Important info for all those with aftermarket sways! - Page 2

***iomatic*** · 06-10-2007, 02:44 PM

Can we get a list of after-market end-link kits for 8th gen cars?

sbigshot · 06-10-2007, 06:21 PM

Is there a possibility that your other suspension / wheel mods may have put extra stress on the mount or maybe corrosion from salted roads? I can't find any other instances where this has happened on an 8th gen.

I am super curious as to what caused this failure since I have an EX with the Progress rear sway.

Thanx for the info & 'heads up'

***J-Ro*** · 06-10-2007, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sbigshot

Is there a possibility that your other suspension / wheel mods may have put extra stress on the mount or maybe corrosion from salted roads? I can't find any other instances where this has happened on an 8th gen.

I am super curious as to what caused this failure since I have an EX with the Progress rear sway.

Thanx for the info & 'heads up'

Theoretically, salty roads could be to blame, but given Honda's history, I would sincerely hope not. The only suspension mod that would cause increased stress in that mount would be the swaybar, and I guarantee that's why it happened...and that's why I'm putting this info out, so that people who have the swaybar can watch for this, and people thinking about getting one can make a more informed choice

Highrev1 · 06-10-2007, 09:02 PM

Hmm if this becomes a common problem I am sure some sort of "Stregthener" could be made so this doesn't happen. Somthing that emulates the same shape of that connecting bracket and bolts onto it From both sides so everyone doesn't need to get it welded.

***truflip*** · 06-10-2007, 11:25 PM

hmm interesting stuff. glad you fixed it.... but now I gotta hold my order. really wanted one and was willing to wait but ahhh... either way, im glad its fixed and your baby is fine

lonelydriver · 06-11-2007, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Ro

Theoretically, salty roads could be to blame, but given Honda's history, I would sincerely hope not. The only suspension mod that would cause increased stress in that mount would be the swaybar, and I guarantee that's why it happened...and that's why I'm putting this info out, so that people who have the swaybar can watch for this, and people thinking about getting one can make a more informed choice

Or you can make slower turns...

Andrei'sCivic · 06-11-2007, 12:56 AM

I heard on the other Civic forums that 7th gen Civics with lower tie bars/rear upper strut bar combined with sway bars of 19mm and larger have experienced broken rear subframes and some other suspension/chassis components?

Do you think what happened to J-Ro with the endlinks breaking off the lower control arm is just as likely on the Si? On www.hondaautomotiveparts.com it shows that the Si control arm and the non Si one have different part numbers, however the part number for the plastic cover that goes over a certain part of the rear lower control arm shares the same part number. Besides the parts look completely identical in the diagrams.

reaper702 · 06-11-2007, 04:55 AM

hmm i'm gonna have to check mine tomorrow...

***dentrecords*** · 06-11-2007, 11:18 AM

I have to wonder if this is exactly the same in an Si or not..

***iomatic*** · 06-11-2007, 02:25 PM

Ah. I was under the (ignorant) impression this was an Si. Are endlinks stronger? Does anyone know?

wannapar3 · 06-11-2007, 11:31 PM

Thanks for the heads up. I'll have to take a good look at mine when I change my oil this week.

itzwykd · 06-12-2007, 09:26 AM

Good info. I just bought all my part yesterday and now I am unsure I want to install them.

tommyroo · 06-12-2007, 12:13 PM

Is my understanding correct that it wasn't the endlinks that failed but part of the car frame?

If that is true anyone want to buy a brand new bar for cheap?

I never installed my Progress rear sway bar. It's been my closet for about 5 months. I'm lazy and now I'm way to

to ever put it on.

Someone reassure me.

06Si_LoveR · 06-12-2007, 12:17 PM

Wow I have to watch mine too...

***J-Ro*** · 06-12-2007, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommyroo

Is my understanding correct that it wasn't the endlinks that failed but part of the car frame?

...

Someone reassure me.

You are correct.

If it's any consolation, if you have access to a welder, you can reinforce it pretty easily.

pineapple · 06-12-2007, 12:29 PM

now i don't know if i want to run the progressive say bar.. or use my megan sway bar

***dentrecords*** · 06-12-2007, 01:01 PM

just for clarification (in case it's not clear) J-Ro does NOT have an Si. I'm still wondering if the bracket is the same on the R18 coupes....

***J-Ro*** · 06-12-2007, 01:30 PM

^ Yeah, thanks Mike. I probably should have clarified. I imagine the LCAs would be the same, but I don't know.

*EDIT* Here are the LCA p/n's:

SI:
52370-SVB-A02 020 ARM, R. RR. TRAILING
52371-SVB-A02 021 ARM ASSY., L. RR. TRAILING

EX:
52370-SNA-A04 020 ARM, R. RR. TRAILING
52371-SNA-A04 021 ARM, L. RR. TRAILING

Same images (exact same address), but different part numbers, so no guarantee that the LCAs are the same.

***Sorry about the image size... I don't know why they came out so huge

***iomatic*** · 06-12-2007, 01:59 PM

Big duh question:

Uh, where do(es) the sway bar(s) go in?

***J-Ro*** · 06-12-2007, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iomatic

Big duh question:

Uh, where do(es) the sway bar(s) go in?

Goes underneath the car... the rear is just in front of the gas tank. Each end connects to an endlink, which is in turn connected to the lower control arm (LCA). The break on my car was between the left endlink and the bracket on the LCA.

View Poll Results: Has this happened to you? (Only vote if you fall into the following categories)
Yes, with a Progress rear sway bar	37	9.74%
Yes, with another aftermarket rear sway bar	5	1.32%
No, but my stock end links broke	15	3.95%
It won't ever happen to me because this thread really scared me!	323	85.00%
Voters: 380. You may not vote on this poll

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pineapple Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Age: 29 Posts: 14,497 Kauinui	now i don't know if i want to run the progressive say bar.. or use my megan sway bar Last edited by pineapple; 06-12-2007 at 12:52 PM.

06-12-2007, 01:30 PM	#38 (permalink)
*J-Ro* Six eyes Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ontario Age: 29 Posts: 4,882 Jason	^ Yeah, thanks Mike. I probably should have clarified. I imagine the LCAs would be the same, but I don't know. EDIT Here are the LCA p/n's: SI: 52370-SVB-A02 020 ARM, R. RR. TRAILING 52371-SVB-A02 021 ARM ASSY., L. RR. TRAILING EX: 52370-SNA-A04 020 ARM, R. RR. TRAILING 52371-SNA-A04 021 ARM, L. RR. TRAILING Same images (exact same address), but different part numbers, so no guarantee that the LCAs are the same. **Sorry about the image size... I don't know why they came out so huge __________________ I'm so JDM, my girlfriend is Japanese. 私はあまりにもJDMなので、私の彼女は日本人です。 Last edited by J-Ro; 06-12-2007 at 01:42 PM.*

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06-10-2007, 02:44 PM	#21 (permalink)
*iomatic* VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,352	Can we get a list of after-market end-link kits for 8th gen cars?

06-10-2007, 06:21 PM	#22 (permalink)
sbigshot Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Lake Charles, La. Posts: 2,286	Is there a possibility that your other suspension / wheel mods may have put extra stress on the mount or maybe corrosion from salted roads? I can't find any other instances where this has happened on an 8th gen. I am super curious as to what caused this failure since I have an EX with the Progress rear sway. Thanx for the info & 'heads up'

06-10-2007, 09:02 PM	#24 (permalink)
Highrev1 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PM me NothernNJ Detailing Posts: 4,022	Hmm if this becomes a common problem I am sure some sort of "Stregthener" could be made so this doesn't happen. Somthing that emulates the same shape of that connecting bracket and bolts onto it From both sides so everyone doesn't need to get it welded.

06-10-2007, 11:25 PM	#25 (permalink)
*truflip* VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON Posts: 12,328 karlitO	hmm interesting stuff. glad you fixed it.... but now I gotta hold my order. really wanted one and was willing to wait but ahhh... either way, im glad its fixed and your baby is fine

06-11-2007, 12:56 AM	#27 (permalink)
Andrei'sCivic Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: UCSB, Isla Vista Age: 24 Posts: 840 Andrei	I heard on the other Civic forums that 7th gen Civics with lower tie bars/rear upper strut bar combined with sway bars of 19mm and larger have experienced broken rear subframes and some other suspension/chassis components? Do you think what happened to J-Ro with the endlinks breaking off the lower control arm is just as likely on the Si? On www.hondaautomotiveparts.com it shows that the Si control arm and the non Si one have different part numbers, however the part number for the plastic cover that goes over a certain part of the rear lower control arm shares the same part number. Besides the parts look completely identical in the diagrams.

06-11-2007, 04:55 AM	#28 (permalink)
reaper702 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sin City Posts: 4,950	hmm i'm gonna have to check mine tomorrow...

06-11-2007, 02:25 PM	#30 (permalink)
*iomatic* VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,352	Ah. I was under the (ignorant) impression this was an Si. Are endlinks stronger? Does anyone know?

06-11-2007, 11:31 PM	#31 (permalink)
wannapar3 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Upstate NY. Posts: 263	Thanks for the heads up. I'll have to take a good look at mine when I change my oil this week.

06-12-2007, 09:26 AM	#32 (permalink)
itzwykd Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Columbus, GA Age: 33 Posts: 473 Kevin Briggs	Good info. I just bought all my part yesterday and now I am unsure I want to install them.

06-12-2007, 12:13 PM	#33 (permalink)
tommyroo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 38 Posts: 1,149	Is my understanding correct that it wasn't the endlinks that failed but part of the car frame? If that is true anyone want to buy a brand new bar for cheap? I never installed my Progress rear sway bar. It's been my closet for about 5 months. I'm lazy and now I'm way to to ever put it on. Someone reassure me.

06-12-2007, 12:17 PM	#34 (permalink)
06Si_LoveR Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Baton Rouge Age: 29 Posts: 2,503	Wow I have to watch mine too...

06-12-2007, 01:59 PM	#39 (permalink)
*iomatic* VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,352	Big duh question: Uh, where do(es) the sway bar(s) go in?

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