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Old 02-28-2009, 03:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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so i recently purchased these coil overs and let me first say, they are great! I had skunk 2 pro s but they do not compare to the N+ AT ALL!! I wanted to share with the people that have or are planning to buy the N+ on how to tune the height of their suspension. Note: this is only to assist you, you don't have to follow these specs. All these specs/pictures do not belong to me, i'm just posting it here so others can reference to it. i believe these belong to a guy named Albert who works at buddy club, he's a great guy, best customer service i've had EVER! He helped me a lot with my coils without even charging me.

so after having my coils installed and i took it for a drive up the mountains"not pushing it of course" and i have to say, the car responds great, the only thing bad was i had stock tires -.- and on almost every turn the tires would break traction lol. The coilovers just showed me how badly i need new tires.









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The values on the OP are only accurate for the 06 Si according to the tech I spoke with. The 07+ has a larger bushing that the spring perch goes on and causes the measurements to be wrong. This is what he told me as for height adjustment:
Spring Perch:
0mm - 3'' drop
10mm - 2'' drop
20mm - 1'' drop
Strut:
200mm - 3'' drop
210mm - 2'' drop
220mm - 1'' drop
To add an update to this, I followed the measurements for the spring perch and they were pretty accurate. I suggest anyone doing this for the first time, to lower the car down (on all 4 wheels) with just the rear spring in, not strut as that will dictate the height. Once you see the height you want install the rear strut so there is as little preload on the spring as possible. This is how I did it the last time I adjusted my suspension and it worked great.





I've noticed that the settings above for the rear is kinda bouncy (the settings were probably for track use) Anyways, to have less of a bouncy ride i lowered the rear spring preload by a couple mm and raised the shock by however mm i lowered the spring part by. That helped out a lot and now the ride is even more enjoyable

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west... are you a member or miraclegarage.com? they have all the info there on how to adjust and set... if you are, log in and go to this URL... it has how to measure and adjust...


on the rear, you measure from the silver washer on top of the threads, to the locking bolt...

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ok guys i messed with my setup all morning, do not go off these settings unless you plan on tracking the car all the time. as in every weekend. Its way to stiff for daily driving.

i have some settings for you to go off. This is what i use for DD. (these are not track settings.)

ok for the spring perch it says 30mm for three inches. that is incorrect. you actually want to go more like 10mm and as to not over preload the spring which is what the original settings do set your shock to 170mm from the top of the shock, like as in the picture. this will give a low drop tho but you wont be bouncing all over the place it rides just like stock.

ok for the front this part was really easy. he is pretty much dead on in the front for the spring preload but in order to make the drop even (to me) i actually went up on the threads(1/4th) of an inch to lower it another 1/2 of an inch.

So my suggestion is get the back where you would like it and adjust the front to this. feel free to pm me

if you want about a 2 inch drop in the back i suggest the shock at 180mm and the perch set at 20 mm. its a nice smooth preload that wont bounce you around.

The rear was a pain in the ass, but this really is a great suspension kit once you get it dialed in im very impressed.

Hope this helped the bouncy problem. ohh and mine is no longer making noises, i think the spring hits someything when it is over preloaded or maybe it just rides almost completly on the spring. Good luck J Also i have my dampers at 2F/4R i wont be taking my car to the track =P

***Some more info thanks to trans9mp***
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alright everyone... finally i found sometime to snap a few pictures of my set-up... hard for me to find time with work and it raining and always being dark over here in Germany... anyhow... I'm gonna post up I guess you can call a synopsis of everything I went thru to get my settings right... so here is what i went thru...
Here are the settings I tried...

1. FRONT 200 mm spring preset/ 100 mm adjustment per MG (setting 1 for damper) REAR 200 mm adjustment / 40 mm spring preset (setting 1 for damper)
2. FRONT 200 mm/ 100 mm (setting 1)/ REAR 195 mm/ 40 mm (setting 1)
3. FRONT 200 mm/ 100 mm (setting 1)/ REAR 205 mm/ 40 mm (setting 1)
4. FRONT 200 mm/ 100 mm (setting 1)/ REAR 180 mm/ 20mm (setting 1)
5. FRONT 200 mm/ 100 mm + 8 complete spins upward (setting 1)/ REAR 170 mm/ 10mm (setting 1)
6. FRONT 200 mm/ 100 mm + 8 up (setting 1)/ REAR 205 mm/ 10 mm (setting 1)
and finally the setting that is PERFECT for MY Si...
7. FRONT 200 mm/ 100 mm + 8 up (setting 3)/ REAR 205 mm/ 10 mm (setting 5)

Now keep in mind... It rides BETTER than stock, but because I have my damper set a little higher, its just a tad more responsive... which is what i wanted... if you dont want a little more bouncy/ responsive than stock, leave your damper settings at 1f/1r and it will be money... also, keep in mind... every car is DIFFERENT... my settings might not work for you... but so far these settings worked for both west and I... Here are the pictures...

*also, the parking lot where i took these quick pics was slanted and i took them in like 2 seconds lol...






also just wanted to point out... that i am having some slight rubbing on the wheel well from the front... so when i ge a spare moment I'm going to make the front from the current settings of 200 mm + 8 up to 200 mm - 3 to make 200 mm + 5 mm if that makes sense... any questions... PM me, or shoot me an email... clinton.shifflett@instantemail.t-mobile.de and that will go straight to my blackberry... Thanks guys...

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Great Info. If i dont get HFP ill be getting this.
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I luv my N+. This is good info to have. And would have been real nice to have when I first did the install.
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by the way I have the n+ too and they are fantastic. My tires always have traction even when in bumpy stretches. The stock tires are a lot better than you think though. I am smooth with them and they continue to impress me.
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thanks for the info! im planning to get these
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no prob, just trying to help the fellow 8th gens =]
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haha Albert was the one who tuned my suspension, honestly best customer service ever, he tuned for no charge at all, even drove down to my buddies pad to help with my car and my friends BC seat rails.
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does ur rear suspension creak when going over bumps?
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Awesome post!! good info thanks
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does ur rear suspension creak when going over bumps?
nah no sounds at all lol
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great post! i cant wait to get these!
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Great post. Very informative. I had originally thought about Skunk2 Pro-S, but these look much better. Do you know what the f/r spring rates are?
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Great post. Very informative. I had originally thought about Skunk2 Pro-S, but these look much better. Do you know what the f/r spring rates are?
Bill, I'm starting to think more about these as well.
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Bill, I'm starting to think more about these as well.
Aww Matt, I think our Si's are falling in love with each other....
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nah no sounds at all lol
hmm wonder why mines squeek...
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spring rates are 10k front and 14k rear, let me tell you guys it does ride considerably well for those rates, i love the low speed dampening so smooth over bumps, overall great daily ride comfort!

as the op stated pro s do not compare!

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spring rates don't dictate how comfortable it is.. its the dampening. and 10kf/14k sounds like its under damped for its spring rates but its ok

remember to adjust the dampener to be higher in the rear than the front to allow better rotation.
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Congratz on the purchase anyone could of told you Skunk2 are crap. I curently have the Racing Spec Dampers for my track setup which are a step above the N+. N+ are great for daily driving and some occasional track use.
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Congratz on the purchase anyone could of told you Skunk2 are crap. I curently have the Racing Spec Dampers for my track setup which are a step above the N+. N+ are great for daily driving and some occasional track use.
@ skunk2 is crap.

drive Pro-C and your opinion will change.
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