bar. It's been my closet for about 5 months. I'm lazy and now I'm way to

to ever put it on.

Someone reassure me.

06Si_LoveR · 06-12-2007, 11:17 AM

Wow I have to watch mine too...

**J-Ro** · 06-12-2007, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommyroo

Is my understanding correct that it wasn't the endlinks that failed but part of the car frame?

...

Someone reassure me.

You are correct.

If it's any consolation, if you have access to a welder, you can reinforce it pretty easily.

***pineapple*** · 06-12-2007, 11:29 AM

now i don't know if i want to run the progressive say bar.. or use my megan sway bar

**dentrecords** · 06-12-2007, 12:01 PM

just for clarification (in case it's not clear) J-Ro does NOT have an Si. I'm still wondering if the bracket is the same on the R18 coupes....

**J-Ro** · 06-12-2007, 12:30 PM

^ Yeah, thanks Mike. I probably should have clarified. I imagine the LCAs would be the same, but I don't know.

*EDIT* Here are the LCA p/n's:

SI:
52370-SVB-A02 020 ARM, R. RR. TRAILING
52371-SVB-A02 021 ARM ASSY., L. RR. TRAILING

EX:
52370-SNA-A04 020 ARM, R. RR. TRAILING
52371-SNA-A04 021 ARM, L. RR. TRAILING

Same images (exact same address), but different part numbers, so no guarantee that the LCAs are the same.

***Sorry about the image size... I don't know why they came out so huge

iomatic · 06-12-2007, 12:59 PM

Big duh question:

Uh, where do(es) the sway bar(s) go in? :)

View Poll Results: Has this happened to you? (Only vote if you fall into the following categories)
Yes, with a Progress rear sway bar	9	5.36%
Yes, with another aftermarket rear sway bar	1	0.60%
No, but my stock end links broke	9	5.36%
It won't ever happen to me because this thread really scared me!	149	88.69%
Voters: 168. You may not vote on this poll

06-11-2007, 10:31 PM	#31 (permalink)
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*pineapple* night shift whore Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: oklahoma Age: 25 Posts: 9,759 simply hawaiian iTrader: 10 / 100%	now i don't know if i want to run the progressive say bar.. or use my megan sway bar __________________ you can find me at www.stuntlife.com it's my old home Last edited by pineapple; 06-12-2007 at 11:52 AM.

06-10-2007, 01:44 PM	#21 (permalink)
iomatic Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 37 Posts: 1,054 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Can we get a list of after-market end-link kits for 8th gen cars?

06-10-2007, 05:21 PM	#22 (permalink)
*sbigshot* ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,025 iTrader: 18 / 100%	Is there a possibility that your other suspension / wheel mods may have put extra stress on the mount or maybe corrosion from salted roads? I can't find any other instances where this has happened on an 8th gen. I am super curious as to what caused this failure since I have an EX with the Progress rear sway. Thanx for the info & 'heads up'

06-10-2007, 10:25 PM	#25 (permalink)
truflip Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON Age: 22 Posts: 6,717 iTrader: 11 / 100%	hmm interesting stuff. glad you fixed it.... but now I gotta hold my order. really wanted one and was willing to wait but ahhh... either way, im glad its fixed and your baby is fine :)

06-10-2007, 11:56 PM	#27 (permalink)
Andrei'sCivic Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Long Beach, CA Age: 20 Posts: 655 Andrei iTrader: 2 / 100%	I heard on the other Civic forums that 7th gen Civics with lower tie bars/rear upper strut bar combined with sway bars of 19mm and larger have experienced broken rear subframes and some other suspension/chassis components? Do you think what happened to J-Ro with the endlinks breaking off the lower control arm is just as likely on the Si? On www.hondaautomotiveparts.com it shows that the Si control arm and the non Si one have different part numbers, however the part number for the plastic cover that goes over a certain part of the rear lower control arm shares the same part number. Besides the parts look completely identical in the diagrams.

06-11-2007, 03:55 AM	#28 (permalink)
reaper702 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sin City Age: 21 Posts: 3,621 iTrader: 4 / 100%	hmm i'm gonna have to check mine tomorrow...

06-11-2007, 01:25 PM	#30 (permalink)
iomatic Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 37 Posts: 1,054 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Ah. I was under the (ignorant) impression this was an Si. Are endlinks stronger? Does anyone know?

06-12-2007, 08:26 AM	#32 (permalink)
itzwykd Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Columbus, GA Age: 29 Posts: 471 Kevin Briggs iTrader: 1 / 100%	Good info. I just bought all my part yesterday and now I am unsure I want to install them.

06-12-2007, 11:13 AM	#33 (permalink)
tommyroo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 34 Posts: 1,155 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Is my understanding correct that it wasn't the endlinks that failed but part of the car frame? If that is true anyone want to buy a brand new bar for cheap? I never installed my Progress rear sway bar. It's been my closet for about 5 months. I'm lazy and now I'm way to to ever put it on. Someone reassure me.

06-12-2007, 11:17 AM	#34 (permalink)
06Si_LoveR Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Baton Rouge Age: 26 Posts: 1,426 Shuzoku 4 Life iTrader: 3 / 100%	Wow I have to watch mine too...

06-12-2007, 12:59 PM	#39 (permalink)
iomatic Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 37 Posts: 1,054 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Big duh question: Uh, where do(es) the sway bar(s) go in? :)

06-12-2007, 02:14 PM	#40 (permalink)
J-Ro Slave to the corporation Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ontario Age: 26 Posts: 2,285 Jason iTrader: 2 / 100%