i got away without camber kit.

***darna*** · 12-06-2006, 10:14 PM

lowered my car a week ago and since then i've been in search of a good alignment shops but haven't had any luck till now.

i called about 12 shops in my area and everybody told me i need camber kit to be able to align my wheel.

finally came across a guy who works at honda parts dept. and hook me up to a place w/c specializes on lowered cars. asked the guy if i need a kit and he answered it's ok to have one but not required and can work w/o it and save u some money. i could sense he's the real deal and knows what he's talking bout...

so if u can't afford to buy camber kits i just want you guys to know it's ok not to have one.

also, feel free to oppose this post if u think running w/o camber kit is gonna harm the car.

duy2006si · 12-06-2006, 10:21 PM

I don't think it will harm the car, it also depends how low you dropped it. But you will get uneven tread wear which is never good.

JeShUa · 12-07-2006, 01:35 AM

shouldnt good tire rotation counter uneven tread wear...
just dont let that toe creep up on you.. an alignment is your friend :]

junsu · 12-07-2006, 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darna

lowered my car a week ago and since then i've been in search of a good alignment shops but haven't had any luck till now.

i called about 12 shops in my area and everybody told me i need camber kit to be able to align my wheel.

finally came across a guy who works at honda parts dept. and hook me up to a place w/c specializes on lowered cars. asked the guy if i need a kit and he answered it's ok to have one but not required and can work w/o it and save u some money. i could sense he's the real deal and knows what he's talking bout...

so if u can't afford to buy camber kits i just want you guys to know it's ok not to have one.

also, feel free to oppose this post if u think running w/o camber kit is gonna harm the car.

can you tell me who/where this place is? i lowered my car a week ago, too, and have been looking to get my car aligned soon. youre in the southbay, right?

***eugenekim.net*** · 12-07-2006, 02:08 AM

maybe if you're only into lowering a car for looks and uneven tire wear...

rdss · 12-07-2006, 07:02 AM

I was wondering if the HFP spring needed the kit. Does anyone with the kit know?

06blaksi · 12-07-2006, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdss

I was wondering if the HFP spring needed the kit. Does anyone with the kit know?

You don't need it with the HFP suspension because it only lowers it .8"
Camber kits are for 1" or more. I just can't see how you don't need a camber kit. I don't have one and had the car on a shop floor the other day. I noticed the light dirt that stuck to my tires well all except the last 1 1/2" of tire from the outer part of the rim which didn't even touch the ground. I should have snapped a pic

***darna*** · 12-07-2006, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by junsu

can you tell me who/where this place is? i lowered my car a week ago, too, and have been looking to get my car aligned soon. youre in the southbay, right?

pm'd u bro.

Ms.Gambit · 12-09-2006, 07:02 PM

i agree with darna. i havent gotten a camber kit for my car. i just have the s-techs and it really isnt needed. however maybe our EK needs one ya think? negative camber is our friend.

07SiGuy · 12-09-2006, 07:24 PM

I dropped mine on Tein SS coilovers and holy crap did it need a camber kit in the back.

My car looked like this from the rear // \\

Like 06blaksi said, at one point you could see a patch of my tire at least an inch wide that had never touched the road.

I say don't risk the crazy tire wear, invest some cash and never have to worry about it again. Don't mod your car unless you have the $$$ to do it right. IMHO

kenchan · 12-09-2006, 08:26 PM

if you run low profile tires and lots of neg camber make sure you
check your tire pressure often. ive seen a couple guys tearing
up their tires where the treads meet the inner sidewall.

Ms.Gambit · 12-09-2006, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

if you run low profile tires and lots of neg camber make sure you
check your tire pressure often. ive seen a couple guys tearing
up their tires where the treads meet the inner sidewall.

we're cool. we should probably buy stock in discount tire since we are constantly buying new ones.

caveman74 · 12-10-2006, 06:13 AM

Look at a stock Civic in the back, they all have bad camber. I like it better without the camber kit. I will save my 300.00 for tires.

RWatters · 12-10-2006, 01:08 PM

Camber wearing out tires is a common misconception. TOE is what destroys the rear tires after a FWD car is lowered, not camber. There isn't a lot of weight in the rear to press down on the tires to cause excessive heat which would burn the tire away quicker. If your toe has been corrected and you can run the -2.5 to -2.7 degrees of camber perfectly fine without any tire wear. Don't believe me? Come measure my summer performance tires. 10,000 miles now on them and they are still PERFECT. Why? The toe was corrected to Honda's factory specifications. I do recommend tire rotations, but I do that every 6000-7000 miles anyways so it's no big deal to me.

You correct camber for handling. That much negative camber in the rear on a FWD such as ours is a recipe for understeer. A good setup would consist of around -1 degrees of camber up front with -.5 degrees of camber in the rear. Toe in the rear being zero, and toe in the front being zero. That is a combination that won't destroy tires, but should leave a pretty balanced car when thrown into corners.

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*darna* Tang Na! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: anaheim Age: 34 Posts: 2,607 christian iTrader: 6 / 100%	i got away without camber kit. lowered my car a week ago and since then i've been in search of a good alignment shops but haven't had any luck till now. i called about 12 shops in my area and everybody told me i need camber kit to be able to align my wheel. finally came across a guy who works at honda parts dept. and hook me up to a place w/c specializes on lowered cars. asked the guy if i need a kit and he answered it's ok to have one but not required and can work w/o it and save u some money. i could sense he's the real deal and knows what he's talking bout... so if u can't afford to buy camber kits i just want you guys to know it's ok not to have one. also, feel free to oppose this post if u think running w/o camber kit is gonna harm the car.

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kenchan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Midwest Posts: 2,131 iTrader: 1 / 100%	if you run low profile tires and lots of neg camber make sure you check your tire pressure often. ive seen a couple guys tearing up their tires where the treads meet the inner sidewall.

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RWatters Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Olathe, KS Age: 23 Posts: 1,647 iTrader: 10 / 100%	Camber wearing out tires is a common misconception. TOE is what destroys the rear tires after a FWD car is lowered, not camber. There isn't a lot of weight in the rear to press down on the tires to cause excessive heat which would burn the tire away quicker. If your toe has been corrected and you can run the -2.5 to -2.7 degrees of camber perfectly fine without any tire wear. Don't believe me? Come measure my summer performance tires. 10,000 miles now on them and they are still PERFECT. Why? The toe was corrected to Honda's factory specifications. I do recommend tire rotations, but I do that every 6000-7000 miles anyways so it's no big deal to me. You correct camber for handling. That much negative camber in the rear on a FWD such as ours is a recipe for understeer. A good setup would consist of around -1 degrees of camber up front with -.5 degrees of camber in the rear. Toe in the rear being zero, and toe in the front being zero. That is a combination that won't destroy tires, but should leave a pretty balanced car when thrown into corners.