hmmm...you think they fit??

[jdm8thgen]

strut braces. its pretty tight under there. im sure the rear would work. nothing like some CUSCO strut bars.

[Xenin]

i didnt see anywhere that you could put a strut bar from the engine bay pics.

[hondagrl]

you see any room for an intake ?? or is there "always" room for an intake ??

[iwu]

you have to remove the cowl to get to the strut towers

going to be a pain in the butt for anyone to change out springs/shocks.

[jdm8thgen]

i cant see the manifold...the intake tubing looks like its running to the fron... but i know thais wrong. i wonde5r why it doesnt run li d/b/h-seies motors did. from manifold to the front fender down into the bumper. sine the r18 stil has the exhaust manifold up front.

[iwu]

the car comes with a front stabilizer bar already, it's 24.2 mm thick, the rear is 10mm thick

it's just not mounted on the strut towers but down below

[robbclark1]

Originally Posted by iwu

the car comes with a front stabilizer bar already, it's 24.2 mm thick, the rear is 10mm thick

it's just not mounted on the strut towers but down below

strut bars and sway bars are two different things buddy...

I don't think you can fit a strut bar without taking of that plastic piece, which will look stupid. Besides, the struts are so close to the firewall that a strut bar won't do much anyway because the car should be stiff there.

[jdm8thgen]

ill just buy a oem si swaybar from a guy that upgrades their sway bar. si sway on an ex is a major opgrade. big bars for the ex when the ex weighs 2-300lbs less than the si.

[robbclark1]

Originally Posted by jdm8thgen

ill just buy a oem si swaybar from a guy that upgrades their sway bar. si sway on an ex is a major opgrade. big bars for the ex when the ex weighs 2-300lbs less than the si.

what are you talking about? You mean the rear sway? Are you sure that the front or the rear will fit on the new civic?

[Kyle23]

the strut bar looks near to impossiable because the tower is located under the glass. I'm sure they will make an intake for this but the car doenst look very DIY freindly

[jdm8thgen]

why wouldnt the 06 si sway fit the 06 ex bro? i no u dont think i ment the 02-05 si

[robbclark1]

The rear si should work on any of the coupes, but I don't know about sedans. The sedans have a different wheel base, but should have the same rear suspension. In theory it should fit, but I couldn't tell you without looking. The front may or may not fit depending on where the cats are.

[iwu]

Originally Posted by robbclark1

strut bars and sway bars are two different things buddy...

I don't think you can fit a strut bar without taking of that plastic piece, which will look stupid. Besides, the struts are so close to the firewall that a strut bar won't do much anyway because the car should be stiff there.

I know they are different, I don't see where I said otherwise.

And strut bars don't do much anyway except make the car push out more, which you don't really want unless you are correcting severe oversteer.

[robbclark1]

Originally Posted by iwu

I know they are different, I don't see where I said otherwise.

And strut bars don't do much anyway except make the car push out more, which you don't really want unless you are correcting severe oversteer.

the car comes with a front stabilizer bar already, it's 24.2 mm thick, the rear is 10mm thick

it's just not mounted on the strut towers but down below

Strut bars and sway bars do two different things....Strut bars are chassis reinforcement and have nothing to do with under/oversteer. The topic of the thread is about a STRUT bar not a STABILIZER (antiroll/sway bar).

From what I know,
1) There doesn't appear to be enough room for a front strut bar. Unless DC sports makes one that comes into the engine bay, but then it would be pointless.
2) Rear strut bars probably won't do much if they kept a similar rear suspension set up as the 7thgen
3) Rear SWAY bars should be swappable from coupes and Si's. Sedans SHOULD work, but they have a different wheel base.
4) Front sway bars should be swappable from different civics, but the Si one may or may not fit depending on where the k20 cat is in relation to the R18 cat(s).

[iwu]

Thanks again for telling me that are 2 different things...

My point is that there really isn't a NEED for a strut bar

[eluwak]

Supposedly a strut bar helps tighten things up again when a large rear swaybar is installed. I'm used to running a large swaybar in the rear and never used a front strut brace but it might help... I still think it's mostly placebo.

[robbclark1]

Originally Posted by iwu

Thanks again for telling me that are 2 different things...

My point is that there really isn't a NEED for a strut bar

I know there isn't a need for one, but whatever...

[wheelconnector]

Originally Posted by jdm8thgen

i cant see the manifold...the intake tubing looks like its running to the fron... but i know thais wrong. i wonde5r why it doesnt run li d/b/h-seies motors did. from manifold to the front fender down into the bumper. sine the r18 stil has the exhaust manifold up front.

"Honda also designed a special short, single cast-aluminum intake manifold for the Si with an extra-large 70mm intake duct. Honda says it boosts high-rpm power and is partly responsible for the car's unique sound. To enhance that sound the intake duct was routed inside the fender to take advantage of the body panel's acoustics. According to Honda, the panel amplifies the intake sound, which is probably why we could hear the Si ripping down the back straight from pit road." -edmunds.com

[Tommy Tran]

jdm8thgen
i cant see the manifold...the intake tubing looks like its running to the fron... but i know thais wrong. i wonde5r why it doesnt run li d/b/h-seies motors did. from manifold to the front fender down into the bumper. sine the r18 stil has the exhaust manifold up front.


You are right the R18 motor is still a backwards rotation motor... Its not the same as the Kseries which do have the IM on the front side of the engine... the intake mani and TB are still in the back... there is a hotwire MAF sensor built into the top portion of the airbox that will make adding an intake a lil tricky... you could get a piece of pipe between the airbox and the TB and another down off the airbox to the fender well area but I think the gains would be minimal and you might be better off spending $ on a drop-in K&N or similar...

Back on topic... Swap the rear sway bar with an Si version... Front strut bar... waste of $... the struts are already mounted in a stiff-ass firewall!

Chances are the body mounts are the same size as the out goin car(EM2/7thgen) so a set of polyurethane bushings for the rear sway would further enhance its body roll control abilities... someone could double check that the bushings fit...

Peace

[robbclark1]

Originally Posted by Tommy Tran

jdm8thgen
i cant see the manifold...the intake tubing looks like its running to the fron... but i know thais wrong. i wonde5r why it doesnt run li d/b/h-seies motors did. from manifold to the front fender down into the bumper. sine the r18 stil has the exhaust manifold up front.


You are right the R18 motor is still a backwards rotation motor... Its not the same as the Kseries which do have the IM on the front side of the engine... the intake mani and TB are still in the back... there is a hotwire MAF sensor built into the top portion of the airbox that will make adding an intake a lil tricky... you could get a piece of pipe between the airbox and the TB and another down off the airbox to the fender well area but I think the gains would be minimal and you might be better off spending $ on a drop-in K&N or similar...

Back on topic... Swap the rear sway bar with an Si version... Front strut bar... waste of $... the struts are already mounted in a stiff-ass firewall!

Chances are the body mounts are the same size as the out goin car(EM2/7thgen) so a set of polyurethane bushings for the rear sway would further enhance its body roll control abilities... someone could double check that the bushings fit...

Peace

bushings are universal for sways.