Dampers Springs Coilovers!!!

Highrev1 · 05-12-2007, 12:26 AM

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Toxis · 05-12-2007, 12:45 AM

Great write up! Now with all that, GET KONI TO GET OFF THEIR ASS AND RELEASE SOME PRODUCTS! Hell, I'm ready for my Ground Control sleeves but they only work with OEM struts and won't work with the Koni's when they are released so I'd be forced to buy another sleeve setup. Not cool. What is your recommendation then? I don't want to rebuy but don't want to wait 3 months.

Blk4drSI · 05-12-2007, 12:55 AM

Thats good info man. And I think that you are absolutely right. I have custom tuned bilsteins that were made for a Dakota R/T that was lowered with hotckis suspension. It seriously rode as good as stock and handled as well as my stock Si. Thats what I want in my car. I just done know where to begin.

j'sFG2 · 05-12-2007, 01:18 AM

wow, nice write-up, thank you.

Highrev1 · 05-12-2007, 01:22 AM

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Toxis · 05-12-2007, 02:36 AM

What's the word from Koni?

Plus, I told Matt at RedShift to go ahead and ship me the GC's for stock... 3 days ago. Still no response.

Jay Kincannon · 05-12-2007, 03:38 AM

Someone finally knows suspension. Here's a question I wanted to ask for a long time. I was under the impression that a "true" coilover set-up is as follows. (1) Front struts with springs over the strut and (2) Rear shocks with springs over the shock (not to the side). Is this correct and if so, why is the term "coilover" used to described the these different products that are not. please enlighten us. Thanks !!!

Blk4drSI · 05-12-2007, 12:31 PM

^^Thats what I thought, the coilover suspension kits for jeeps and other 4wd trucks or as he described.

Highrev1 · 05-12-2007, 01:34 PM

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Blk4drSI · 05-13-2007, 03:39 AM

exactly, thats why Im just going to get the Eibach pro kit and wait on some shocks to become available.

Harry · 05-13-2007, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Toxis

Great write up! Now with all that, GET KONI TO GET OFF THEIR ASS AND RELEASE SOME PRODUCTS! Hell, I'm ready for my Ground Control sleeves but they only work with OEM struts and won't work with the Koni's when they are released so I'd be forced to buy another sleeve setup. Not cool. What is your recommendation then? I don't want to rebuy but don't want to wait 3 months.

They dont work with Koni's? I thought they did...I was planning on Ground Controls and Koni Yellows.

Highrev1 · 05-13-2007, 06:59 PM

They will once Koni releases their dampers for the si. For now their only out for stock dampers.

reaper702 · 05-13-2007, 07:08 PM

very valuable information about coilovers and suspension

+rep

Toxis · 05-13-2007, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry

They dont work with Koni's? I thought they did...I was planning on Ground Controls and Koni Yellows.

According to what Ground Control told Matt at RedShift, the current kit will only work with OEM struts. So when you want to get some Yellows, you'll need to order a new GC kit. I'm not happy right now.

2000civic · 05-13-2007, 11:36 PM

+1 for the great write up! This furthered me in the direction to go with Ground Control, and Koni Yellows. I have never tracked, however I would like to one day, and only want the best for my car, so it looks like this is the right path.

Toxis · 05-14-2007, 05:41 PM

I ordered the GC's for OEM. Maybe someday I'll upgrade to HFP shocks... we'll see.

Toxis · 05-15-2007, 03:15 AM

so they're shipping now so I went ahead and ordered a set of Skunk2 camber kits from everyone's favorite JDM-in-stock. Great price too!!!

King Bob · 05-15-2007, 06:30 PM

very good info and thats coming from a guy running coilovers and really enjoys them, at least with my set up I was able to select my spring rates.

***CaliGuy*** · 05-15-2007, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Toxis

Great write up! Now with all that, GET KONI TO GET OFF THEIR ASS AND RELEASE SOME PRODUCTS! Hell, I'm ready for my Ground Control sleeves but they only work with OEM struts and won't work with the Koni's when they are released so I'd be forced to buy another sleeve setup. Not cool. What is your recommendation then? I don't want to rebuy but don't want to wait 3 months.

Word! Koni "yellows" FTMFW!

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05-12-2007, 12:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
Toxis Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Italy Of Course! Age: 29 Posts: 3,799 Even Women Aren't Safe iTrader: 10 / 100%	Great write up! Now with all that, GET KONI TO GET OFF THEIR ASS AND RELEASE SOME PRODUCTS! Hell, I'm ready for my Ground Control sleeves but they only work with OEM struts and won't work with the Koni's when they are released so I'd be forced to buy another sleeve setup. Not cool. What is your recommendation then? I don't want to rebuy but don't want to wait 3 months.

05-12-2007, 12:55 AM	#3 (permalink)
Blk4drSI Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: GA Posts: 457 Jason iTrader: 1 / 100%	Thats good info man. And I think that you are absolutely right. I have custom tuned bilsteins that were made for a Dakota R/T that was lowered with hotckis suspension. It seriously rode as good as stock and handled as well as my stock Si. Thats what I want in my car. I just done know where to begin.

05-12-2007, 01:18 AM	#4 (permalink)
j'sFG2 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Baton Rouge Age: 21 Posts: 663 Jay iTrader: 0 / 0%	wow, nice write-up, thank you.

05-12-2007, 01:22 AM	#5 (permalink)
Highrev1 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PM me NothernNJ Installs/Details Posts: 3,801 iTrader: 1 / 100%	delete

05-12-2007, 02:36 AM	#6 (permalink)
Toxis Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Italy Of Course! Age: 29 Posts: 3,799 Even Women Aren't Safe iTrader: 10 / 100%	What's the word from Koni? Plus, I told Matt at RedShift to go ahead and ship me the GC's for stock... 3 days ago. Still no response.

05-12-2007, 03:38 AM	#7 (permalink)
Jay Kincannon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 934 iTrader: 2 / 100%	Someone finally knows suspension. Here's a question I wanted to ask for a long time. I was under the impression that a "true" coilover set-up is as follows. (1) Front struts with springs over the strut and (2) Rear shocks with springs over the shock (not to the side). Is this correct and if so, why is the term "coilover" used to described the these different products that are not. please enlighten us. Thanks !!!

05-12-2007, 12:31 PM	#8 (permalink)
Blk4drSI Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: GA Posts: 457 Jason iTrader: 1 / 100%	^^Thats what I thought, the coilover suspension kits for jeeps and other 4wd trucks or as he described.

05-12-2007, 01:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
Highrev1 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PM me NothernNJ Installs/Details Posts: 3,801 iTrader: 1 / 100%	delete

05-13-2007, 03:39 AM	#10 (permalink)
Blk4drSI Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: GA Posts: 457 Jason iTrader: 1 / 100%	exactly, thats why Im just going to get the Eibach pro kit and wait on some shocks to become available.

05-13-2007, 06:59 PM	#12 (permalink)
Highrev1 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PM me NothernNJ Installs/Details Posts: 3,801 iTrader: 1 / 100%	They will once Koni releases their dampers for the si. For now their only out for stock dampers.

05-13-2007, 07:08 PM	#13 (permalink)
reaper702 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sin City Age: 21 Posts: 4,261 iTrader: 8 / 100%	very valuable information about coilovers and suspension +rep

05-13-2007, 11:36 PM	#15 (permalink)
2000civic Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Rancho Cucamunga,California Age: 20 Posts: 1,576 Robert iTrader: 0 / 0%	+1 for the great write up! This furthered me in the direction to go with Ground Control, and Koni Yellows. I have never tracked, however I would like to one day, and only want the best for my car, so it looks like this is the right path.

05-14-2007, 05:41 PM	#16 (permalink)
Toxis Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Italy Of Course! Age: 29 Posts: 3,799 Even Women Aren't Safe iTrader: 10 / 100%	I ordered the GC's for OEM. Maybe someday I'll upgrade to HFP shocks... we'll see.

05-15-2007, 03:15 AM	#17 (permalink)
Toxis Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Italy Of Course! Age: 29 Posts: 3,799 Even Women Aren't Safe iTrader: 10 / 100%	so they're shipping now so I went ahead and ordered a set of Skunk2 camber kits from everyone's favorite JDM-in-stock. Great price too!!!

05-15-2007, 06:30 PM	#18 (permalink)
King Bob Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Age: 26 Posts: 495 Houma, Louisiana iTrader: 1 / 100%	very good info and thats coming from a guy running coilovers and really enjoys them, at least with my set up I was able to select my spring rates.