Predictions and wear and tear items.

[boltuprite]

I predict that even if the car was absoultely perfect you'd still find something to bitch about.

[User_name:]

Originally Posted by ArmyofOne

HOLY HELL. The trans in the Si has got to be one of the worst i have ever driven...and my buddy has an 01 saturn coupe with a 5spd...it felt better than the civic during spirited driving) the trans, and fuel cost are the 2 reasons i opted for the EX Sedan over the Si Sedan (Wifey cant drive stick, but even if she could, she wouldnt drive the Si...i didnt even like it. I dont know how you Si guys deal.) so i got an Auto, and thus far i am quite pleased with it, although it is clumsy when getting going from a rolling stop.

Wow, the best tranny I have ever had, is in the Si. Shifts sooo easy and smooth, you can use your pinky finger to shift if you want lol. Ohh and the shifts are soo short its GREAT.. The best hands down

Ohh And I dont really think you can drive spirited in a 01 saturn coupe lolz
I drove one before, and was scared to take it to 4k rpms felt like the motor was going to blow

[07Ex]

Originally Posted by boltuprite

I predict that even if the car was absoultely perfect you'd still find something to bitch about.

LOL!

Originally Posted by 06CivEXJon

Here is a list of common problems with the 8th gen civics and most if not all USDM Civics are built in Canada.

Do you think that the car being built in Canada has anything to do with the problems you are listing?

[boltuprite]

Originally Posted by 07Ex

LOL!



Do you think that the car being built in Canada has anything to do with the problems you are listing?

LOL... yeah maybe the line workers in Alliston are too busy scarfing down TIMBITS to build a solid car.....

[ryanmcm83]

I agree, the tranny is awesome, especially with Amsoil MTF. Short shifter + cable bushing and you got awesome throw and solid engagement to boot. ppl that have problems with the car being jerky need to readjust their seat forward and drive like a race driver would position his car, so that you have your leg well bent when you have the clutch fully depressed. Otherwise the sensitive control is not being dealt with the strongest part of your leg. Also sitting closer will plant you properly in the seat with full lombar support and will give you great stability in tight corners as well as great feedback on what the car is doing. I agree also with rev matching. Just get used to it and you won't know the difference. All cars and trannys behave different, so you gotta drive em different. DER!!

If you want the car to drive smooth, you have to drive it smooth. No jerky throttle, brake, or clutch action. Squeezzzeee That is rule #1 of the racing bible, even sorta applies to drag racing.
Oh and don't look at the tach when you shift either up or down. Use your ears and listen for that ~1000rpm drop in order to revmatch. Blipping up 1krpm should be heard/felt and heel-toe is mostly felt and a little heard. The ideal position for the stock steering wheel pretty much blocks the numbers on the tach (at least for me), and I can only see 7,8,9krpm, which is just fine for letting me know when to shift.

[06CivEXJon]

Originally Posted by 07Ex

Do you think that the car being built in Canada has anything to do with the problems you are listing?

Yes,there is no QC at the Alliston plant at all. If our civics were made in Japan we wouldn't be having any problems with our civics. i saw a 07 MDX at the dealer lot the vin stated it was made in Canada and i couldn't believe the gaps and poor quality on a 40k vehicle! My buddy's 07 CRV is made in Japan and it's built better than our civics and the MDX. The problem with Honda and Toyota is the North American plants,they should close down the Alliston one and move the production to Ohio or Japan. Over 90% of Honda and Toyota vehicles sold in the U.S are made in North America. Both companies should shut down alot of plants in N/A and resume production in Japan where the quality is alot better.

[07Ex]

Originally Posted by 06CivEXJon

Yes,there is no QC at the Alliston plant at all.

I am not sure where you see all these Hondas made at Alliston that have all these kind of problems, because in my family we own 4 Civics, all built in Alliston and none of us have had any problems. My first EK hatch I've owned for 10 years, and other than oil, gas, and regular maintenance I didn't have to do anything to it.

I agree that there could be lemons out there, but for one person to get them all or see them all is a bit far fetched.

Originally Posted by 06CivEXJon

they should close down the Alliston one and move the production to Ohio or Japan.

Are you kidding me? Moving the plant to Japan would mean a higher production cost. Who would buy a Civic if the price would be $3K more?

As for your other comment to move production to Ohio ... all I have to say is

Why not move production to Mexico instead?

[SpareNoExpenses]

Originally Posted by rob76

It gives me time to shift easy which is a lot better for the trans in the long run anyway. I like to shift smooth. If you're feeling your car jerk you need some practice.

Originally Posted by rob76

Why don't you wait for your rev's to match beofre letting the clutch back out. If you're shifting below v-tec you're obviously not in that much of a hurry are you?

Hate to quote myself from another thread here but:

Originally Posted by SpareNoExpenses

Ok.. if you are just going to post something about "learn how to drive a stick" then don't bother. I've been surprised how little people know anything about what's going on before they try to add their common sense to the problem. Here is a link..

FAQ:: Rev Hang DBW Bog Reflash Update Revhang Rev-hang HDS bogging FAQ:: Rev Hang DBW Bog Reflash Update Revhang Rev-hang HDS bogging

PS: People OUTSIDE of these VIN numbers listed sometimes have the problem. Get it checked.

[zipn8gnsisedan]

I agree about the 'learn to drive stick' comment. I've probably been driving stick longer(32 years!!) then they've been on this earth. I had the reflash done on my 07 even though it was outside of the vin range. The dealership said it took the flash though. I didn't notice any improvement in the revhang and still have the surging when cold. Its a joke to have my car run for 5 minutes when its 50 degrees out if I want to eliminate the surging!!

[Rawhyde]

I predict that after 5 years, I'll have close to 220,000 miles on my car. I'm guessing that the following parts will be replaced:

2 sets of front rotors
4 sets of front pads
1 set of rear drums
2 sets of rear shoes
4 serpentine belts
1 alternator
20 tires
20 valve stems
1 set of shocks
2 headlight bulbs
1 set of radiator hoses
5 air filters
5 interior air filters
70 oil filters
280 quarts of oil
30 quarts of manual trans fluid
32 spark plugs
2 ignition coils
40 wiper blades
50 gallons of washer fluid
5 misc smaller light bulbs
1 battery
1 set of CV Joints
1 set of wheel bearings
6100 gallons of gas

and if we're really unlucky, 1 clutch, pressure plate, throwout bearing, and pilot bearing.

That's my prediction. (and yes I know that I change oil, filters, and plugs more often than the book says I need to)

Rawhyde

[tite681]

Originally Posted by rob76

I have a million issues with the car but we have to realise it's just a base civic with a $8000 upgrade in motor and suspension parts. Take a base civic and put a stiff suspension on it and it's going to rattle as well.

I couldn't have said it better myself. We have kick ass powertrain, drivetrain, suspension, and brakes for the money. Honda had to skimp somewhere. Fortunately, I haven't experienced the rattles yet.

[Opticon]

ive noticed its hard to drive at low rpm, i mean i dont really feel comfortable crusing in 6th at 60 mph at 3500 rpm. in my accord going the same speed in 5th, im only doing 2300 rpm. i think this will have an affect on down the road. such as faster wear and tear on the motor

[SpareNoExpenses]

Originally Posted by zipn8gnsisedan

I agree about the 'learn to drive stick' comment. I've probably been driving stick longer(32 years!!) then they've been on this earth. I had the reflash done on my 07 even though it was outside of the vin range. The dealership said it took the flash though. I didn't notice any improvement in the revhang and still have the surging when cold. Its a joke to have my car run for 5 minutes when its 50 degrees out if I want to eliminate the surging!!

Fair enough, been driving stick about the same duration here

[08civicman]

Originally Posted by Opticon

ive noticed its hard to drive at low rpm, i mean i dont really feel comfortable crusing in 6th at 60 mph at 3500 rpm. in my accord going the same speed in 5th, im only doing 2300 rpm. i think this will have an affect on down the road. such as faster wear and tear on the motor

Another one of you people scared to rev your engine. IT HAS A GODDAM 8300 RPM REDLINE, and your scared of cruising at 60mph (which by the way puts you right around 3000RPM) The engine is geard to keep the engine singing. If your scared to goto high rpm buy a basemodel civic and you can then cruise at 60 mph around the same rpm as your accord.

I regularly cruise at 140-150 around 4000 RPM and the engine loves it!

I dont think ive ever heard people bitch so much about something so minor/stupid.

YOU BOUGHT A CIVIC

NOT A MAYBACH!

[fern2021]

Originally Posted by Opticon

ive noticed its hard to drive at low rpm, i mean i dont really feel comfortable crusing in 6th at 60 mph at 3500 rpm. in my accord going the same speed in 5th, im only doing 2300 rpm. i think this will have an affect on down the road. such as faster wear and tear on the motor

6th gear, 60mph, at 3500rpm?? Are you sure? I'd believe you if you said 5th gear, but not 6th.

[fern2021]

Originally Posted by 08civicman

Another one of you people scared to rev your engine. IT HAS A GODDAM 8300 RPM REDLINE, and your scared of cruising at 60mph (which by the way puts you right around 3000RPM) The engine is geard to keep the engine singing. If your scared to goto high rpm buy a basemodel civic and you can then cruise at 60 mph around the same rpm as your accord.

I regularly cruise at 140-150 around 4000 RPM and the engine loves it!

I dont think ive ever heard people bitch so much about something so minor/stupid.

YOU BOUGHT A CIVIC

NOT A MAYBACH!

140-150? Are those mph or km/h?

[SoCal07Si]

I'm at 3000 at 65 in 6th

[Opticon]

ya, i double checked it today and yes ur right, in 5th.

[08civicman]

Originally Posted by fern2021

140-150? Are those mph or km/h?

KM, If it was miles id have to call BS on myself. lol

Considering the Si is speed governed at around 215 km/h (133mph) crusing at that speed is also impossible.

[SpareNoExpenses]

Since when have they been putting speed governors on USDM Hondas?