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Old 06-30-2008, 01:30 PM   #161 (permalink)
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Sounds like HFP is the way to go.

Anyone have a rate comparison between these and stock? Who is actually making these? (I'm sure Honda isn't, maybe Tokiko? KYB? someone else?)

$600 for shocks and springs, if they aren't crap, is a real good deal.
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Old 06-30-2008, 02:22 PM   #162 (permalink)
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I'm willing to bet they are made by showa just like most other honda o.e. suspension parts. They're a great product, and you really can't go wrong with it.
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Old 06-30-2008, 02:32 PM   #163 (permalink)
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go with the hfp...I used to have the buddy club N+ coilovers and can say coilovers suck for daily driving and hfp still has a good drop to me and rides awesome..heres a couple pics of them on my ride...





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Old 06-30-2008, 06:17 PM   #164 (permalink)
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Your right man I should go with the HFP^^^your car looks great and better than stock but the lip still sticks up a lot and when u had those Buddy Club..wow it looked great.though like u said ther not good for daily driving and thats all I do :/
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Old 06-30-2008, 07:57 PM   #165 (permalink)
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I woudl like some side shots so I can really get a look :)
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Old 06-30-2008, 09:40 PM   #166 (permalink)
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everyday i drive with the HFP suspension... the more i like it.
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Old 06-30-2008, 10:14 PM   #167 (permalink)
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If you've been following all of the detailed talk by highrev etc... "adjustability" isn't necessarily good. Often it only adjusts one type of damping.

What I do know about the HFP is that all the damping and spring rates are different for all the coupes and sedans and models. AKA the rates are different from si coupe to si sedan and ex/lx coupe and sedan. Seriously can you beat a honda suspension setup designed for your exact make and model? (around the same price point) Who knows. But I can tell you that I love my HFP suspension.

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I know adjustablility isnt always good, but was making the point that it is the only thing which sets it apart from the HFP. And the HFP is MADE for our cars so I think it is the best option for anyone looking for suspension. Unless you wanna spend 3k on a KONI setup.
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Old 06-30-2008, 11:26 PM   #168 (permalink)
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Yea... I'm liking the HFP more and more. I like the fact that is is made for out cars specifically, keeps warranty and I have not heard a single bad review.
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Old 07-01-2008, 12:10 AM   #169 (permalink)
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Yea... I'm liking the HFP more and more. I like the fact that is is made for out cars specifically, keeps warranty and I have not heard a single bad review.
UGHhhhhh changed my descion again....I saw two Si's side to side in a pic of one on coilovers with about 2in+ drop and one with the HFP and umm i really dont care if the ride becomes rougher or if im not using a part from Honda...Im gona do what I think looks good and I know the point of coilover is to improve handling so I will prob. do the Skunk2 Pro S cause for $100 more I get the adjustibilty I want but thats just what I want...If you guys want to do what Honda set out for our cars and the little drop then go for the HFP so that is how I see it now
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UGHhhhhh changed my descion again....I saw two Si's side to side in a pic of one on coilovers with about 2in+ drop and one with the HFP and umm i really dont care if the ride becomes rougher or if im not using a part from Honda...Im gona do what I think looks good and I know the point of coilover is to improve handling so I will prob. do the Skunk2 Pro S cause for $100 more I get the adjustibilty I want but thats just what I want...If you guys want to do what Honda set out for our cars and the little drop then go for the HFP so that is how I see it now
I thought the point of coilovers were to make your car lower?
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And improve handling^^otherwise why would they be so expensive? Might as well get a lowering kit then if you just want your car lowered
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Do some more research rather then to just assume that...each coilover kit is different...it's that expensive also because its a KIT remember not just springs...not to say Skunk 2 is bad but hopefully some other members can tell you about the handling...
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the thing is, there isn't much to go off of in terms of comparasions.

people say hfp is good but the drop is small

people say the skunk2 is good but rough but can adjust the drop.

whole thing is which is better in terms of handling... to me i think i would go with which ever causes more oversteer. Need it for hairpins ^^
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Do some more research rather then to just assume that...each coilover kit is different...it's that expensive also because its a KIT remember not just springs...not to say Skunk 2 is bad but hopefully some other members can tell you about the handling...
haha man I have you cant just assume I dont know what I am talking about. I just made this thread to see what people have to say about the HFP so I can decided whether to get that or coilovers(which yes they do improve handling and believe it or not even springs alone do as well)
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well i've heard about the skunk2 being rough and other problem that I really can't remember right not, but on the other hand I haven't heard ANY bad reviews about the HFP.
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And improve handling^^otherwise why would they be so expensive? Might as well get a lowering kit then if you just want your car lowered
I think the only reason they improve handling is because they lower the car's center of gravity. There is nothing else included in the kit that would improve handling if I am not mistaken.
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haha man I have you cant just assume I dont know what I am talking about. I just made this thread to see what people have to say about the HFP so I can decided whether to get that or coilovers(which yes they do improve handling and believe it or not even springs alone do as well)
yeah if you do get it let us know how it is. i'll be putting in my hfp kit soon so we'll have yet another review.
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I know the point of coilover is to improve handling so I will prob. do the Skunk2 Pro S cause for $100 more I get the adjustibilty I want but thats just what I want...
The issue that *I* would be concerned about is running out of suspension travel. The front of newer Honda's don't seem be be able to tolerate large amounts of lowering and still stay off the bump stops. Perhaps that's why the HFP stuff only lowers the cars ~3/4?

The point of adjustable coilovers is to be able to achieve 50/50 crossweighting for motorsports. If your car never sees a road course or autocross, then adj. coilovers are likely a complete waste. In general, coilovers suck for daily driving.
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The issue that *I* would be concerned about is running out of suspension travel. The front of newer Honda's don't seem be be able to tolerate large amounts of lowering and still stay off the bump stops. Perhaps that's why the HFP stuff only lowers the cars ~3/4?

The point of adjustable coilovers is to be able to achieve 50/50 crossweighting for motorsports. If your car never sees a road course or autocross, then adj. coilovers are likely a complete waste. In general, coilovers suck for daily driving.
If and only if you don't like the rough ride from coilovers. Its a matter of preference so to say they suck for daily driving in general would be putting wrong words in the mouths of those who do like the rough/stiff ride you get from coilovers. I drove a rsx type-s with some coils and yes it was stiff but he was prepared to get that stiffness before he bought it, so it wasnt a surprise nor did he mind it; he acutally loves it. So I like that feeling and yes honda's only lowers in 3/4in probably because they dont want people hitting stuff on their car and having them come complaining to them; too many problems for honda. I want the 2in drop and from what others have said our cars can handle it and when driven safely, your ok with bumps.

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You would be surprised how little you can lower these cars before you start hitting the bump stops.....
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