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Old 10-25-2007, 03:34 AM   #501 (permalink)
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I gotta go to sleep, but i just want to tell this. Webby i think that you do a lot for this site, like sending the 8th civic cards to people that ask for them for free, that's really amazing.
I think a lot of us overreacted with the thread closing, but i know it's not gonna be the same, basically because it feels like you closed something personal. I do understand what you come from with the whole selling thing, but at the same time, we know who we're dealing with. I'd rather sell something to someone i know than putting it up for sale on the forums. Like if i was selling anything, i would first put it on the thread and let them know to see if anyone is interested. I don't think i would let someone i don't know, buy something from me. I actually feel more secure selling something like that than posting it on the FS forum.
I know the rules have to be the same for all over the site and for everyone, but don't you think that maybe this time it was taken too serious? I mean that thread always had the same stuff going on, so i don't know why now was the time to close it.
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:36 AM   #503 (permalink)
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:40 AM   #505 (permalink)
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:41 AM   #506 (permalink)
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:47 AM   #507 (permalink)
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Old 10-25-2007, 04:56 AM   #510 (permalink)
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I gotta go to sleep, but i just want to tell this. Webby i think that you do a lot for this site, like sending the 8th civic cards to people that ask for them for free, that's really amazing.
I'm glad that yourself and others have expressed their appreciation for cards.

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I do understand what you come from with the whole selling thing, but at the same time, we know who we're dealing with.
Obviously some have not known who they were dealing with, or I wouldn't have had to be involved in tracking IP's, emailing, and such. Welcome to the net - there are a lot of scammers

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I'd rather sell something to someone i know than putting it up for sale on the forums. Like if i was selling anything, i would first put it on the thread and let them know to see if anyone is interested.
Make a sale thread, and state you are looking for local pickup only. It happens daily on the site. Then if you'd like to put the link into this thread - so be it. At least the sale thread is in the proper location and can be traced back to the FS area... and not on page 12k of an ongoing chat.
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Old 10-25-2007, 05:09 AM   #511 (permalink)
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you guys may also enjoy reading some of my fan mail

after 3 advertising posts including phone numbers, email addresses, and PM me for "hookup pricing" posts were removed.

two mods were involved and both received nasty PM responses from him.


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I see you were contacted by a few staff members and I honestly didn't care for your response to them.

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1. Sir, I have only answered questions that were posed to myself or members. I have in no way broken, or violated ANY site/forum rules or regs. I never once started a thread in regards to my services or sales. I would ask kindly that you do not delete any more of my posts unless there is certain violations of the vendors/sponsors requirements. It would be a definate breach of NAFTA's Internet Commerce Advertising and Marketing Compact. I know because I had to file a suit against another forum for letting a local competitor continue to post negative ads and bulletins in regards to myself and several other shops around town.
That would be known as libel. No one is saying anything bad about your "company". I like how you bring nafta into the pm.


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hey guys, just a question, since you guys are all from seattle (i'm from vancouver)...where is the closest shop to vancouver that you guys know of, that sells the HFP lip kit? or even performance parts? thanks
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Cool Dealers...

But if you need ANYTHING HFP, we can help. We make sure it is WHAT you want. We make sure you don't pay too much. And we can install it properly. That, is where they usually screw up.

Also, if you have a CLEAN, FAST, RELIABLE Honda or ACURA and are interested in a HFP Sponsorship Package, please let us know.

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I can't imagine why the staff would think you were advertising. I don't see anything above where you were giving out a phone number, and email addresses, or telling people that you have a shop for installation, ....best pricing,.... I guess I can stop there.

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Okay bro, I'm just gonna get real straight with you because nothing pisses me off more than people who think they are smart, actually do nothing but show their idiocracy...

1. You gotta be joking me?? I never started that thread. Never posted an ad at all. That was directed only at those few who needed that service and who asked a general question and got a general answer. Whether or not you think it was a violation, you will have to show up in court to argue your point, or suffer the consequences. I only answered/replied to a members post. I did nothing to warrant any deletion or "action" at all. I could easily prove in any court in or around the United States that I did no such thing as advertising. I am well within the rules and regs here. Thanks for lookin out though. PS -I went to school for law son, I am just begging for someone to let me put my education to use. I get off on making assholes show up at court hundreds of miles away to argue against me or my friends. And I really got of those guys asking for forgivness and begging me to allow them to relaunch their site, that was actually my site after the ruling.

2. LET ME SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU GUYS... Libeling has NOTHING to do with this situation bro. What should concern you is the 70+ hours (billed as research and submitted to the court for compensation) I did on the rules and laws that govern our countries' Internet Activies and Infrastructure. I know my rights, and you obviously, like almost every other mod I have dealt with besides my good friends, DO NOT. Like I said above, I really am just looking for a fight. And I have every intention of shutting down your lil site, even if only for a few weeks/months while this is sorted out. But really all I want is for you guys to recognise that I am right, and you were wrong. And if you did as much Civil Case study as I, you would know all about NAFTA's (updated 04/99) Internet Commerce Commmision and what they govern.

So thanks for all the mad love guys and I will be sure and lick your guys' balls {on the forum nly guys'-dont get your hopes up} after I set-up a shop account on that IP. Prolly use one of our sole proprietor Companies so that if we do have any other "situations" where you come at me like this, I will be in even better standing to bnring this lil forum of yours down. And as you are saving these messages somewhere, as am I, just keep in mind that really, I did not "ADVERTISE" and you are in the wrong. I will agree it was borderline, as I usaully keep it, but I do know I am within my boundaries. Even if I am not WELL WITHIN them lol. You might want to look up the exact definition of advertising btw.

And honestly, I don't care for you wannabee Honda Guys that get on the internet and think you are cool because you know about this or you know about that. Here are the facts:

I build fast cars, and you most likely do not.

I have gone 320KPH (Do the conversion yourself) in a Rotary-Powered Supercar that I BUILT in my fathers shop. If I mentioned his name you would prolly leave me be. But that would be no fun. You most likely have never gone faster than 140 or 150 MPH.

I spent 6 years in school and mastered arguing, presenting a argument in front of a judge, jury and/or witnesses. Your experiance in a courtroom is limited to pleading guilty and asking for forgivness for speeding through that photo-radar camera, all the while, hoping your insurance wouldn't go up very much.

I have crazy, movie-like sexual exploitations with multiple girls simutaneously, all involving my Import Model GF. I bet you know who she was if you read Imprt Tuner or Honda Tuning. You... Well uh... DONT lol.

I have my 9 second NHRA/IDRA licenses. You uh.. DO NOT.

I lose a thousand dollars at the track betting against myself and laugh it off. You uh.. well you know the answer.

I AM COOL. While you are, well... NOT.

Enjoy and I would expressively ask that you refrain from contacting me/us (My employees) in any manner unless I/We have violated your forums rules and regulations (and even then I would ask that you have someone else contact me/us). Any non-conformity to this request will constitute harrassment and will be graounds for further legal action. Or we can just meet up and handle it that way. Either way I will win. I always do. And keep in mind I have NOTHING better to do then to use my wi-fi kb and battle you lil-minded fools on my 42inch Samsung Plasma while my girl is cooking Lumpia, Pho, and Fried Pigeon. And I would do anything to get a shot at shutting this lil site down. I really would like to re-name it 8gencivic.com. 8thcivic is just a lame ass name man.

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Old 10-25-2007, 05:19 AM   #513 (permalink)
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BTW, here is where we are discussing your actions. These are doctors and lawyers and two of my best friends, one an ACLU attorney, has already come up with the basic legal premise we would use to sue the site, not to mention the appropriate network of process servers so we can serve the owner of record in any state. You might want to research "raceboy and my350z.com" I am as serious as a heart attack.

You wanted to piss me off, you have greatly succeeded. You know what they say, be careful what you wish for because you just might get it. Well, YOU GOT IT.
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Listen, here is my attorney's statement; "at this point they have exercised editorial control over the site which makes any moderating subject to civil litigation. They lose the liability protection of unmoderated content. Because this seems to stem from a dispute over religion your lack of religious belief is just as protected as a person's right to not be denied service or to not being provided a "separate but equal service" simply because or religious belief. These are the kind of cases we love."

He's one of my best friends and lives for crap just like this. I guess that's why he does so much pro bono work for the ACLU. Don't let pride dig you too deep a hole.
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This is my last email. You have 24 hours to rectify this. You guys want to spend $30K to defend "one of your boys" that is now your choice. Your move.

LOL, think I am kidding?? Like I said, research "Raceboy & www.my350z.com." We have already captured both threads and about 300 other comments that were simply racist, sexists, etc. that have been allowed to stand. If you think this is just a threat you are really underestimating me.
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does this shed a little bit of light into a day of email? Maybe it explains somewhat the amount of stuff dealt with and maybe why the mods do censor certain words and slang against race/religion etc? Things have consequences. You may look at the staff as a bunch of police, but they try to do what is best to keep the site in line. This is just a little taste into what goes on behind the scenes on a daily basis.... let alone on the boards.
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:49 AM   #517 (permalink)
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I see 52 pages later and this is still a big topic.......

See how the NE does it, no other part of the country has 6 mods watching over them.....lol
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