wow you are very intellectual with your response especially the info with the other cars. you are right i should go more balls out with my Si, and i do here an there, its just im not much of a racer or show off. but like you said its all about peoples personailties. i honestly didnt even want another honda after my 05 dx coupe but with all the standard option with the Si for 22k was just a great deal in my eyes. i forgot to say im not trying to bash those other cars i mentioned or havea Si Vs this and that. those are great cars and i would like to be driving them anyday, its just for me personally the Si lives of up to my needs just fine. but of course everyone has different needs just like you said.