Camber Problem!!!HELP!!

Tredd · 10-01-2008, 11:35 PM

Took my car in for an alignment today due to me getting 18" rims and dropping my car on the Buddyclub N+ Coilovers. I have the rear SPC arms and the front SPC camber bolts. And the techs there were able to adjust the rear fine, but the front wheels didnt adjust very well. They were able to adjust the toe, but my drivers side camber is at -2.5 degrees, and thats the max positive it will go. The passenger side max negative was 0 degrees. The techs also told me that the front camber bolts added nothing to my drivers side and only .5 to my passenger side. I was wondering if anyone else had problems with the SPC front camber bolts, as they're suppose to adjust + or - 1.75 degrees in camber. My other question was is there any way in installing the front coilover set in a way were it will throw the camber way negative, as my drivers side wheel has so much more camber than the other. Please HELP!!!

chunky · 10-01-2008, 11:53 PM

Did your coilovers come with camber plates and how many camber bolts per side do you have in the front?

Tredd · 10-01-2008, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chunky

Did your coilovers come with camber plates and how many camber bolts per side do you have in the front?

naw they didnt come with camber plates, and 1 camber bolt on each side installed on the top as their suppose to.

Zeuceone · 10-02-2008, 12:07 AM

Bottom hole not top

aki · 10-02-2008, 01:11 AM

Might be a cruddy shop that doesn't know what they're doing. The bolts should provide +/- 1.5 degs of adjustment--which usually ends up to like 1-1.5 degrees. You can also get two sets of camber bolts, which is what I did.

Tredd · 10-02-2008, 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aki

Might be a cruddy shop that doesn't know what they're doing. The bolts should provide +/- 1.5 degs of adjustment--which usually ends up to like 1-1.5 degrees. You can also get two sets of camber bolts, which is what I did.

I was there when they were doing the fronts, and to adjust the camber, ur suppose to just spin the bolt around right? And when we were turning the bolt, the camber didnt move at all on the drivers, and only 0.5 degrees on the passanger.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeuceone

Bottom hole not top

I dont think its suppose to be on the bottom of the two holes, both Diy's on this forum as well as the instructions said on top.

Firestrife · 10-02-2008, 04:00 AM

did you put the washer with the tab in properly also. because that can have a big effect. I had one camber bolt and was fine so was my camber after i recently installed my second set.

Tredd · 10-02-2008, 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firestrife

did you put the washer with the tab in properly also. because that can have a big effect. I had one camber bolt and was fine so was my camber after i recently installed my second set.

thats what i had a problem understand, what does that washer do? And on both sides, is the washer suppose to be on the left side when looking at it? Is everyone else with these front camber bolts able to adjust their camber very effectively?

FA5VL · 10-02-2008, 08:17 AM

since your coils did not come with camber plate, i suggest buying another set of camber bolts, which means two bolts on each side to dial out more +camber.

***JEA86*** · 10-02-2008, 09:07 AM

its the bottom holes on both sides trust me had no problems with it either or them adjusting it.

VanSi07 · 10-02-2008, 10:00 AM

The bolts work, yours just must be installed incorrectly or the techs are idiots.

Sanmiglite · 10-02-2008, 11:32 AM

tredd, which alignment shop did you go? Bolts should work fine. I had the same
problem before coz the guy doesnt know what to do so i brought it to a different shop. As far as where the bolts go, it should be on the top.

***JEA86*** · 10-02-2008, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sanmiglite

tredd, which alignment shop did you go? Bolts should work fine. I had the same
problem before coz the guy doesnt know what to do so i brought it to a different shop. As far as where the bolts go, it should be on the top.

mine were on the bottom facing toward the motor and i never had a problem

Sanmiglite · 10-02-2008, 11:52 AM

mine is on the top and works fine too. We tried adjusting it and the max i got was +1.8 to -1.7.

Tredd · 10-02-2008, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sanmiglite

mine is on the top and works fine too. We tried adjusting it and the max i got was +1.8 to -1.7.

hmm i might have installed them incorrectly then, which way did you guys install the tabs? With the tabs facing the rear? Or are they facing the front of the car?

Tredd · 10-02-2008, 08:22 PM

bump for anyone else with knowing what the problem might be?

Firestrife · 10-02-2008, 08:26 PM

If you followed the DIY it should be fine. Unless your guy doesnt know what he is doing. try to dial the negative camber yourself its pretty easy to understand the geometry of what your doing if you modulate the bolt and see what it does.

Tredd · 10-02-2008, 08:58 PM

the problem with all the diy's though is that they dont show you how to adjust the camber, they just show how to install, and yea after i figure out how to use them, i can probably just set it myself. I was thinking that because i didnt loosen the bottom bolt, it wouldnt let me adjust my camber. I just took out the top and put the SPC one in, anyone know if i was suppose to loosen the bottom one?

x_fg2_x · 10-02-2008, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tredd

..my drivers side camber is at -2.5 degrees, and thats the max positive it will go.

I wish my cars max Pos camber in the front was -2.5 lol would make things easy haha

disboiflaco · 10-25-2008, 01:20 AM

i installed my biddy club N+ today, i have the same problem, but i dont have the camber bolts. i dont know what to do. my front isnt even dropped that low and i have a cambere problem.

10-01-2008, 11:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
Tredd Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Rowland Heights (So-Cal) Age: 20 Posts: 2,186 iTrader: 8 / 100%	Camber Problem!!!HELP!! Took my car in for an alignment today due to me getting 18" rims and dropping my car on the Buddyclub N+ Coilovers. I have the rear SPC arms and the front SPC camber bolts. And the techs there were able to adjust the rear fine, but the front wheels didnt adjust very well. They were able to adjust the toe, but my drivers side camber is at -2.5 degrees, and thats the max positive it will go. The passenger side max negative was 0 degrees. The techs also told me that the front camber bolts added nothing to my drivers side and only .5 to my passenger side. I was wondering if anyone else had problems with the SPC front camber bolts, as they're suppose to adjust + or - 1.75 degrees in camber. My other question was is there any way in installing the front coilover set in a way were it will throw the camber way negative, as my drivers side wheel has so much more camber than the other. Please HELP!!!

10-02-2008, 04:00 AM	#7 (permalink)
Firestrife Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Vicinity of Gainesville, FL Posts: 5,086 Keenan iTrader: 18 / 100%	did you put the washer with the tab in properly also. because that can have a big effect. I had one camber bolt and was fine so was my camber after i recently installed my second set. Last edited by Firestrife; 10-02-2008 at 04:01 AM.

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10-01-2008, 11:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
chunky Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 373 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Did your coilovers come with camber plates and how many camber bolts per side do you have in the front?

10-02-2008, 12:07 AM	#4 (permalink)
Zeuceone Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Age: 13 Posts: 97,747 iTrader: 49 / 100%	Bottom hole not top

10-02-2008, 01:11 AM	#5 (permalink)
aki Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: tehインターウェブ Age: 30 Posts: 7,252 Semi-Si Sedan Hater iTrader: 8 / 100%	Might be a cruddy shop that doesn't know what they're doing. The bolts should provide +/- 1.5 degs of adjustment--which usually ends up to like 1-1.5 degrees. You can also get two sets of camber bolts, which is what I did.

10-02-2008, 08:17 AM	#9 (permalink)
FA5VL Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: 9K RPM Pull: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x9_LwXGwmg Posts: 2,795 8TH civic hmong crew/TWFA5CREW iTrader: 6 / 100%	since your coils did not come with camber plate, i suggest buying another set of camber bolts, which means two bolts on each side to dial out more +camber.

10-02-2008, 09:07 AM	#10 (permalink)
*JEA86* Si-Onara Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Glen Daniel WV Age: 24 Posts: 5,141 Jeremy iTrader: 84 / 100%	its the bottom holes on both sides trust me had no problems with it either or them adjusting it.

10-02-2008, 10:00 AM	#11 (permalink)
VanSi07 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Vancouver, BC Age: 24 Posts: 1,543 iTrader: 1 / 100%	The bolts work, yours just must be installed incorrectly or the techs are idiots.

10-02-2008, 11:32 AM	#12 (permalink)
Sanmiglite Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Alpha Phi Chupapi Posts: 10,688 Chu Paeng iTrader: 16 / 100%	tredd, which alignment shop did you go? Bolts should work fine. I had the same problem before coz the guy doesnt know what to do so i brought it to a different shop. As far as where the bolts go, it should be on the top.

10-02-2008, 11:52 AM	#14 (permalink)
Sanmiglite Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Alpha Phi Chupapi Posts: 10,688 Chu Paeng iTrader: 16 / 100%	mine is on the top and works fine too. We tried adjusting it and the max i got was +1.8 to -1.7.

10-02-2008, 08:22 PM	#16 (permalink)
Tredd Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Rowland Heights (So-Cal) Age: 20 Posts: 2,186 iTrader: 8 / 100%	bump for anyone else with knowing what the problem might be?

10-02-2008, 08:26 PM	#17 (permalink)
Firestrife Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Vicinity of Gainesville, FL Posts: 5,086 Keenan iTrader: 18 / 100%	If you followed the DIY it should be fine. Unless your guy doesnt know what he is doing. try to dial the negative camber yourself its pretty easy to understand the geometry of what your doing if you modulate the bolt and see what it does.

10-02-2008, 08:58 PM	#18 (permalink)
Tredd Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Rowland Heights (So-Cal) Age: 20 Posts: 2,186 iTrader: 8 / 100%	the problem with all the diy's though is that they dont show you how to adjust the camber, they just show how to install, and yea after i figure out how to use them, i can probably just set it myself. I was thinking that because i didnt loosen the bottom bolt, it wouldnt let me adjust my camber. I just took out the top and put the SPC one in, anyone know if i was suppose to loosen the bottom one?

10-25-2008, 01:20 AM	#20 (permalink)
disboiflaco Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Houston Posts: 2,763 Fastest N/A Si in H-town/Tulsa iTrader: 13 / 93%	i installed my biddy club N+ today, i have the same problem, but i dont have the camber bolts. i dont know what to do. my front isnt even dropped that low and i have a cambere problem.