how to ship with UPS from the USA and NOT pay an arm and a leg

Xenin · 10-15-2008, 07:45 PM

so i read somewhere on here that shipping EXPRESS through UPS or FedEx would cost less brokerage fees. so i figured i'd try it out.

i bought some parts from Honda Parts Deals, $650 worth of parts, and chose EXPRES to ship. EXPRESS was $10 more over ground so i figure why not take a chance and see what happens, its only $10 and if i did have to pay brokerage then it wouldnt matter if i shipped ground or EXPRESS.

it took a week for Honda to gather all the parts together, figures since i ordered 16 items. UPS received the parts from Honda Monday morning. from there it went from RI to CT to KY to Mississauga...in 24 hours, airshipped.

i got the notice on my door on Tuesday stating i have 2 packages for me and they would redeliver the following day and the day after if no one answers. my parents are home in the daytime so i know someone will be home to accept.

on the notice i had to pay a COD charge to receive my boxes.

the COD charge was . . . . . $43.70! for $650 worth of parts. shipping EXPRESS was $105 but ground was $95 so you're not paying much more for express.

i called up UPS and payed the COD through credit card, you can also write a cheque and hand it to the UPS driver when they come to your door. while i had UPS on the phone i asked if there were any other charges, the person said NO, you just pay taxes and NO brokerage.

good deal.

so keep this in mind people, you want something from the states fast and cheaper, ship EXPRESS only with UPS/FedEx.

DumbasSi · 10-15-2008, 07:59 PM

I wonder why. Is the brokerage fee included somehow in the Express delivery?

What did you buy?

Xenin · 10-15-2008, 08:04 PM

i remember the UPS rep saying that it would be waived because of the express service. i'll have to see if i get any surprises in the mail but on the other hand why pay a COD if they would send me a bill in the mail?

Xenin · 10-15-2008, 08:07 PM

looks like its brokerage free according to this:

UPS: Rates for Customs Clearance into Canada

FastTimesAtFGHigh · 10-15-2008, 08:19 PM

nice tip. i'll have to keep that in mind.

DumbasSi · 10-15-2008, 08:19 PM

Very good to know. Should make it a sticky.

Xenin · 10-15-2008, 08:21 PM

its a sticky in my head from now on.

bluetroll · 10-15-2008, 08:47 PM

also... if the seller declares the item for you and charges you duties/taxes when you pay... you won't need to pay any brokerage/duties/taxes.... no hidden fees when you get the package. that's the best way!

***portabuddy*** · 10-15-2008, 09:30 PM

Do you know how many times i have been raped by these ass-hats?... i almost refuse to buy anything online because almost everyone uses ups. and whenever i here UPS i gag, feal 100% numb and want to kill something...

not a fan of them.... till now.

HoNgKoNgKoBe · 10-15-2008, 11:04 PM

subscribed so i can find this thread again. thanks for the info. shipping my HFP kit to toronto was a killer.

ViperSam · 10-16-2008, 12:36 AM

damn. i'm glad you found this, KC. definitely gonna keep this in mind. hmmmm what to buy online next...

NEvolution · 10-16-2008, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ViperSam

damn. i'm glad you found this, KC. definitely gonna keep this in mind. hmmmm what to buy online next...

which reminds me...can't wait till i get my fedex account reinstated

Xenin · 10-16-2008, 01:11 AM

i was looking at the full HFP kit, its only about $300 less from hondapartsdeals.com. the size of the boxes kills the price. collegehills seems to have the better price which includes shipping so it shouldnt be that much more for express.

the HFP brake kit is half the price it is in canada and express is about $200, thats worth it there.

FastTimesAtFGHigh · 10-16-2008, 08:59 AM

^ it's cheaper at jayhonda in ohio. i was thinking about driving down there to get it. google maps says 4 hour drive and change.

***portabuddy*** · 10-16-2008, 09:01 AM

lol... I need a new front buper nevermind the hfp kit... lol... its actully verry sad when you look at it. there are massive crator and actual dents in the plastic. and recently all my driving was city...

DeEmEn · 10-16-2008, 10:13 AM

oh wow... didn't know that... I ordered a 60 dollars headphone from the US then they charged me 40 bucks for brokerage... I was like wtf? Thanks for the tips tho.

ViperSam · 10-16-2008, 10:41 AM

I'm thinking about getting front HFP from the States somewhere... might drive down in the spring... we should have an HFP-buying caravan! lol

FastTimesAtFGHigh · 10-16-2008, 12:29 PM

^ yeah, i'm gonna combine it with a "ohio meet" in the spring.

szuberi · 10-16-2008, 12:37 PM

UPS and Fedex do state on their websites that there is no brokerage involved if the parts are air shipped and i always get surprised when ppl say they dont know about this. all you pay in the end is GST equivalent give or take.

KC...not everytime the express fee is a little different than ground however. in your case....it was low so you were lucky. in other instances, the extra shipping charge can pretty much eat any potential savings in brokerage fees.

UPS has a lawsuit on their a$$ cuz of the excessive fee that they charge here in canada as well...dont know whats the status of that is at the moment.

personally...i try to avoid them and look for USPS. another way of reducing these charges is to ask the vendor to declare a lower amount on the customs invoice but that can be good or bad depending who you buy from. some vendors dont agree to this and will only declare the true amount and also it may matter from an insurance and warranty standpoint.

szuberi · 10-16-2008, 12:38 PM

btw...what the hell did you buy homie?

10-15-2008, 07:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
Xenin Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brampton Age: 26 Posts: 4,066 K.C. -- Captain Projectors iTrader: 2 / 100%	how to ship with UPS from the USA and NOT pay an arm and a leg so i read somewhere on here that shipping EXPRESS through UPS or FedEx would cost less brokerage fees. so i figured i'd try it out. i bought some parts from Honda Parts Deals, $650 worth of parts, and chose EXPRES to ship. EXPRESS was $10 more over ground so i figure why not take a chance and see what happens, its only $10 and if i did have to pay brokerage then it wouldnt matter if i shipped ground or EXPRESS. it took a week for Honda to gather all the parts together, figures since i ordered 16 items. UPS received the parts from Honda Monday morning. from there it went from RI to CT to KY to Mississauga...in 24 hours, airshipped. i got the notice on my door on Tuesday stating i have 2 packages for me and they would redeliver the following day and the day after if no one answers. my parents are home in the daytime so i know someone will be home to accept. on the notice i had to pay a COD charge to receive my boxes. the COD charge was . . . . . $43.70! for $650 worth of parts. shipping EXPRESS was $105 but ground was $95 so you're not paying much more for express. i called up UPS and payed the COD through credit card, you can also write a cheque and hand it to the UPS driver when they come to your door. while i had UPS on the phone i asked if there were any other charges, the person said NO, you just pay taxes and NO brokerage. good deal. so keep this in mind people, you want something from the states fast and cheaper, ship EXPRESS only with UPS/FedEx.

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10-15-2008, 07:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
DumbasSi Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hamilton, ON Posts: 2,192 iTrader: 7 / 100%	I wonder why. Is the brokerage fee included somehow in the Express delivery? What did you buy?

10-15-2008, 08:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
Xenin Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brampton Age: 26 Posts: 4,066 K.C. -- Captain Projectors iTrader: 2 / 100%	i remember the UPS rep saying that it would be waived because of the express service. i'll have to see if i get any surprises in the mail but on the other hand why pay a COD if they would send me a bill in the mail?

10-15-2008, 08:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
Xenin Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brampton Age: 26 Posts: 4,066 K.C. -- Captain Projectors iTrader: 2 / 100%	looks like its brokerage free according to this: UPS: Rates for Customs Clearance into Canada

10-15-2008, 08:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
FastTimesAtFGHigh Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: LAX-YYZ Posts: 2,082 iTrader: 4,080 / 100% iTrader: 6 / 100%	nice tip. i'll have to keep that in mind.

10-15-2008, 08:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
DumbasSi Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hamilton, ON Posts: 2,192 iTrader: 7 / 100%	Very good to know. Should make it a sticky.

10-15-2008, 08:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
Xenin Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brampton Age: 26 Posts: 4,066 K.C. -- Captain Projectors iTrader: 2 / 100%	its a sticky in my head from now on.

10-15-2008, 08:47 PM	#8 (permalink)
bluetroll Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Markham, Ontario Posts: 1,394 NBP Si iTrader: 6 / 100%	also... if the seller declares the item for you and charges you duties/taxes when you pay... you won't need to pay any brokerage/duties/taxes.... no hidden fees when you get the package. that's the best way!

10-15-2008, 11:04 PM	#10 (permalink)
HoNgKoNgKoBe Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Toronto Age: 19 Posts: 2,951 Pete iTrader: 10 / 100%	subscribed so i can find this thread again. thanks for the info. shipping my HFP kit to toronto was a killer.

10-16-2008, 12:36 AM	#11 (permalink)
ViperSam Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 1,439 NOVICE Crew iTrader: 5 / 100%	damn. i'm glad you found this, KC. definitely gonna keep this in mind. hmmmm what to buy online next...

10-16-2008, 01:11 AM	#13 (permalink)
Xenin Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brampton Age: 26 Posts: 4,066 K.C. -- Captain Projectors iTrader: 2 / 100%	i was looking at the full HFP kit, its only about $300 less from hondapartsdeals.com. the size of the boxes kills the price. collegehills seems to have the better price which includes shipping so it shouldnt be that much more for express. the HFP brake kit is half the price it is in canada and express is about $200, thats worth it there.

10-16-2008, 08:59 AM	#14 (permalink)
FastTimesAtFGHigh Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: LAX-YYZ Posts: 2,082 iTrader: 4,080 / 100% iTrader: 6 / 100%	^ it's cheaper at jayhonda in ohio. i was thinking about driving down there to get it. google maps says 4 hour drive and change.

10-16-2008, 10:13 AM	#16 (permalink)
DeEmEn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Markham/Waterloo Posts: 3,231 Mike N iTrader: 0 / 0%	oh wow... didn't know that... I ordered a 60 dollars headphone from the US then they charged me 40 bucks for brokerage... I was like wtf? Thanks for the tips tho.

10-16-2008, 10:41 AM	#17 (permalink)
ViperSam Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 1,439 NOVICE Crew iTrader: 5 / 100%	I'm thinking about getting front HFP from the States somewhere... might drive down in the spring... we should have an HFP-buying caravan! lol

10-16-2008, 12:29 PM	#18 (permalink)
FastTimesAtFGHigh Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: LAX-YYZ Posts: 2,082 iTrader: 4,080 / 100% iTrader: 6 / 100%	^ yeah, i'm gonna combine it with a "ohio meet" in the spring.

10-16-2008, 12:37 PM	#19 (permalink)
szuberi Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Summit Posts: 3,847 SAL iTrader: 2 / 100%	UPS and Fedex do state on their websites that there is no brokerage involved if the parts are air shipped and i always get surprised when ppl say they dont know about this. all you pay in the end is GST equivalent give or take. KC...not everytime the express fee is a little different than ground however. in your case....it was low so you were lucky. in other instances, the extra shipping charge can pretty much eat any potential savings in brokerage fees. UPS has a lawsuit on their a$$ cuz of the excessive fee that they charge here in canada as well...dont know whats the status of that is at the moment. personally...i try to avoid them and look for USPS. another way of reducing these charges is to ask the vendor to declare a lower amount on the customs invoice but that can be good or bad depending who you buy from. some vendors dont agree to this and will only declare the true amount and also it may matter from an insurance and warranty standpoint.

10-16-2008, 12:38 PM	#20 (permalink)
szuberi Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Summit Posts: 3,847 SAL iTrader: 2 / 100%	btw...what the hell did you buy homie?