Comptech Supercharger Dyno Results! - Page 2

TwofouroSi · 10-25-2006, 09:55 PM

Yeah I'm going to have to hold off on this until I see something a little bit more inspiring as far as hard numbers go.

***sickyute*** · 10-25-2006, 10:18 PM

all i have to say is....for those who don't want to spend the money on the AJP kit cuz it's too expensive and not looking for that much power....

Comptech or JR is the way to go....after this this greddy dyno i won't even consider a greddy turbo....the dyno i'm about to post is that of pogi's...but knowing even more about the hardships of the greddy kit(see local member h-tech17) than just this dyno...i'd advise comptech over greddy ....

wow....
i prefer the comptech SC graph to the greddy graph...

make torques...good torque before vtec...but then it already starts to drop off even before u hit vtec....that is not nice!... sign of a turbo that will be very easilly overworked = reliability issues whers it's concerned

comparing to my graph...
i made 201 wtq. like at 4800rpm and it held there...the full 201 all the way to redline...the whp numbers we already know.
one straight line accross...i was making more peak tq than stock at about 3500 rpm.

comparing the 2 tq. curves...the greddy one IMO is horrendous...maybe to hard on them...but i don't like that tq. curve to say the least.

where the HP is concerned, leaves more room for concern...the power is dying off already...as if to say the turbo is maxxing out(probably not near that though), but look how the HP line just jumps nice and high early then starts to flatten out not making much more power for over almost 3000 rpm from about 5500 rpm to redline...

the first greddy graph is ......... lost for words....
atleast skunk2 got pogi somewhere....he has their cams and exhaust and a tune from them now....

man if i had spent that much on that greddy kit somebody would be giving me my money back!!!

so...comptech>greddy....this is actually one of the better greddy dynos i've seen too!!!! shameful

rep. again for good info.

i'm on a rep hunt....

BigGreg030 · 10-25-2006, 10:48 PM

The numbers are not what I expected for 3500 so I may just wait for future parts or maybe the Comptech Stage 2 and 3 will offer more power.

MADDOGSI · 10-26-2006, 12:25 AM

COMplex Your really about where you should be with your set up.Your exhaust is what is chocking you.You need to get the exhaust out quicker.To get good numbers from a SC the engine must breather freely.Upgrade to a race header, High flow cat like the magnaflow carsound and bigger exhaust 2.75 min.(skunk2 or AJP)I can see at least 15-20whp. If you would upgrade the exhaust.Then if you really want to wake the SC up.Go with a set of IPS SC cams with a TSX TB. With all of that. I would bet at least 260-270whp.Don't loose hope.A SC set up must have all the parts to match to get the peak power from it.You get one component mismatched and the power suffers.

DATA02 · 10-26-2006, 12:52 AM

STill gonna get it... over time it will greatly improve

***CaliGuy*** · 10-26-2006, 01:13 AM

Well, I'm not impressed with the #'s for the money with the stage 1. Now if the stage 2 and 3 can get me close to 300 I'd be very interested...

stevenshizzle · 10-26-2006, 10:42 AM

Question: How much horsepower (especially midrange) can one expect to gain from a race header install (just N/A, not boosted).

I read in another post that gains were about 22hp. Now...let's be modest and say that's all midrange. Fine. Now, let's move from small piping to 3" piping of the Skunk2. You may be able to expect 26hp gain midrange. I would assume that you could see gains in the top end as well.

Race header + high flowing exhaust = good times (when you need to make a payment)

***sickyute*** · 10-26-2006, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevenshizzle

Question: How much horsepower (especially midrange) can one expect to gain from a race header install (just N/A, not boosted).

I read in another post that gains were about 22hp. Now...let's be modest and say that's all midrange. Fine. Now, let's move from small piping to 3" piping of the Skunk2. You may be able to expect 26hp gain midrange. I would assume that you could see gains in the top end as well.

Race header + high flowing exhaust = good times (when you need to make a payment)

skunk2 is 2.75"
AJP is 3"

sheek360 · 10-26-2006, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sickyute

there was definately some half ass tuning there! that mustve been the ugliest dyno ever!

sheek360 · 10-26-2006, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MADDOGSI

COMplex Your really about where you should be with your set up.Your exhaust is what is chocking you.You need to get the exhaust out quicker.To get good numbers from a SC the engine must breather freely.Upgrade to a race header, High flow cat like the magnaflow carsound and bigger exhaust 2.75 min.(skunk2 or AJP)I can see at least 15-20whp. If you would upgrade the exhaust.Then if you really want to wake the SC up.Go with a set of IPS SC cams with a TSX TB. With all of that. I would bet at least 260-270whp.Don't loose hope.A SC set up must have all the parts to match to get the peak power from it.You get one component mismatched and the power suffers.

i dont know about 15-20whp from a header, dp and exhaust. Im not to familiar with the K yet. I would focus on some form of intercooling.

COMplex · 10-26-2006, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caveman74

228 seems a little low. The TOV Civic has 225 all engine. Makes me wonder

After looking at the RSX Comptech dyno. They did 227 with it, so I guess thats right

TOV should not be compared. They are using a dynapack, and he put down somewhere close to 200hp 100% STOCK. Stock Si's and RSX's have 175+/- WHP. Don't trust abnormal results...

I got what I paid for. Comptech says stage 1 adds 40-50 whp. That's exactly what the kit did for me.

COMplex · 10-26-2006, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TreeFrog

yeah basicly they are pretty much useless. sorry but, how does it feel to spend $100 on each hp you've gained?

Too bad I didn't spend $5000 for the kit then huh?

COMplex · 10-26-2006, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigGreg030

The numbers are not what I expected for 3500 so I may just wait for future parts or maybe the Comptech Stage 2 and 3 will offer more power.

The numbers are exactly what EVERYONE has been expecting. Comptech's website says 40-50whp. That is exactly what it's pushing out.

sheek360 · 10-26-2006, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COMplex

The numbers are exactly what EVERYONE has been expecting. Comptech's website says 40-50whp. That is exactly what it's pushing out.

it seems like the money spend doesnt justify that 50whp gain. IMO it more than justifies just for the simple fact that it can be upgraded for far less $ in the future! Same thing with a turbo kit. your pistons compression will allow you to run a bit more boost, coupled with the meth injection and intercooling you can definately go past 350whp! But your car will be depended on the meth, not during your daily drive, but when u go wide open throttle. Samething with a turbo. Add meth to the turbo, timing, and boost and u can really take advantage of the high compression!

JerrfyLube · 10-26-2006, 12:22 PM

Everyone who is busting his balls and commenting on the "low" HP numbers really has ZERO reason to be talking...

Nowhere did i see a dyno chart before the SC was installed. All dynos will read differently...sometimes its a DRASTIC difference! If the car made 160 HP on that same dyno before the SC and now it makes 220, then i would call that a worthwhile upgrade.

Really his after SC numbers that he shows doesnt mean anything at all...

LunchBoxed · 10-26-2006, 12:54 PM

I'm confused as to why everyone is surprised or disappointed with the hp gains from Comptech's SC. Like Complex said, the Comptech site promised 40-50 hp and it looks to have made good on that promise. I am a little disappointed with the tq #'s, but I do like the tq curve so I guess I shouldn't complain.

Everyone who viewed the videos that Complex posted earlier was stoked about the Comptech SC. Why the change in opinion?

I don't care what my car dynos out at as long as it's fun to drive. And, from the looks of it, my Si + Comptech SC = FUNNNN!!!

caveman74 · 10-26-2006, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COMplex

TOV should not be compared. They are using a dynapack, and he put down somewhere close to 200hp 100% STOCK. Stock Si's and RSX's have 175+/- WHP. Don't trust abnormal results...
I got what I paid for. Comptech says stage 1 adds 40-50 whp. That's exactly what the kit did for me.

The TOV Si put down 220 on a DYNOJET. They did do it on the Dynapack and it did 232. So there is a big differance between the two.

I would like to get the SC, but I think I might wait for the Stage 2 .

pogi666ako · 10-26-2006, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheek360

there was definately some half ass tuning there! that mustve been the ugliest dyno ever!

There's only so much you can do with A/F and ignition timing. When i get my engine management it wont be so "ugly"

sheek360 · 10-26-2006, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pogi666ako

There's only so much you can do with A/F and ignition timing. When i get my engine management it wont be so "ugly"

i didnt mean to offend any greddy owners. if u own a greddy it still a step forward from stock, i apologize if my comment offended.

BTW i wanna beat marvie on the rep thing. REP ME DAMMIT! LOL

BLU BY U · 10-26-2006, 07:08 PM

we have no torque. wow.

10-25-2006, 10:18 PM	#22 (permalink)
*sickyute* VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl Age: 29 Posts: 9,568 Marvie iTrader: 12 / 100%	all i have to say is....for those who don't want to spend the money on the AJP kit cuz it's too expensive and not looking for that much power.... Comptech or JR is the way to go....after this this greddy dyno i won't even consider a greddy turbo....the dyno i'm about to post is that of pogi's...but knowing even more about the hardships of the greddy kit(see local member h-tech17) than just this dyno...i'd advise comptech over greddy .... wow.... i prefer the comptech SC graph to the greddy graph... make torques...good torque before vtec...but then it already starts to drop off even before u hit vtec....that is not nice!... sign of a turbo that will be very easilly overworked = reliability issues whers it's concerned comparing to my graph... i made 201 wtq. like at 4800rpm and it held there...the full 201 all the way to redline...the whp numbers we already know. one straight line accross...i was making more peak tq than stock at about 3500 rpm. comparing the 2 tq. curves...the greddy one IMO is horrendous...maybe to hard on them...but i don't like that tq. curve to say the least. where the HP is concerned, leaves more room for concern...the power is dying off already...as if to say the turbo is maxxing out(probably not near that though), but look how the HP line just jumps nice and high early then starts to flatten out not making much more power for over almost 3000 rpm from about 5500 rpm to redline... the first greddy graph is ......... lost for words.... atleast skunk2 got pogi somewhere....he has their cams and exhaust and a tune from them now.... man if i had spent that much on that greddy kit somebody would be giving me my money back!!! so...comptech>greddy....this is actually one of the better greddy dynos i've seen too!!!! shameful rep. again for good info. i'm on a rep hunt.... __________________ Shift when it blinks! http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2640940 FA5 http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2216565 FG2

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10-25-2006, 09:55 PM	#21 (permalink)
TwofouroSi Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bellingham, WA Age: 25 Posts: 390 Josh iTrader: 1 / 100%	Yeah I'm going to have to hold off on this until I see something a little bit more inspiring as far as hard numbers go.

10-25-2006, 10:48 PM	#23 (permalink)
BigGreg030 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: SHAOLIN!! Age: 30 Posts: 428 iTrader: 3 / 100%	The numbers are not what I expected for 3500 so I may just wait for future parts or maybe the Comptech Stage 2 and 3 will offer more power.

10-26-2006, 12:25 AM	#24 (permalink)
MADDOGSI Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Derby Ks. Age: 34 Posts: 436 Scotty iTrader: 3 / 100%	COMplex Your really about where you should be with your set up.Your exhaust is what is chocking you.You need to get the exhaust out quicker.To get good numbers from a SC the engine must breather freely.Upgrade to a race header, High flow cat like the magnaflow carsound and bigger exhaust 2.75 min.(skunk2 or AJP)I can see at least 15-20whp. If you would upgrade the exhaust.Then if you really want to wake the SC up.Go with a set of IPS SC cams with a TSX TB. With all of that. I would bet at least 260-270whp.Don't loose hope.A SC set up must have all the parts to match to get the peak power from it.You get one component mismatched and the power suffers.

10-26-2006, 12:52 AM	#25 (permalink)
DATA02 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 360 iTrader: 0 / 0%	STill gonna get it... over time it will greatly improve

10-26-2006, 10:42 AM	#27 (permalink)
stevenshizzle Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Belleville, IL Age: 25 Posts: 793 Steven iTrader: 0 / 0%	Question: How much horsepower (especially midrange) can one expect to gain from a race header install (just N/A, not boosted). I read in another post that gains were about 22hp. Now...let's be modest and say that's all midrange. Fine. Now, let's move from small piping to 3" piping of the Skunk2. You may be able to expect 26hp gain midrange. I would assume that you could see gains in the top end as well. Race header + high flowing exhaust = good times (when you need to make a payment)

10-26-2006, 12:22 PM	#35 (permalink)
JerrfyLube Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Cheyenne, WY Age: 27 Posts: 278 Jeff iTrader: 0 / 0%	Everyone who is busting his balls and commenting on the "low" HP numbers really has ZERO reason to be talking... Nowhere did i see a dyno chart before the SC was installed. All dynos will read differently...sometimes its a DRASTIC difference! If the car made 160 HP on that same dyno before the SC and now it makes 220, then i would call that a worthwhile upgrade. Really his after SC numbers that he shows doesnt mean anything at all...

10-26-2006, 12:54 PM	#36 (permalink)
LunchBoxed Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 294 John iTrader: 0 / 0%	I'm confused as to why everyone is surprised or disappointed with the hp gains from Comptech's SC. Like Complex said, the Comptech site promised 40-50 hp and it looks to have made good on that promise. I am a little disappointed with the tq #'s, but I do like the tq curve so I guess I shouldn't complain. Everyone who viewed the videos that Complex posted earlier was stoked about the Comptech SC. Why the change in opinion? I don't care what my car dynos out at as long as it's fun to drive. And, from the looks of it, my Si + Comptech SC = FUNNNN!!!

10-26-2006, 07:08 PM	#40 (permalink)
BLU BY U Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 25 Posts: 7,767 iTrader: 2 / 100%	we have no torque. wow.