HFP Suspension reviews?

[Endo07si]

Originally Posted by iomatic

EPIC DONT REALLY CARE, may my not caring self be with you

[maximus20895]

Originally Posted by Threecamels

The HFP is the Real-Deal, the Progress-bar was just a big band-aid. I personally believe that, by design, the Pro-bar generates greater loads than the mounting points were designed to handle. And, the HFP does it's job, it give's the car crisp enough handling on it's own. So, since my Civic is just my DD and I don't need "at the edge of adhesion" handling, I may sell my pro-bar(I said may) and work with a combination of Si and Ex bars to find the best roll-couple balance.

so would you reccommend the Progress Rear Sway Bar or not?

[Fiji_Blue_FG2]

how does this work in terms of warrantee??

I purchased new tires and they have kinda soft sidewalls. would the hfp suspension still tighten everything back up so to speak till these tires wear out?

[wrecked]

where is the best/cheapest place to purchase the HFP suspension?

thanks

[Kronos_32]

^^^EBAY my friend. 550 shipped.

[iomatic]

Originally Posted by Endo07si

EPIC DONT REALLY CARE, may my not caring self be with you

You don't care; that's fine. But your spreading misinformation needs to be deterred. Your flawed reasoning:

Originally Posted by Endo07si

wont believe it till I hear or see it for myself...I know companies that are the most popular and most used worldwide are not cheap...their springs are much better than say skunk2 or other ones

Most popular and most used worldwide == not cheap == …reliable?

Let me give you a hint: what you have outlined in your posts is decidedly not scientific deduction. You're forgetting damper rates, spring rates, geometry, etc. Just lowering them, according to you:

Originally Posted by Endo07si

all i was trying to prove is taht they DO improve handling and are part of a suspension upgrade..and no im not passing it off to people

Simply lowering a car improves handling? This is some major misinformation that impinges on the safety of people who use this forum, and that's the only reason why I'm piping up and retorting. Otherwise, I'd just write this off as another web-enabled malinformed post, as we find so often on teh intarwebz.

I'll give you some more conjecture, since that seems the way you reason in this world: I'll take sticky tires, and you take lowering springs, and we go to the track; just make sure you bring your health insurance when we call the EMTs to come scrape your body and what's left of your car off the walls.

[Threecamels]

Originally Posted by maximus20895

so would you reccommend the Progress Rear Sway Bar or not?

No, I think it's too big for the way it's mounted to the car and there are other ways to influence over-steer. Having said that, it did make my Civic handle better. So, if you believe you need one, put it on.

[Firestrife]

Originally Posted by Threecamels

No, I think it's too big for the way it's mounted to the car and there are other ways to influence over-steer. Having said that, it did make my Civic handle better. So, if you believe you need one, put it on.

I have to honestly disagree with you on the progress rear sway bar as much as it is big, the Type-R civic in Japan has nearly the same size sway bars, It gives the car a neutral stance in turns rather than only understeer. I put one in recently and I feel the difference is much better, plus I have negative camber up front. So i think in combination those two do a great job. Next im going to get HFP suspension and a rear camber kit to give a further fine tuned suspension.

[Threecamels]

Originally Posted by Firestrife

I have to honestly disagree with you on the progress rear sway bar as much as it is big, the Type-R civic in Japan has nearly the same size sway bars, It gives the car a neutral stance in turns rather than only understeer. I put one in recently and I feel the difference is much better, plus I have negative camber up front. So i think in combination those two do a great job. Next im going to get HFP suspension and a rear camber kit to give a further fine tuned suspension.

You can disagree with me if you want, I don't mind.

[Endo07si]

Originally Posted by iomatic

You don't care; that's fine. But your spreading misinformation needs to be deterred. Your flawed reasoning:



Most popular and most used worldwide == not cheap == …reliable?

Let me give you a hint: what you have outlined in your posts is decidedly not scientific deduction. You're forgetting damper rates, spring rates, geometry, etc. Just lowering them, according to you:



Simply lowering a car improves handling? This is some major misinformation that impinges on the safety of people who use this forum, and that's the only reason why I'm piping up and retorting. Otherwise, I'd just write this off as another web-enabled malinformed post, as we find so often on teh intarwebz.

I'll give you some more conjecture, since that seems the way you reason in this world: I'll take sticky tires, and you take lowering springs, and we go to the track; just make sure you bring your health insurance when we call the EMTs to come scrape your body and what's left of your car off the walls.

Wow buddy! using fancy words with me does not convince me one bit that you know what you are talking about....simply lowering it improves handling? i was saying springs improve your handling so stop trying to act like u know it all...im not gona waste my breath on you any more you go on this site and try to use smart words to sound smart though you really aren't....let me give u some conjecture...ya lets go to a track and see how bad u drive bud ..i will outhandle u anyday and with ur useless mods on ur car which u barley have any i will leave u crying in the back of the track when u thought I would hit my car on the wall...seriously get out of this thread because I do not want to hear your no life self trying to talk smart over the internet

[06RREX]

whoa... chill. Don't flame other members.

[maximus20895]

^ yea, be nice like a kitten :)

[iomatic]

Originally Posted by Endo07si

Wow buddy! using fancy words with me does not convince me one bit that you know what you are talking about....simply lowering it improves handling? i was saying springs improve your handling so stop trying to act like u know it all...im not gona waste my breath on you any more you go on this site and try to use smart words to sound smart though you really aren't....let me give u some conjecture...ya lets go to a track and see how bad u drive bud ..i will outhandle u anyday and with ur useless mods on ur car which u barley have any i will leave u crying in the back of the track when u thought I would hit my car on the wall...seriously get out of this thread because I do not want to hear your no life self trying to talk smart over the internet

I'll just leave this for posterity.

Back on topic: my good friend is going to either put the Pro-Cs or Konis (yes, RedShift), or the HFPs on. Oh by the way, he was a Honda suspension test engineer, so he should be able to help me tune them quite well, whatever I get.

[cvccsi]

I've read that people are pairing aftermarket springs with the HFP strut/shock. Is it worthwhile doing? or the HFP spring is comparable?

[wrecked]

just ordered mine last night from ebay

eBay Motors: 06 08 GENUINE HONDA CIVIC Si HFP SPORT SUSPENSION KIT (item 320270744855 end time Jul-06-08 19:41:35 PDT)


now for some mugen GP's and some high performance tires and my shit will be on rails

[tsltd]

it seems like the OP is set on just getting lowering springs now...theres no more review on HFP....everyone here already said good things about it, including myself. so he can get whatever he wants now. instead of members here trying to explain to him about the HFP suspension, they get nothing in return but negative comments from the OP...

so heres it for me....again the pics don't do justice give it like 4 days - a week and it settles a lot more....the pics are misleading also because its how they take them...what if their on a hill or the road is slanted making it seem higher? there really is about a 2 finger gap....and rear is lower....and handling greatly increases....i can take turns i didnt before at a much higher speed...hfp ftw...IMO get it now if you want a real suspension...

so good luck with whatever you do and stop flaming....all you do is respond to people with a smart @ss comment and its just not right my friend, for those who are actually trying to help your decision making too...

[Endo07si]

Originally Posted by tsltd

it seems like the OP is set on just getting lowering springs now...theres no more review on HFP....everyone here already said good things about it, including myself. so he can get whatever he wants now. instead of members here trying to explain to him about the HFP suspension, they get nothing in return but negative comments from the OP...

so heres it for me....again the pics don't do justice give it like 4 days - a week and it settles a lot more....the pics are misleading also because its how they take them...what if their on a hill or the road is slanted making it seem higher? there really is about a 2 finger gap....and rear is lower....and handling greatly increases....i can take turns i didnt before at a much higher speed...hfp ftw...IMO get it now if you want a real suspension...

so good luck with whatever you do and stop flaming....all you do is respond to people with a smart @ss comment and its just not right my friend, for those who are actually trying to help your decision making too...

bro..u cant just come in here and try to act like the guy who trys to resolve everything because I was upset at someone's comments who tried to mislead what I was saying into a failing explination..it is not as if I am flaming everyone; it was one or two guys but if u did read my whole thread I was thanking everyone for their review on the HFP and I still am..so to say I post smart ass comments when they try to use smart words to out smart me when they are wrong about something doesnt me you can do so...yes I know its my desicion but I want the HFP now because of the fact my ms3 friend had it on his car and it felt great on turns on the track we were at, so if u guys want i will have it installed, and post pics here of whatever drop I get; I can really care less now..when I really took the time to think about it, it seems like the best bang for the buck and the best descion but dont listen to me I have been on and off and back and forth between my descions but Im pretty sure this is the one

[vaek]

I know for a lot of folks the dealer labor cost is a deal breaker for the HFP kit, but from what I heard from my buddy in the service dept. the install time listed by Honda is 2.2 hours. That plus an $80 alignment should only run you about $300. They can pull this info up and check for themselves. For the California folks, this isn't too much more than what you'd pay at a suspension shop like West End, but the amount of grief you'll go through to get that labor rate may not be worth it.

[Endo07si]

^lol ur dealership is chill mine wants 400 for the install and allignment

[06RREX]

Enough with all this BS. Let's just get back to the reviews and more pictures.