The "IS THIS A GOOD DEAL" Thread:

[cbondhonda]

Originally Posted by phenominalee

So I go into my honda dealer (Penske Honda - So Cal) today to put down a deposit on a white 4 dr 07 civic si w/navi. My salesman is with someone so I wait. He comes, get's my $$ says he's with someone but he'll do the deposit and get me a reciept. 20 min's later after I get tired of browsing the lot I walk by his desk area and another internet sales manager asks...

"Are you Ken's customer?"

"Yep" I reply.

He shakes my hand and says "Hi I'm Robin, Ken's busy, I'll take your deposit for him."

I go to get my reciept and he's like "Ok so has Ken told you the price on this car yet?"

I was like "negotioable".

He's responds "on this model, this color, w/navi we're gonna have to have you agree to pay msrp in order to take a deposit. Do you know what the price is?"

I respond again..."Negotiable" all the while w/a big smile on my face.

He says "I can't take a deposit on this veh unless you're willing to pay MSRP."

To which I reply "Look. I'm picking this car up in late July. I'm not paying MSRP on a 2007 model 1 month before the 2008 models come out...even if it is a white 4 door si w/navi. If I'm going to pay MSRP I'd rather wait 1 month and pay MSRP for a 2008 model, thanks."

He went to "go see the sales manager". Came back and told me that the sales manager wouldn't accept a deposit on this model w/out me agreeing to pay MSRP.

"What if someone comes in tomorrow who wants this same make/model, wants to put down a deposit and is willing to pay MSRP?" he says. "If you want to negotiate the price, we'll just call you when the car gets to the lot and if no one has put down a deposit then you can."

I see his logic, so I asked him. "Whats MSRP on this car?"

"I don't know." he replies.

I'm dumbfounded. "So you want me to agree to pay MSRP for this car, and you don't even know what it is?!" I ask.

My sales guy's desk is right next to where we're talking, so he walks over real quick. "What can we do to make you happy on this one?"

I said "First off, I'd like to know what MSRP is on this one and why I'm supposed to agree to pay MSRP if Robin can't even tell me what MSRP is on this car." "I'm supposed to agree to a # I havn't seen and he can't tell me?"

My sales guy said he would take care of it, he had to get back to his customer and walked away.

Robin says again. "If you want to negotiate the price, we'll just call you when the car gets to the lot and if no one has put down a deposit then you can."

"Alright" I said.

I stood up, and walked out. I wasn't too irritated, he had a point. I'm a reasonable guy. It did bother me though that he wanted me to agree to pay MSRP and he couldn't quote the MSRP price & he wasn't even my salesman.

So I get a call from the dealership at about 8pm tonight. I let it go to voicemail cause I'm with my fiance. It's my salesguy. He offers $800-1k over invoice, call and put the deposit over the phone so you don't have to drive to the dealership again.

So I shot him an e-mail. Asked him to get me a quote on the price for 800 over invoice, to break down all fee's and taxes and include an out the door price in the quote. Once we agree on the price, I'll call and put the deposit.

---ok---

1) Am I being unreasonable?

2) What out the door price should I be looking at for $800 over invoice?

3) Consider, my sales guy likes me cause I bought the first Si to hit the lot in 05 at MSRP...didn't even test drive the car, I knew I wanted it.

4) What's a reasonable trade value for an 06 si w/18k miles? It's real clean 1 minor door ding (I hate it!!!)

Thanks in advance for your help!

T.

No reason for you to have to agree to a Number untill you are happy with the car. We take 250.00 Fully Refundable Deposits on anything incoming and when it gets here it is priced.

SI's are usually MSRP or 500-800 under .......sometimes even better....but you cant agree to a price if it doesnt even exist yet.

[lpv]

So is 17,000 for my 1 month old 2007 ex sudan with 1200 miles a good trade in? This same dealership was going to give me the si sudan for "flat invoice" and find the color of my chioce through a dealer trade. Do you recommend dealer trades (for the right color) and are the demo vehicles the ones that are traded? Thanks in advance.

[bgenora]

I'm looking to buy a FBP 2007 Honda Civic Si Coupe w/Nav. I knew due to it's popularity, it would be hard to find. I inquired at a nearby dealership about special ordering and I was told it wouldn't be a problem. The car at the dealership, although they don't have one on the lot, is being sold under msrp at 23199. I wanted to squeeze a few more bucks out of the deal, so I offered to buy it for 22750.

Once I got to the dealership to discuss it more, the sales manager told me that civic si's w/ nav are no longer available for special order and that Honda is actually telling them, NO we are not taking any more orders for that 07 model of this car. However, he also informed me that on June 22nd the next allotment will be available and he'll be able to find out whether or not I can special order an 07 then, or maybe even an 08. If it was an 08 civic si w/nav, I could special order it in June and possibly have it by September. I requested pricing on the 08s and he speculated that if they didn't do any major car changes it would be $300-$500 higher than msrp is now. If changes were evident, then $500 - $700 more.

So, am I getting the run around or is there any truth to his story. Oh, and as for getting it from nearby dealerships. Nobody has one within the tri-state area. I live in Dover Delaware, zip code 19902. Thanks!

[slicknick]

girl wants a CR-V

has credit score of 640, makes 42k/year

2007 EX 4WD
48m Lease. 12,000m/yr
374/m
2500 down - cash+trade

is this high?

MSRP is like 24k

[rpm824]

So its still possible to go in certain dealerships and request a white sedan si w/ navi... the places I've called told me they wouldnt get that in... especially with navi... they told me that it was too rare... I'm looking for one in either Washington or North Carolina area... I will be stationed there next month and either I get it home on leave or when I get there.... I got the cash to throw down too... Anyone got any ideas?

[cheaChea]

Originally Posted by cbondhonda

Hell Yeah its good....especially if you can get the Special APR too........

thx man ended up getting a slightly better deal :). I am very happy with my car. defintely better than a '07 corrolla s.

[dsabin71]

I'm getting a 'deal' of $20,200 "out the door" price on a 2007 Honda Civic EX in the nighthawk black color. That's all taxes, title / reg / plates / docs / fees and includes the cargo net, wheel locks and splash guards as well.

Also I was offered another deal at $20,477 for the same black 2007 Honda Civic EX 'out the door' but this place will warranty the car for any mechanical breakdown issues to 110,000 miles and all labor is covered for anything, I'd just have to pay for parts as long as we kept up on all the required dealer maintenance at the specified intervals and they will also let us use a demo car while our car is being worked on.

I haven't dealt with this sort of an offer before - but they are pretty damn close to each other - and I'm thinking for the extra $277 - that is a pretty good price on a warranty for free labor after the manufacturers warranty is expired at 3 yr / 36000 miles.

What do you think?

[cbondhonda]

Originally Posted by dsabin71

I'm getting a 'deal' of $20,200 "out the door" price on a 2007 Honda Civic EX in the nighthawk black color. That's all taxes, title / reg / plates / docs / fees and includes the cargo net, wheel locks and splash guards as well.

Also I was offered another deal at $20,477 for the same black 2007 Honda Civic EX 'out the door' but this place will warranty the car for any mechanical breakdown issues to 110,000 miles and all labor is covered for anything, I'd just have to pay for parts as long as we kept up on all the required dealer maintenance at the specified intervals and they will also let us use a demo car while our car is being worked on.

I haven't dealt with this sort of an offer before - but they are pretty damn close to each other - and I'm thinking for the extra $277 - that is a pretty good price on a warranty for free labor after the manufacturers warranty is expired at 3 yr / 36000 miles.

What do you think?

As long as all they are telling you Warranty wise is in WRITING and in your hands BEFORE you sign anything, I cant see why it would not be a "Good Deal"

Just make sure that what they are telling you is true and in writing in a contract form before you go to the Buisness manager to sign papers.

Good Luck and make sure you post the results here!

Chris

[drfters13]

well i bought a 2006 asm Si with 6000K had foglights, auto dim mirror, cargo net, cargo mat, rsx a-spec rims, for 19,250. thats before taxes and everything else, i also got the extended warranty(1,350, low-jack(650) and sales tax around 2K? i make payments of 336.04 a month for six yrs! so im sure i'm paying 28k if i stay with the same payment! APR is around 9 something. is there anyway of lowering it?

[drfters13]

bump!!

[MAS33820]

Wassup..I'm planning on getting a NHBP 4dr SI. I'm considering leasing. All dealerships I've spoken to I've told them I plan to finance so I can get the cleanest numbers. Yesterday I emailed one of the dealerships and I told them if they can work out a lease agreement for me.

Here's what she wrote me:

"A 36 month lease with 12k miles/year would be $259/mo plus tax and that is with $2,299 down plus fees."

I wrote:

"Ok..Can I get extra mileage..say about 15,000..how much would that be per month. And what would the required down payment be? What other "fees" are we talking about?"

She wrote:

"The payment will go up approximately $20-25 more per month. Fees are the $595 Bank Fee, first months payment, tax on down money, motor vehicle costs(tags etc) and $139 Doc. Fee."

Ok..so what do u guys think about the downpayment, monthly payments, etc. And what the hell is that $600 bank fee for? I haven't really considered leasing till recently.

Lemme hear it. Honest opinions please! Thanks.

[cbondhonda]

Originally Posted by drfters13

well i bought a 2006 asm Si with 6000K had foglights, auto dim mirror, cargo net, cargo mat, rsx a-spec rims, for 19,250. thats before taxes and everything else, i also got the extended warranty(1,350, low-jack(650) and sales tax around 2K? i make payments of 336.04 a month for six yrs! so im sure i'm paying 28k if i stay with the same payment! APR is around 9 something. is there anyway of lowering it?

Not that I really know of.................

Try finding a Company that will refinance your current loan...depending on what your credit looks like.

That might be possible....I just try to advise against it most cases.

[cbondhonda]

Originally Posted by MAS33820

Wassup..I'm planning on getting a NHBP 4dr SI. I'm considering leasing. All dealerships I've spoken to I've told them I plan to finance so I can get the cleanest numbers. Yesterday I emailed one of the dealerships and I told them if they can work out a lease agreement for me.

Here's what she wrote me:

"A 36 month lease with 12k miles/year would be $259/mo plus tax and that is with $2,299 down plus fees."

I wrote:

"Ok..Can I get extra mileage..say about 15,000..how much would that be per month. And what would the required down payment be? What other "fees" are we talking about?"

She wrote:

"The payment will go up approximately $20-25 more per month. Fees are the $595 Bank Fee, first months payment, tax on down money, motor vehicle costs(tags etc) and $139 Doc. Fee."

Ok..so what do u guys think about the downpayment, monthly payments, etc. And what the hell is that $600 bank fee for? I haven't really considered leasing till recently.

Lemme hear it. Honest opinions please! Thanks.

Your about to get robbed.

What state are you in?

[MAS33820]

Originally Posted by cbondhonda

Your about to get robbed.

What state are you in?

I'm in NY. But I'm goin to register the car in Pa.

Explain please !!!

[cbondhonda]

Originally Posted by MAS33820

I'm in NY. But I'm goin to register the car in Pa.

Explain please !!!

Are they quoting you a Lease Special....or a Standard Lease???????

[MAS33820]

Man I don't even kno..screw them lol.

I just got another lease quote from a dealership in NY:

$200 a month...36 months. $2500 down which includes the first month's payment. $60 doc fee.

What do you think CB?

[cbondhonda]

Originally Posted by MAS33820

Man I don't even kno..screw them lol.

I just got another lease quote from a dealership in NY:

$200 a month...36 months. $2500 down which includes the first month's payment. $60 doc fee.

What do you think CB?

Sounds much better.....but also find out what the total is you are going to owe at time of Lease Termination....and make sure you can walk away from it with out paying anything

[MAS33820]

Originally Posted by cbondhonda

Sounds much better.....but also find out what the total is you are going to owe at time of Lease Termination....and make sure you can walk away from it with out paying anything

I will..I'm goin into the dealership to speak with them next week. Let's see what happens..

[340six]

Looking to get a 07 Civic EX with auto For the wife {She wants a 2 door ex civic since it looks sporty said the accord looks grandma looking even with 2 doors}
want a black on black{or gray} or red one. whats a good deal?
Also dealers look at me funny when i say i am paying cash!They realy want to finace a car guess they get a kick back{incentive?}
Anyway as late as it is in the game will probery wait and just get an 08.
dealer is telling me no incentive at 07 end on civic since they sell so many{i find that hard to belive}
That they will proberly have incentive on 07 acccords since body changes are commong in 08? what do the 08 look like? what would ya do? kevin

[340six]

Ok sorry i am in the new orleans area one place said they will have an accord 4 door demo but thats it!
I would not mind a demo if someone had a 2 door ex civic?
Is the msrp going to go way up on the 08 civics?