Will Honda give me my old suspension!!!

BigDinPhilly · 01-23-2007, 01:31 AM

hey everyone im new to the best website ever and i got my new tw si w/ navi comin in by the end of the month.. im gettin the fogs and the hfp full aerokit installed..im also gettin the hfp suspension installed...MY QUESTION IS..should i get my original suspension back cause i want it...shit im spending like 25k so i want everything..are they gonna give me shit about it or play stupid so they can sell my other suspension, also having the other suspension will be proof that it was installed!! also is there any sure signs u know the job has been done right or any certain question i should have for them cause they didnt even know about the fkin hfp suspension as an upgrade i was the first to tell the dealer around me about it....so im a little skeptical....THANKS GUYZ!!!
Dom

sf-si-02 · 01-23-2007, 01:42 AM

depends on the dealer... here is a bad dealer

http://cgi.ebay.com/Used-OEM-06-07-H...QQcmdZViewItem

8thgenuser · 01-23-2007, 01:47 AM

Right, depends on the dealer. I'd say that most dealers WON'T give you the old parts. That's why they love selling you all these options...they basically get to double dip on profits. They make money off of the part they sold you and they make money off the part they took out from your car. Unless you have it in writing that they'll give you the old parts, they're as good as gone.

BigDinPhilly · 01-23-2007, 01:59 AM

should i do it myself then!!! or has anyone been in this situation??

8thgenuser · 01-23-2007, 02:07 AM

Yeah, you can get the suspension done elsewhere, but if you get it done at the dealer before you take delivery of the car, it's all covered in your bumper-to-bumper warranty. That's the nice thing about having your dealer install it.

**dentrecords** · 01-23-2007, 09:47 AM

I don't see how they could legally steal your personal property.. you paid for it, so why would they have a right to keep it?

skittleslegend · 01-23-2007, 09:55 AM

Why not just order the HFP suspension instead of having the dealer install it right then and there? Bring the package in at a later date and request to have it installed. They should then ask you if you want the old parts back. Tell them yes. Problem solved.

Are you trying to roll it all into your payments?

MellowGato · 01-23-2007, 10:26 AM

Just make sure it says that you will get your parts back in the sales slip/contract. That way you have it in writing. Even if you have to write it in yourself before you sign the paperwork. A reputable dealer will have no problems giving you back your parts.

sf-si-02 · 01-23-2007, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8thgenuser

Yeah, you can get the suspension done elsewhere, but if you get it done at the dealer before you take delivery of the car, it's all covered in your bumper-to-bumper warranty. That's the nice thing about having your dealer install it.

Well, I just installed my hfp suspension on Sunday, and it comes with a sticker you put in the back of your manual. I bought my car in sf and live in LA, so I plan on telling the la hoinda dealer that it came installed on the car

BigDinPhilly · 01-23-2007, 02:42 PM

yea im tryin to roll it into my payments

MaXaZoR · 01-23-2007, 02:56 PM

Part of the reason I bought my car where I did was because they offered to give me all my factory parts back when I opted for the HFP PLUS winter tires, and another dealship said they wouldn't give me anything back. When I asked the second dealership, how they could justify me paying for aftermarket parts and not getting the stock parts(rightfully mine). The salesman stated that HFP kit was not a factory option and therefore I should not get the factory parts back

I called bull and just walked out the door

IMO if a dealer wants to try a screw you on the initial deal, who knows what else they are capable of, and its your responsibility as the consumer use your right and just walk out.

catchx34 · 01-23-2007, 04:04 PM

i would take delivery and then have them install the parts later on so that u can request keeping the stock parts. If you have them install them before u take delivery its good as gone. But make sure you have it in writing that the price you paid includes the installation and parts.

**dentrecords** · 01-23-2007, 04:19 PM

It doesn't matter whether you get accessories (HFP suspension IS an accessory) when you buy the car or whether you do it a week after. You paid for a car, and that car came with a suspension. They have no right to steal your original parts when you paid for them to install the accessories (replacement parts) for you, that's outright theft. The only thing I could see was if they worked something out where they bought the stock parts off you in exchange for money off the deal.. read your sales contract closely.

**NBPRudy** · 01-23-2007, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dentrecords

It doesn't matter whether you get accessories (HFP suspension IS an accessory) when you buy the car or whether you do it a week after. You paid for a car, and that car came with a suspension. They have no right to steal your original parts when you paid for them to install the accessories (replacement parts) for you, that's outright theft. The only thing I could see was if they worked something out where they bought the stock parts off you in exchange for money off the deal.. read your sales contract closely.

+1 I totally agree.

Caper · 01-23-2007, 10:30 PM

They're your parts... Just like when you order HFP wheels with it... the regular wheels are yours as well.

Nexx · 02-05-2007, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dentrecords

It doesn't matter whether you get accessories (HFP suspension IS an accessory) when you buy the car or whether you do it a week after. You paid for a car, and that car came with a suspension. They have no right to steal your original parts when you paid for them to install the accessories (replacement parts) for you, that's outright theft. The only thing I could see was if they worked something out where they bought the stock parts off you in exchange for money off the deal.. read your sales contract closely.

Agreed. Got my OEM SI suspension back.

MaXaZoR · 02-05-2007, 10:01 AM

Unfortunately not all dealers behave ethically, I have met at least three Si owners with HFP kit that did not get they're stock suspension back, two bought from the same dealership I walked away from. Currently at least 1 has gone back a requested the stock rims/suspension with little/no luck. To all potential buyers, make sure you stress this point to the dealership before you make payments, because after your negoitating leverage point goes out the window.

codys8thcivicsi · 02-05-2007, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8thgenuser

Yeah, you can get the suspension done elsewhere, but if you get it done at the dealer before you take delivery of the car, it's all covered in your bumper-to-bumper warranty. That's the nice thing about having your dealer install it.

agree

BigDinPhilly · 02-28-2007, 12:21 AM

they gave me the stock suspension back

HeLLz aNgeL · 02-28-2007, 12:10 PM

a bit off topic, but since he's trying to roll it into his payments, can he go back AFTER getting the car, having the stuff installed and put em on his payments ???

if yes, hell, im heading to a dealer to get my hfp kit right away !

01-23-2007, 01:31 AM	#1 (permalink)
BigDinPhilly Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 23 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Will Honda give me my old suspension!!! hey everyone im new to the best website ever and i got my new tw si w/ navi comin in by the end of the month.. im gettin the fogs and the hfp full aerokit installed..im also gettin the hfp suspension installed...MY QUESTION IS..should i get my original suspension back cause i want it...shit im spending like 25k so i want everything..are they gonna give me shit about it or play stupid so they can sell my other suspension, also having the other suspension will be proof that it was installed!! also is there any sure signs u know the job has been done right or any certain question i should have for them cause they didnt even know about the fkin hfp suspension as an upgrade i was the first to tell the dealer around me about it....so im a little skeptical....THANKS GUYZ!!! Dom

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01-23-2007, 01:42 AM	#2 (permalink)
sf-si-02 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: your mom (so cal) Posts: 630 iTrader: 3 / 100%	depends on the dealer... here is a bad dealer http://cgi.ebay.com/Used-OEM-06-07-H...QQcmdZViewItem

01-23-2007, 01:47 AM	#3 (permalink)
8thgenuser Webby's Minion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 7,065 Nikon Squad Member #8 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Right, depends on the dealer. I'd say that most dealers WON'T give you the old parts. That's why they love selling you all these options...they basically get to double dip on profits. They make money off of the part they sold you and they make money off the part they took out from your car. Unless you have it in writing that they'll give you the old parts, they're as good as gone.

01-23-2007, 01:59 AM	#4 (permalink)
BigDinPhilly Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 23 iTrader: 0 / 0%	should i do it myself then!!! or has anyone been in this situation??

01-23-2007, 02:07 AM	#5 (permalink)
8thgenuser Webby's Minion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 7,065 Nikon Squad Member #8 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Yeah, you can get the suspension done elsewhere, but if you get it done at the dealer before you take delivery of the car, it's all covered in your bumper-to-bumper warranty. That's the nice thing about having your dealer install it.

01-23-2007, 09:55 AM	#7 (permalink)
skittleslegend Senior Member Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Stowe, Vermont Age: 23 Posts: 7,825 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Why not just order the HFP suspension instead of having the dealer install it right then and there? Bring the package in at a later date and request to have it installed. They should then ask you if you want the old parts back. Tell them yes. Problem solved. Are you trying to roll it all into your payments?

01-23-2007, 10:26 AM	#8 (permalink)
MellowGato Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: in the slow lane Posts: 537 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Just make sure it says that you will get your parts back in the sales slip/contract. That way you have it in writing. Even if you have to write it in yourself before you sign the paperwork. A reputable dealer will have no problems giving you back your parts.

01-23-2007, 02:42 PM	#10 (permalink)
BigDinPhilly Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 23 iTrader: 0 / 0%	yea im tryin to roll it into my payments

01-23-2007, 02:56 PM	#11 (permalink)
MaXaZoR Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: North NJ Posts: 547 iTrader: 5 / 100%	Part of the reason I bought my car where I did was because they offered to give me all my factory parts back when I opted for the HFP PLUS winter tires, and another dealship said they wouldn't give me anything back. When I asked the second dealership, how they could justify me paying for aftermarket parts and not getting the stock parts(rightfully mine). The salesman stated that HFP kit was not a factory option and therefore I should not get the factory parts back I called bull and just walked out the door IMO if a dealer wants to try a screw you on the initial deal, who knows what else they are capable of, and its your responsibility as the consumer use your right and just walk out.

01-23-2007, 04:04 PM	#12 (permalink)
catchx34 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: MD Posts: 245 iTrader: 0 / 0%	i would take delivery and then have them install the parts later on so that u can request keeping the stock parts. If you have them install them before u take delivery its good as gone. But make sure you have it in writing that the price you paid includes the installation and parts.

01-23-2007, 10:30 PM	#15 (permalink)
Caper Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Nova Scotia and Ontario Age: 21 Posts: 920 iTrader: 10 / 100%	They're your parts... Just like when you order HFP wheels with it... the regular wheels are yours as well.

02-05-2007, 10:01 AM	#17 (permalink)
MaXaZoR Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: North NJ Posts: 547 iTrader: 5 / 100%	Unfortunately not all dealers behave ethically, I have met at least three Si owners with HFP kit that did not get they're stock suspension back, two bought from the same dealership I walked away from. Currently at least 1 has gone back a requested the stock rims/suspension with little/no luck. To all potential buyers, make sure you stress this point to the dealership before you make payments, because after your negoitating leverage point goes out the window.

02-28-2007, 12:21 AM	#19 (permalink)
BigDinPhilly Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 23 iTrader: 0 / 0%	they gave me the stock suspension back

02-28-2007, 12:10 PM	#20 (permalink)
HeLLz aNgeL Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 105 iTrader: 0 / 0%	a bit off topic, but since he's trying to roll it into his payments, can he go back AFTER getting the car, having the stuff installed and put em on his payments ??? if yes, hell, im heading to a dealer to get my hfp kit right away !