Need Alot of help about Camber Kits...

kenken3686 · 07-31-2006, 11:10 PM

ok I have done enough searching in the forum, and i still dont understand... so i have my car lowered with the eibach pro-kit, altho i have not done aligment yet but i am concern about the camber, which is what i dont understand... so when do i need camber kit? can i find out myself when i need one? i am pretty lost i am telling you guys...

and whats the different between postive and negitive camber degrees?

Black_civic_Si · 07-31-2006, 11:26 PM

well anytime you buy a aftermaket spring or coilover kit you will need camber kit for the front and the back. If you already lowerd your car without camber kit, go check out your ride and look at your tires, the tired must look straight it cant be looking like this / or \ it must look like this l l . Camber kit help you straight your wheels out and help your car riding smooth. You will loose alot of thread on one side of the tire. When you finish installing the kit take it out and get the alignment check.

importtuner13 · 08-01-2006, 01:03 AM

A negative camber will look like this from the /--\ with the top of the wheels sitting in and a positive will look like this \--/ with the tops of thw wheels sticking out. The new Si comes with a slight negative camber to aid in cornering, but once you lower the car it increases the amount of negative camber too much. Like Black Si said, the inside of the tire will wear out about 30 to 50% faster if you don't get it fixed. Trust me on that, I work at a tire and wheel shop and see that about 15 times a day on lowered cars.

Black_civic_Si · 08-01-2006, 01:39 AM

basicaly if you dont buy camber kit, you gonna spend hella money for just buying new rear tires everytime it somewhat bald out

kenken3686 · 08-01-2006, 01:43 AM

thx guys, damn i need to get those camber kits soon...

bluetroll · 08-01-2006, 10:29 AM

would the HFP suspension need a camber kit?

cappykd · 08-01-2006, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluetroll

would the HFP suspension need a camber kit?

From what I've read, no it does not. That's one of the reasons why I went with the HFP kit. It should be here any day, I'll post up a follow-up after it's installed.

kenken3686 · 08-01-2006, 10:49 AM

btw where is the camber? and does the camber kit helps lowering the car? like i mean does adjusting the camber kit makes the car lower also?

Zesti1 · 08-01-2006, 05:39 PM

I should get the camber kit for my Si.......

Love my -2.1 degree camber

kenken3686 · 08-01-2006, 05:39 PM

without the camber kit, can i still get the wheels straight out? if i took the car to an alignment shop? need help please!!

Black_civic_Si · 08-02-2006, 12:52 AM

ummm.that iffy cause if you bought a kit for stock height i'm shure you can get away with it remember stock height, but if you buy aftermarket spring/coiloverkit and drop it "YOU WILL NEED CAMBER KIT" regardless. Cause like we said you want the wheels straight not slainted.

vtecharry · 08-06-2006, 04:29 PM

I know Honda makes camber bolts (kit) for the front and those are the ones I would get. Does anyone know if there is an aftermarket camber kit for the rear? This is for LX/EX.

Black_civic_Si · 08-06-2006, 04:59 PM

there should be one...try this site http://www.corsportusa.com/store/catalog/index.php

Marin · 08-06-2006, 05:04 PM

I just got mine alligned and i have the tein ss springs all around. You will need a rear spc camber kit to get the car alligned. Most places wont even try if they know there is no camber kit because they cant align the car without it and it is a liablilty issue for them. I only had a camber kit on the rear not on the front and Kal Tire did the alignment to almost 100% within spec, there were no problems at all. With the tein ss you will not need a kit for the front but you will forsure for the back.

Black_civic_Si · 08-06-2006, 05:07 PM

yea, cause the front you have to use to the oem pillow mount. But i talk to a guy at Tein and he say they are working on making pillow mount for the civic

vtecharry · 08-14-2006, 01:11 PM

yes, but to adjust the rear camber, all you need is adjustable upper control arms like the Ingalls kits. Don't need pillow ball mounts or anything like that. I have the Ingalls rear kit on my Integra. It's a nice solid upper arm which is actually 2 very strong pieces. One screws inside the bigger piece and you turn to adjust the length you want (to adjust camber). There are are 2 large nuts at either end to lock the arms into place. Have had it for 1.5yr now and it's rock solid. No camber changes whatsover in the back since I installed it. I 've had 3 wheel alignments since (mainly for the front cause I 've been installing different springs/rates, etc.) and they always show -1.5 deg. in the rear just the way I set it 18mos ago. For the front I 'm getting the Honda OEM camber kit.

***COMplex*** · 08-19-2006, 04:34 PM

Lowered on Tein SS with SPC front & rear.

Drove around with -4.5° of camber for like 3 months until I finally got my friend at honda to let me use the alignment rack.

Now the rear is at an acceptable -1.5° :)

Luckily I didn't care about the tire wear, because I've got a set of Advan's waiting for their new wheels.

07-31-2006, 11:10 PM	#1 (permalink)
kenken3686 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mississauga, ON Age: 22 Posts: 312 Kenneth iTrader: 0 / 0%	Need Alot of help about Camber Kits... ok I have done enough searching in the forum, and i still dont understand... so i have my car lowered with the eibach pro-kit, altho i have not done aligment yet but i am concern about the camber, which is what i dont understand... so when do i need camber kit? can i find out myself when i need one? i am pretty lost i am telling you guys... and whats the different between postive and negitive camber degrees?

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*COMplex* M.U.R.D.E.R Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Denver, CO. Age: 23 Posts: 3,942 ------------------------- iTrader: 4 / 100%	Lowered on Tein SS with SPC front & rear. Drove around with -4.5° of camber for like 3 months until I finally got my friend at honda to let me use the alignment rack. Now the rear is at an acceptable -1.5° :) Luckily I didn't care about the tire wear, because I've got a set of Advan's waiting for their new wheels. __________________ » Supercharged 2006 Honda Civic Si Coupe » Information/Teaser Video \| ROTM \| Carbon8mag Feature!

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07-31-2006, 11:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
Black_civic_Si Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oakland, Bay Area Posts: 958 iTrader: 2 / 100%	well anytime you buy a aftermaket spring or coilover kit you will need camber kit for the front and the back. If you already lowerd your car without camber kit, go check out your ride and look at your tires, the tired must look straight it cant be looking like this / or \ it must look like this l l . Camber kit help you straight your wheels out and help your car riding smooth. You will loose alot of thread on one side of the tire. When you finish installing the kit take it out and get the alignment check.

08-01-2006, 01:03 AM	#3 (permalink)
importtuner13 Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: California Posts: 36 iTrader: 0 / 0%	A negative camber will look like this from the /--\ with the top of the wheels sitting in and a positive will look like this \--/ with the tops of thw wheels sticking out. The new Si comes with a slight negative camber to aid in cornering, but once you lower the car it increases the amount of negative camber too much. Like Black Si said, the inside of the tire will wear out about 30 to 50% faster if you don't get it fixed. Trust me on that, I work at a tire and wheel shop and see that about 15 times a day on lowered cars.

08-01-2006, 01:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
Black_civic_Si Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oakland, Bay Area Posts: 958 iTrader: 2 / 100%	basicaly if you dont buy camber kit, you gonna spend hella money for just buying new rear tires everytime it somewhat bald out

08-01-2006, 01:43 AM	#5 (permalink)
kenken3686 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mississauga, ON Age: 22 Posts: 312 Kenneth iTrader: 0 / 0%	thx guys, damn i need to get those camber kits soon...

08-01-2006, 10:29 AM	#6 (permalink)
bluetroll Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Markham, Ontario Posts: 1,301 NBP Si iTrader: 4 / 100%	would the HFP suspension need a camber kit?

08-01-2006, 10:49 AM	#8 (permalink)
kenken3686 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mississauga, ON Age: 22 Posts: 312 Kenneth iTrader: 0 / 0%	btw where is the camber? and does the camber kit helps lowering the car? like i mean does adjusting the camber kit makes the car lower also?

08-01-2006, 05:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
Zesti1 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Brampton, ON Age: 28 Posts: 4,575 Joseph iTrader: 8 / 100%	I should get the camber kit for my Si....... Love my -2.1 degree camber

08-01-2006, 05:39 PM	#10 (permalink)
kenken3686 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mississauga, ON Age: 22 Posts: 312 Kenneth iTrader: 0 / 0%	without the camber kit, can i still get the wheels straight out? if i took the car to an alignment shop? need help please!!

08-02-2006, 12:52 AM	#11 (permalink)
Black_civic_Si Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oakland, Bay Area Posts: 958 iTrader: 2 / 100%	ummm.that iffy cause if you bought a kit for stock height i'm shure you can get away with it remember stock height, but if you buy aftermarket spring/coiloverkit and drop it "YOU WILL NEED CAMBER KIT" regardless. Cause like we said you want the wheels straight not slainted.

08-06-2006, 04:29 PM	#12 (permalink)
vtecharry Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NY Age: 41 Posts: 155 iTrader: 1 / 100%	I know Honda makes camber bolts (kit) for the front and those are the ones I would get. Does anyone know if there is an aftermarket camber kit for the rear? This is for LX/EX.

08-06-2006, 04:59 PM	#13 (permalink)
Black_civic_Si Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oakland, Bay Area Posts: 958 iTrader: 2 / 100%	there should be one...try this site http://www.corsportusa.com/store/catalog/index.php

08-06-2006, 05:04 PM	#14 (permalink)
Marin Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Edmonton Age: 25 Posts: 189 Damian iTrader: 3 / 100%	I just got mine alligned and i have the tein ss springs all around. You will need a rear spc camber kit to get the car alligned. Most places wont even try if they know there is no camber kit because they cant align the car without it and it is a liablilty issue for them. I only had a camber kit on the rear not on the front and Kal Tire did the alignment to almost 100% within spec, there were no problems at all. With the tein ss you will not need a kit for the front but you will forsure for the back.

08-06-2006, 05:07 PM	#15 (permalink)
Black_civic_Si Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oakland, Bay Area Posts: 958 iTrader: 2 / 100%	yea, cause the front you have to use to the oem pillow mount. But i talk to a guy at Tein and he say they are working on making pillow mount for the civic

08-14-2006, 01:11 PM	#16 (permalink)
vtecharry Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NY Age: 41 Posts: 155 iTrader: 1 / 100%	yes, but to adjust the rear camber, all you need is adjustable upper control arms like the Ingalls kits. Don't need pillow ball mounts or anything like that. I have the Ingalls rear kit on my Integra. It's a nice solid upper arm which is actually 2 very strong pieces. One screws inside the bigger piece and you turn to adjust the length you want (to adjust camber). There are are 2 large nuts at either end to lock the arms into place. Have had it for 1.5yr now and it's rock solid. No camber changes whatsover in the back since I installed it. I 've had 3 wheel alignments since (mainly for the front cause I 've been installing different springs/rates, etc.) and they always show -1.5 deg. in the rear just the way I set it 18mos ago. For the front I 'm getting the Honda OEM camber kit.