Everyone is using lowering springs, what about shocks?

dlux200sx · 07-19-2006, 03:56 AM

Are you guys using aftermarket springs on the stock shocks? Is it safe?

Torredo · 07-19-2006, 07:41 AM

see this is where i kinda messed up on my suspension because
i decided on 18" rims which even with an Eibach lowering kit (1")
will have the possibility of rubbing the rear tires (40 series) which
in turn is okay to me for this reason.

The stock shocks are actually good enough to keep with stock coils
as the stock car handles pretty damn good to me, but if you wanted
to upgrade a little would mean replacing the bushings (EnergySuspension)
when they come up with a kit for the car (in my case 06' civic DX-G)
and even further by replacing the stock EX sway bars to Si ones as I read
in an article here on 8thCvic. After this the car would be well behaved in
my opinion.

.02

JeShUa · 07-19-2006, 01:51 PM

its safer the smaller your wheels are.
And tires have something to do with it.. some brands rub some dont..
but if you relaly wanted a drop Id get hfp suspension.. its only a 1" drop.. but I think it looks best.. lower than 1" looks tacky imho.. look for cookstar's thread @ his car its pretty :]

fa1 · 07-19-2006, 03:47 PM

Afaik there are no avaliable aftermarket shocks for our cars yet.

dlux200sx · 07-20-2006, 01:02 AM

If i decide to get some springs like some Tein springs for $300 or so and put them on my stock SI shocks like everyone else is doing, will the springs cause my stock shocks to deteriorate at a faster pace? if so how fast?

Why would anyone spend $600 on HFP suspension when aftermarket springs are just $200-300? Is it better somehow? Thanks.

xc0n · 07-20-2006, 02:04 AM

do you think if i drop my car 1.4" the shocks will be fine ????? eibach sportline

peliROJO · 07-20-2006, 02:13 AM

You might be interested in this article. There's probably a few of us that haven't read it:

http://www.hondanews.com/CatID2013?m...39848&mime=asc

2006 Honda Civic Chassis
Chassis Summary
MacPherson Strut Front Suspension
Steering System
Braking with ABS
Front and Rear Brakes
Springs, Dampers and Stabilizer Bars
Model specific Suspension Tuning
Wheels and Tires

SIpimpin13 · 07-22-2006, 09:55 AM

interesting...thanks!

skittleslegend · 07-22-2006, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlux200sx

If i decide to get some springs like some Tein springs for $300 or so and put them on my stock SI shocks like everyone else is doing, will the springs cause my stock shocks to deteriorate at a faster pace? if so how fast?

Why would anyone spend $600 on HFP suspension when aftermarket springs are just $200-300? Is it better somehow? Thanks.

The HFP suspension includes dampers. Not just springs.

Technically, your springs shouldn't sag for at least a year, but there are a lot of different variables that could make your shocks deteriorate faster or slower. Road conditions, driving habits, amount of weight consistently in the car, etc.

06Ex · 07-22-2006, 11:27 AM

What the hell does this have to do with wheels and tires, shouldnt it be in the suspension forum???

Black_civic_Si · 07-22-2006, 12:19 PM

well i use a full coil over suspension from Tein SS, my best guess if your buy new spring dont use the factory shock cause that oem shock is for oem spring cause it was design for their purpose and you prolbally have to replace your shock frequently and if you use a aftermarket spring like eibach or ground control go with aftermarket shock like koni yellow ... cause you gotta remember the car is over $20,000.00

skittleslegend · 07-22-2006, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 06Ex

What the hell does this have to do with wheels and tires, shouldnt it be in the suspension forum???

good call. I wasn't paying attention. Moved.

larryd · 07-22-2006, 12:31 PM

To my knowledge there are not any aftermarket shocks/struts available yet. I know personally I intend on running my Eibach Sportlines springs with OE shocks until they blow and then I'll replace the OEs with something better or just upgrade the whole suspension and sell the Eibachs at that time.

Black_civic_Si · 07-22-2006, 01:18 PM

Tiznonay · 07-22-2006, 02:41 PM

Nice pics ^^ That looks sick... just low enough. What exactly do you have done to it?

Hankey723 · 08-03-2006, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black_civic_Si

Nice car Balck Civic but to people who didnt happen to know any suspension that obviously comes out for the FG2 will fit the FG1 regardless ... Im not a big fan of Eibach so on my FG1 i went with the Tein S-Techs for the Si ...

Black_civic_Si · 08-05-2006, 03:40 PM

me and my friend install tein ss on my civic and tein ssp on the rsx type-s, about 4 hours on each car. slow mode ahah

Marin · 08-05-2006, 04:51 PM

I dont think a drop of 1.4inch with the tein s is going to cause your shocks to wear out substantially quicker. Sure there is more stress but with a drop of 1.4inch i dont think it will make that big of a difference. Just watch out for the huge pot holes and bumps and you should be fine.

sick_civic · 08-05-2006, 10:16 PM

i want the pro sportlines with 18'' wheels.....but did you say it rubs??...

: ......if so....il have to buy the 17''...grrr

06SILVERSI · 08-20-2006, 03:59 AM

I ran S-techs on my lude for a good 2 years before there was even a sign that my oe sticks needed to be replaced. Personally I think you'll get about 3/4 the life out of your oe stick on just a spring drop of 1.4'' anything more than that and its less for sure

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Black_civic_Si Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oakland, Bay Area Posts: 958 iTrader: 2 / 100%	well i use a full coil over suspension from Tein SS, my best guess if your buy new spring dont use the factory shock cause that oem shock is for oem spring cause it was design for their purpose and you prolbally have to replace your shock frequently and if you use a aftermarket spring like eibach or ground control go with aftermarket shock like koni yellow ... cause you gotta remember the car is over $20,000.00

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