Anyone using the 30mm Front Progress Sway Bar?

[1bgtoy]

Tried to order this bar for my civic and they called and told me progress pulled them all from the shelves. They had to rework them do to some problem and they wouldn't be available for another 3-4 wks.

[brthorner]

I'm glad to see such a lively discussion regarding the theories behind why one would upgrade to a stiffer front bar, however my initial inquiry was geared towards testimonials of people who actually have the front 30mm bar. Since I'm pretty sure it's not even available yet, if anyone who is currently using the 22mm rear bar winds up getting the 30mm front bar, please post a review of the differences that it made, both positive and negative.

Thanks!

Brian

[Sirbelch]

I dont think i would get the front bar. The stock Si front bar is f ing huge as is. The rear bar is a must though. I might get a complete front/rear set from Hotchkis because they are a hallow bar that will be lighter and stiffer than stock at the same diameters, if they are even make them. The Hotchkis Competition set for the RSX is 25.4mm and 27mm in there rear. Hotchkis said that it is a 59 or 71% increase in stiffness in the front and 202 or 220% increase in stiffness in the rear. I might get a set with those numbers for my Si. All i do know, is im a gonna wait to see what people say cause im really not in the market for a sway bar set just yet.

[Highrev1]

OK I run the LX front bar on my SI and I absoutly LOVE it. I wish I could find a like a 15mm bar.

[Andrei'sCivic]

Originally Posted by Highrev1

OK I run the LX front bar on my SI and I absoutly LOVE it. I wish I could find a like a 15mm bar.

Man... whatever. Sacraficing turn in response for less understeer/more oversteer. I would just stiffen the rear, I wouldn't want to downgrade my bar like that.
Ha, why not go all the way and remove your front anti-sway bar? Try that.

[Highrev1]

Originally Posted by Andrei'sCivic

Man... whatever. Sacraficing turn in response for less understeer/more oversteer. I would just stiffen the rear, I wouldn't want to downgrade my bar like that.
Ha, why not go all the way and remove your front anti-sway bar? Try that.

I already have run without a front bar thanks. You can read here why a smaller front bar can be more benifical to tuning a suspension.
Anyone using the 30mm Front Progress Sway Bar?

[RWatters]

Originally Posted by Andrei'sCivic

Man... whatever. Sacraficing turn in response for less understeer/more oversteer. I would just stiffen the rear, I wouldn't want to downgrade my bar like that.
Ha, why not go all the way and remove your front anti-sway bar? Try that.

Front wheel drive cars have the most problems when coming out of a corner, not going in. You can enter a corner as fast as you want but if you can't leave it you'll only get left in the dust on a track.

For autocrossing in some serious class-spec'd vehicles they actually do that. A member on here autocrossed a Civic hatch for quite some time in a prepared category and actually ran without no front sway bar whatsoever. It works, but I wouldn't do it unless the car is ONLY purpose built for track/autocross use and doesn't see any daily driving.

My appologies to the OP for kind of mucking up the thread. If you want to buy one by all means buy one, but it's not the best modification to your car.

[cappykd]

Originally Posted by RWatters

I would skip on the Corsport endlinks and pick up the Hotchkis tunable ones. They are a better design, they won't make noise, and they're a concealed unit so you don't have to worry about dust and rocks destroying them. They are a little more costly, but well-worth the extra $20 or so for each set.

They can be had at Tirerack's website, you just have to search for the RSX Type-S or Subaru Impreza to find them. They are identical to ours, though.

If you want the best handling, pick up a set of springs that only lower the car about an inch at the most. I'm not sure which ones there are for that, but H-Tech and HFP are some options. Any lower than that and you're starting to get to a point where the car may actually handle slightly worse because the car is so much lower without the proper spring rates that the suspension can't act as quickly and as predictable as it could sitting higher. I'm quite the hypocrite by saying that since I have Tein S-Tech's, but it's the truth.

The camber kits could/should help a lot especially given the whack-ass 2 degrees of rear camber we have stock. Around -1 up front and -0.5 in the rear would help, with toe being set at zero for front and rear. That's a good basic alignment setup that will compliment the rest.

I'm not sure how in-depth you want to go with this, but that would be a great basic (and rather cost-effective) setup that could really help to transform this car even more. I say cost-effective because you can pick up most of this for the price of a nice set of coil-overs itself.

What happened? You were anti-Hotchkis and Pro Corsport in my Thread back in November?

New Greasable Ball Joint End Links

[RWatters]

Originally Posted by cappykd

What happened? You were anti-Hotchkis and Pro Corsport in my Thread back in November?

New Greasable Ball Joint End Links

Please find where I am anti-Hotchkis in that reply! I'm not, I just simply said that my "inferior" endlinks were working perfectly fine since you made them sound like a pretty bad piece of equipment.

One of the endlinks ended up breaking but that was as a result of my stupid ass not installing the swaybar correctly the first time around. Outside of that they worked great and never made any noise.

I never said that they were better than the Hotchkis ones, though. If anything, they aren't and I agree with you that the Hotchkis are a much nicer unit. I had a set ordered for my car that I ended up selling off (was going to get rid of the car), and in the future I plan on buying another set of them.

[Highrev1]

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[Andrei'sCivic]

For all those drivers like "Highrev1" if you want a smaller bar up front and a much larger bar in the rear check out Hotchkis sway bar kit:
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

[Htuner34]

i just got an e-mail from Progress Technology "The front sway bar will not be released until mid-summer at the soonest"

[1bgtoy]

I hope its not until mid summer on this product. I am wanting to get my suspension done to enjoy for the summer

[Htuner34]

lol ya...unfortunatly i think thats what its gonna be

[blaznhot_23]

Originally Posted by Andrei'sCivic

For all those drivers like "Highrev1" if you want a smaller bar up front and a much larger bar in the rear check out Hotchkis sway bar kit:
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

has anyone bought this kit yet???

[Highrev1]

THat kit seems to be for 02-05 si and the rsx.