Suspension Theory/Chat Thread

[JDMReddy]

Originally Posted by honda93

But I have man-boobs, it's always a party when the Konis are turned up.

Anthony "Mario" Crea
NNJR-SCCA

.... ummm....

[meeks]

i actually LOL'd @ mario's comment. hahahahahaha

[Moose]

Originally Posted by jrotax101

they make road trips even better too.. added in car entertainment over bumps. just don't let her catch you watching them bounce

Or purposely heading for the bumps for the entertainment

[honda93]

Originally Posted by JDMReddy

.... ummm....

Dude, I'm not a 400# man with a GG cup.

[Sirbelch]

Im 5'11" 165 an even I have a big A cup that giggles a little.

[JDMReddy]

Originally Posted by Sirbelch

Im 5'11" 165 an even I have a big A cup that giggles a little.

6' flat 145 lbs i wouldn't know what thats like... haha no man boobs just a training bra lmao

Quote:
Originally Posted by jrotax101
they make road trips even better too.. added in car entertainment over bumps. just don't let her catch you watching them bounce

Lmao NICE

anyone realize that this is so on topic... this is suspension thery @ its best!

[Hot_Chocalate25]

Quick simple question.. Would it be better to have more negative camber in the front or more negative camber in the rear? I already saw two different answers to this.

[jrotax101]

If you want to die and burst into flames when attempting to turn, run 0 camber up front and -5 in the rear.

If you'd like the car to handle well, run -1.5F/-1.0R and 0 toe, maybe 1/32 toe out up front if you want to be more aggressive.

Hope this answers your question.

[Hot_Chocalate25]

ok thanks alot! in the first couple of pages of this thread someone stated that more negative in the back was better but thanks for clearing that up for me.

i was suggested to do -2 up front and -1.5 rear with 1/32 toe out front just like you said but i think ill do what you said and go with .5 less since its more of a daily driver.

[jrotax101]

even on rwd cars, more negative camber up front is normally the case.. on m3 race cars they run about -3.5F/-2.8R

my track settings are -3/-2.5

You'd probably notice better turn in with the toe rather than the extra .5 degree of camber up front however.

Moose, i see you lurking - please correct me if i'm wrong

[Highrev1]

Run about 1/2 the camber in the rear as in front....Due to the camber gain of the rear suspension..WHO said More neg camber in back?

[disboiflaco]

im getting enkei rpf1 17x8, i dont know what size tires to get, im really low. the tires need to be R-compounds, i will be running at a local race track next season. any idea what tire sizes would fit without rubbing? my quarter panel is covering my tire by .75" and the front by .5". i have stock tires and rims 2 the moment.

[CanyonDriver]

Originally Posted by disboiflaco

im getting enkei rpf1 17x8, i dont know what size tires to get, im really low. the tires need to be R-compounds, i will be running at a local race track next season. any idea what tire sizes would fit without rubbing? my quarter panel is covering my tire by .75" and the front by .5". i have stock tires and rims 2 the moment.

what offset are your wheels?

[jrotax101]

Originally Posted by disboiflaco

im getting enkei rpf1 17x8, i dont know what size tires to get, im really low. the tires need to be R-compounds, i will be running at a local race track next season. any idea what tire sizes would fit without rubbing? my quarter panel is covering my tire by .75" and the front by .5". i have stock tires and rims 2 the moment.

raise the car up to a height that will work properly, and run 235/40/17

[Sirbelch]

Over lowering, especially in the front is going to cause poor suspension geometry and cause the car to handle poorly.

[ebdiam]

Originally Posted by CanyonDriver

what offset are your wheels?

the offset for the Enkei RPF1's 17x8 is +45mm

These are the same wheels I want, i hear they are fine even if you are lowered around 2" +/-

[CanyonDriver]

Originally Posted by ebdiam

the offset for the Enkei RPF1's 17x8 is +45mm

These are the same wheels I want, i hear they are fine even if you are lowered around 2" +/-

the RPF1's come in more than 1 offset in 17x8

[Strate L O S S]

hey is this thread still active ?

i have a few questions, ive done plenty of research and gained knowledge in the suspension world. but still would like some reasurance from the pro's that cruise this section.

i currently have a 2008 civic lx coupe with all stock suspension and tires.i purchased stock SI complete suspension. purchased a stock SI rear sway bar(ups currently has it) and 1 set of spc front camber bolts from clubrsx(usps currently has them). and i will purchase a stock SI front sway bar as soon as my orders come in the mail.

now im having a dilema with a few things, i plan on purchasing rsx type -s 17". as soon as i get the suspension installed i will begin a search and hopefully get them with tires within 2 weeks after install.(for alignment purposes)

issue #1- i know i will get the urge to lower the car once the rims are installed and would prefer to do it all in one shot, the problem is stock si spring compression is 200lbs per inch. most of the aftermarket springs are softer which seems to completely miss the point of lowering a car. i know my lx is lighter than an SI so i will not need as much spring compression, prolem is i do not want to be softer than stock(which will probably be equivolent to my lx) id like an equal amount to stiffness but with a 1" drop

can anyone recommend a drop spring(other than custom order since im trying to stay within a tight budget)that will give me 1" in the front and 1" or so in the rear and retain the stock (si) stiffness

issue#2- since i have stock si dampers and they are going on an lx, when i order the springs do i order for for the Si or Lx ?? lol may seem obvious to order lx but i dont know the difference in height between stock SI and stock LX dampers since my stock lx dampers are still are the car.

thanks alot for readin through this blab , and it may seem like im completely noob to suspension but i got the theory pretty much downpack and would just like to see if any flags are thrown that im not thinking up.

thanks in advace
-Victor


:edit: please id like only serious response's from people with knowledge in this criteria, not really looking for the i thinks and it should's. :edit:

oh and def no "should have bought an si" seeing as ive only spent about $260 for springs sways and front camber

[Sirbelch]

HFP, did you look at that? If you did go that route, your Si suspension purchase would be a waste, but it seems like it would best match your needs. I would have suggested it earlier, but I didn't want you to feel bad about your suspension purchase.

In light of that, Ground Control. Look them up. They have a TON of spring rates available. Maybe you could talk to Redshift and get their hardware, which I think works better than the GC hardware.

[Strate L O S S]

thanks for the fast response, i forgot to mention in the above post that my car is only daily driven and hfp is is more than i would like to spend for just springs and dampers. i got the stock si setup for $100 for the springs and dampers, 35$ for the rear bar and will pay w/e the dealers charges for the front sway. it wound up being the logical choice.

i asked you questions on other posts about camber so ill avoid that here.

about the springs, Si springs or non Si springs? do you recommend a vendor ?