Little Problem

citizh · 03-03-2010, 05:32 PM

CEL has come on for a third time and i finally got it checked

code P0172

Definition
-Fuel system too rich bank 1
Probable cause
-fuel system concern
-ignition system concern
-maf sensor faulty
-H02S/AF ration sensor fault

also i have noticed that under normal acceleration my dashhawk reads 10.1.1 afr, which i know thats the lowest it can go. once up to speed i am around 14.*.* range

what should i do?

FijiBlueFG2HT · 03-03-2010, 05:36 PM

Need more airflow. Try removing airshi-err..."heat" shield?

vtecmike1 · 03-03-2010, 08:02 PM

did you try cleaning your o2 sensor out? and resetting the ecu after its done?

and you have flashpro right? are you runing the current stage 2 calibration?

make sure your flashpro manager is up to date and reload the calibration that is stored on it.

unless your tuned. then i'd say i dunno.

citizh · 03-03-2010, 10:46 PM

well, i should have put this, stage 1 on reflash from hondata

vtecmike1 · 03-04-2010, 12:20 AM

i'd try cleaning the o2 sensor out then, and make sure your air filter is clean. resetting ecu.

maf could also be dirty but i doubt it.

citizh · 03-04-2010, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtecmike1

i'd try cleaning the o2 sensor out then, and make sure your air filter is clean. resetting ecu.

maf could also be dirty but i doubt it.

air filter is clean, ct intake hasnt been on for 1000 miles, maf should be ok, it has to be the first 02 sensor, the AFRs are all over the place since i read my AFR off the first one

prizm5063 · 03-04-2010, 11:43 PM

Are you running the stage 1 flash from flashpro or the reflash from sending in your ECU? I had the exact same problem running the factory hondata tunes. My car would just not run right at all. Just had Jeff Evans tune mine. His maps are totall different and the car is running soo much better now. I would not trust the maps on flashpro.

If you've been running it for awhile now, and this just suddenly happened. Check your connections, then I would check the AFR sensor. There were a couple of guys that had their sensor go bad.

citizh · 03-05-2010, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prizm5063

Are you running the stage 1 flash from flashpro or the reflash from sending in your ECU? I had the exact same problem running the factory hondata tunes. My car would just not run right at all. Just had Jeff Evans tune mine. His maps are totall different and the car is running soo much better now. I would not trust the maps on flashpro.

If you've been running it for awhile now, and this just suddenly happened. Check your connections, then I would check the AFR sensor. There were a couple of guys that had their sensor go bad.

i have been running it for about 2000 miles. it has to be the sensor cause everything else is fine

skunk2civic · 03-05-2010, 03:24 PM

No. The o2 sensor is fine. It's just your tune. Hondata is very conservative, just get a e-tune and your problems will be fixed.

citizh · 03-05-2010, 03:50 PM

have to have flashpro first.....

JFoss · 03-05-2010, 06:21 PM

skunk2civic · 03-05-2010, 10:49 PM

Well go buy it, either that, or run rich and have holes on your pistons..

citizh · 03-05-2010, 11:03 PM

hell, i still need a RH

skunk2civic · 03-05-2010, 11:12 PM

Ill sell you mine cheap

citizh · 03-05-2010, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skunk2civic

Ill sell you mine cheap

how cheap is cheap?

vtecmike1 · 03-05-2010, 11:49 PM

the base reflash they send with the stage 1 kit is totally safe. i ran it for a LONG time.

i did have a RH though which might have leaned me up a bit not causing it to be crazy rich.

FP and a smaller pulley should be on your list of "to do's" :P

citizh · 03-06-2010, 12:59 PM

My list right now is RH and a dyno to see what my afrs are. One thing that's stopping me is my parents, sad I know

vtecmike1 · 03-06-2010, 05:21 PM

push the saftey aspect of a real tune with flashpro.

my engine will last longer and is safer then a generic tune"

works everytime.

well it did with my wife. when i wanted to upgrade. lol

citizh · 03-10-2010, 04:03 PM

well, once i get some money i am getting a RH. as for FP, couldnt i use someone elses FP for an etune?

***mucter*** · 03-10-2010, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by citizh

well, once i get some money i am getting a RH. as for FP, couldnt i use someone elses FP for an etune?

No. You must buy your own FlashPro. Your only priority for your engine at this point should be FlashPro. Upgrading parts haphazardly without the ability to properly tune your vehicle is very foolish. With forced induction you MUST tune it if you want your ish to last.

03-03-2010, 05:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
citizh Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Eastern Shore - MD Age: 20 Posts: 5,830 JOE	Little Problem CEL has come on for a third time and i finally got it checked code P0172 Definition -Fuel system too rich bank 1 Probable cause -fuel system concern -ignition system concern -maf sensor faulty -H02S/AF ration sensor fault also i have noticed that under normal acceleration my dashhawk reads 10.1.1 afr, which i know thats the lowest it can go. once up to speed i am around 14.. range what should i do?
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03-04-2010, 11:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
prizm5063 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Phoenix Posts: 631 Mark	Are you running the stage 1 flash from flashpro or the reflash from sending in your ECU? I had the exact same problem running the factory hondata tunes. My car would just not run right at all. Just had Jeff Evans tune mine. His maps are totall different and the car is running soo much better now. I would not trust the maps on flashpro. If you've been running it for awhile now, and this just suddenly happened. Check your connections, then I would check the AFR sensor. There were a couple of guys that had their sensor go bad. Last edited by prizm5063; 03-04-2010 at 11:45 PM.

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vtecmike1 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Simi Valley Age: 27 Posts: 3,950 Mike	did you try cleaning your o2 sensor out? and resetting the ecu after its done? and you have flashpro right? are you runing the current stage 2 calibration? make sure your flashpro manager is up to date and reload the calibration that is stored on it. unless your tuned. then i'd say i dunno.

03-03-2010, 10:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
citizh Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Eastern Shore - MD Age: 20 Posts: 5,830 JOE	well, i should have put this, stage 1 on reflash from hondata

03-04-2010, 12:20 AM	#5 (permalink)
vtecmike1 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Simi Valley Age: 27 Posts: 3,950 Mike	i'd try cleaning the o2 sensor out then, and make sure your air filter is clean. resetting ecu. maf could also be dirty but i doubt it.

03-05-2010, 03:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
skunk2civic Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Lake Charles, LA Posts: 4,018 Chris	No. The o2 sensor is fine. It's just your tune. Hondata is very conservative, just get a e-tune and your problems will be fixed.

03-05-2010, 03:50 PM	#10 (permalink)
citizh Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Eastern Shore - MD Age: 20 Posts: 5,830 JOE	have to have flashpro first.....

03-05-2010, 06:21 PM	#11 (permalink)
JFoss Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Maine Posts: 549 Jeremy

03-05-2010, 10:49 PM	#12 (permalink)
skunk2civic Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Lake Charles, LA Posts: 4,018 Chris	Well go buy it, either that, or run rich and have holes on your pistons..

03-05-2010, 11:03 PM	#13 (permalink)
citizh Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Eastern Shore - MD Age: 20 Posts: 5,830 JOE	hell, i still need a RH

03-05-2010, 11:12 PM	#14 (permalink)
skunk2civic Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Lake Charles, LA Posts: 4,018 Chris	Ill sell you mine cheap

03-05-2010, 11:49 PM	#16 (permalink)
vtecmike1 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Simi Valley Age: 27 Posts: 3,950 Mike	the base reflash they send with the stage 1 kit is totally safe. i ran it for a LONG time. i did have a RH though which might have leaned me up a bit not causing it to be crazy rich. FP and a smaller pulley should be on your list of "to do's" :P

03-06-2010, 12:59 PM	#17 (permalink)
citizh Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Eastern Shore - MD Age: 20 Posts: 5,830 JOE	My list right now is RH and a dyno to see what my afrs are. One thing that's stopping me is my parents, sad I know

03-06-2010, 05:21 PM	#18 (permalink)
vtecmike1 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Simi Valley Age: 27 Posts: 3,950 Mike	push the saftey aspect of a real tune with flashpro. my engine will last longer and is safer then a generic tune" works everytime. well it did with my wife. when i wanted to upgrade. lol

03-10-2010, 04:03 PM	#19 (permalink)
citizh Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Eastern Shore - MD Age: 20 Posts: 5,830 JOE	well, once i get some money i am getting a RH. as for FP, couldnt i use someone elses FP for an etune?

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