supercharger aftercooler chat thread

[bulliedog]

Unkle Dabe was spoken!

[JDM_DOHC_SiR]

Time to clean up... "IF" you guys have issues with something take it to PM's.. not in here...

[jmercado567]

Originally Posted by JDM_DOHC_SiR

Time to clean up... "IF" you guys have issues with something take it to PM's.. not in here...

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Thank you

[JDM_DOHC_SiR]

Last warning .. take it to PM's or this thread is done

[mucter]

Hmm, I just read the last page, including the deleted posts.

While I'm not partial to either company at this point, having used neither on my own car. I have to say, I've been scratching my head about Danny's times at the track on slicks. Should have gone much much faster imo.

That said, while Mike's car went fast, and consistently, I know that Emmanuel told me the water in the HX was boiling from the heat. I've been curious about what could / should be done to cope with that scenario. Is the HX too small on IMT for repeated drag runs? Where's the balance.

You guys can get upset and say that you're bashing each other. But I find it all relevant. This is the Aftercooler chat thread. JMerc and IMT are the only ones offering these items. Neither company is a sponsor on here. As long as you guys keep it civil, how can we not discuss the differences, similarities, and pros/cons and still have "chat" in this thread? Will we all just sit here eating with no talk?

We've got users talking about their own experiences and a manufacturer / designer giving feedback at the same time. I think you guys should all keep talking and I think the real world experience that you were discussing is important... yes even the mildly inflammatory deleted posts.

Nothing worthwhile comes easy.

[bulliedog]

My car was not on slicks when it went 12.2's. It was on drag radials and AC M62 set up. Never had a good run with the Whipple set up yet.

[mercurysunshine]

good call... i put in my OP that flaming was welcome, cause as i said before a lot of good info comes out like that...whatever keeps the mods happy i guess....

[K20Z3allmotor]

Originally Posted by bulliedog

My car was not on slicks when it went 12.2's. It was on drag radials and AC M62 set up. Never had a good run with the Whipple set up yet.

And u went slower with whipple and slicks.

[K20Z3allmotor]

Originally Posted by mucter

Hmm, I just read the last page, including the deleted posts.

While I'm not partial to either company at this point, having used neither on my own car. I have to say, I've been scratching my head about Danny's times at the track on slicks. Should have gone much much faster imo.

That said, while Mike's car went fast, and consistently, I know that Emmanuel told me the water in the HX was boiling from the heat. I've been curious about what could / should be done to cope with that scenario. Is the HX too small on IMT for repeated drag runs? Where's the balance.

You guys can get upset and say that you're bashing each other. But I find it all relevant. This is the Aftercooler chat thread. JMerc and IMT are the only ones offering these items. Neither company is a sponsor on here. As long as you guys keep it civil, how can we not discuss the differences, similarities, and pros/cons and still have "chat" in this thread? Will we all just sit here eating with no talk?

We've got users talking about their own experiences and a manufacturer / designer giving feedback at the same time. I think you guys should all keep talking and I think the real world experience that you were discussing is important... yes even the mildly inflammatory deleted posts.

Nothing worthwhile comes easy.

Thank u jay, same way I feel. The water in mikes car was not boiling though. It got hot because the weather got hot. It still kept running 11's lol

[JDM_DOHC_SiR]

Either way... keep it Civil or "I" will clean it up

[jmercado567]

Originally Posted by K20Z3allmotor

Thank u jay, same way I feel. The water in mikes car was not boiling though. It got hot because the weather got hot. It still kept running 11's lol

It kept going cause it had drag slicks... and no power to spin first and second gear... no?

[mike_si_29]

Originally Posted by mucter

Hmm, I just read the last page, including the deleted posts.

While I'm not partial to either company at this point, having used neither on my own car. I have to say, I've been scratching my head about Danny's times at the track on slicks. Should have gone much much faster imo.

That said, while Mike's car went fast, and consistently, I know that Emmanuel told me the water in the HX was boiling from the heat. I've been curious about what could / should be done to cope with that scenario. Is the HX too small on IMT for repeated drag runs? Where's the balance.

You guys can get upset and say that you're bashing each other. But I find it all relevant. This is the Aftercooler chat thread. JMerc and IMT are the only ones offering these items. Neither company is a sponsor on here. As long as you guys keep it civil, how can we not discuss the differences, similarities, and pros/cons and still have "chat" in this thread? Will we all just sit here eating with no talk?

We've got users talking about their own experiences and a manufacturer / designer giving feedback at the same time. I think you guys should all keep talking and I think the real world experience that you were discussing is important... yes even the mildly inflammatory deleted posts.

Nothing worthwhile comes easy.

Here is my opinion. There is only limitted amout of space we have in our small cars. You can have HX that holds 1-2 quarts more of fluid but eventually it will get hot no matter what. Its like adding a cup of cold water to a boiling pot. Yes, it will help for a little but it will get hot eventually. Same goes with ice. Yes, you can fill it up but it will melt shortly. I can see a difference if it was 1 gallon system vs 5 but its not a case IMO.

Even though neither company is a sponsor on here, I think its a bit unfair for one company to post pics of the products and be in discussion of their products. I think only customers should be involved. IMT doesnt even have an account and never posted single word in here. It does look a bit of advertisement to say.. " I am so and so.. from some company.. here is a new product". Both have websites, so why not advertise it there and update customers as well.

[jmercado567]

Originally Posted by K20Z3allmotor

And u went slower with whipple and slicks.

He was learning the car man and made a mistake that caused it to break before he could figure it out. you can't count that... its pure sillines to even try to say that.

[K20Z3allmotor]

Originally Posted by jmercado567

It kept going cause it had drag slicks... and no power to spin first and second gear... no?

Getting 1.9 60fts on the first run was spinning the hell out of the slicks in 1st and 2nd. We had traction problems on all runs and had to set the LC accordingly. So no ur wrong again.

[jmercado567]

Originally Posted by K20Z3allmotor

Getting 1.9 60fts on the first run was spinning the hell out of the slicks in 1st and 2nd. We had traction problems on all runs and had to set the LC accordingly. So no ur wrong again.

Sweet .. then thank you for the clarification. It thought a while back I was told you did not need bbg with slicks on this car?

this is the stuff that confuses me. First there was plenty of grip and bbg was not needed... but now im told it was spinning them? what gives?

low ET times with no grip makes no sense to me... Just trying to figure out the story...

Now, i hear the water was so hot... but yet a bigger HE is not needed to coold the water down better... again... what gives...

Not bashing.. just trying to understand what is going on? thanks again for the info.

[jmercado567]

About pumps and installation angle.

For years mustangs have placed their pump sideways on top of their heat exchangers. (google images will shows you plenty of these) many others as well.

The mistake comes from installing the pump in a way that allows the pump head to keep an air pocket with out floating out of the pump.

for example, if you place the pump sideways and the intake hose goes below the pump head in a U shape, it will act like a toilet bowl and not allow the pump to prime if there is an air pocket on it.

So that being said, if the only option is to have the pump sideways, you must ensure the hose connected to the input side of the pump has a direct upwards path to a remote fill accessory.

hope this makes sense for those trying to install their pumps on their projects.

[K20Z3allmotor]

Originally Posted by jmercado567

Sweet .. then thank you for the clarification. It thought a while back I was told you did not need bbg with slicks on this car?

this is the stuff that confuses me. First there was plenty of grip and bbg was not needed... but now im told it was spinning them? what gives?

low ET times with no grip makes no sense to me... Just trying to figure out the story...

Now, i hear the water was so hot... but yet a bigger HE is not needed to coold the water down better... again... what gives...

Not bashing.. just trying to understand what is going on? thanks again for the info.

LC is not BBG

[mike_si_29]

Originally Posted by jmercado567

Sweet .. then thank you for the clarification. It thought a while back I was told you did not need bbg with slicks on this car?

this is the stuff that confuses me. First there was plenty of grip and bbg was not needed... but now im told it was spinning them? what gives?

low ET times with no grip makes no sense to me... Just trying to figure out the story...

Now, i hear the water was so hot... but yet a bigger HE is not needed to coold the water down better... again... what gives...

Not bashing.. just trying to understand what is going on? thanks again for the info.

There is no bbg on my car. Now water is boiling. If water was boiling, later runs time would go down hill quickly. An extra little bit of water will get hot too if you make run after run and dont wait 2 hours for everything to cool down. 130F water already feels boiling since you cant keep you hand there for long. More water will require longer time to cool down. I am all for people to slam as huge HX as possible, cut bumpers, etc... I just know I wont do it.

[jmercado567]

Originally Posted by K20Z3allmotor

LC is not BBG

Sorry what is LC... I really dont know.

[mike_si_29]

Originally Posted by jmercado567

Sorry what is LC... I really dont know.

I believe its a launch control. You pretty much set max RPMs in FP at what you wanna launch your car.