Honda TSB 08-020 April 12, 2008 (3RD GEAR) - Page 77

White Knight · 07-16-2008, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Si-aficionado

^That's the first thing the mechanic offered me and I denied. They were obviously looking for the easy way out.

if there is a problem with your gear, why would you have denied a replacement?

Si-aficionado · 07-16-2008, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by White Knight

if there is a problem with your gear, why would you have denied a replacement?

What I meant is I denied his offer to change just the tranny oil which is what he offered me in the first place. Supposedly he did this to another customer and it solved the issue, but I know my car's problem was beyond a simple change of oil. Needless to say, once he took appart the tranny, he said he found metal pieces from the grinding..

btw..the rental is not "free of charge", nothing is. You pay $100 deposit for the car they give you and you get your money back when you return the car..at least that's how they do it down here

***maximus20895*** · 07-16-2008, 12:50 PM

took it in yesterday. I'll see how it goes..

White Knight · 07-16-2008, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Si-aficionado

What I meant is I denied his offer to change just the tranny oil which is what he offered me in the first place. Supposedly he did this to another customer and it solved the issue, but I know my car's problem was beyond a simple change of oil. Needless to say, once he took appart the tranny, he said he found metal pieces from the grinding..

btw..the rental is not "free of charge", nothing is. You pay $100 deposit for the car they give you and you get your money back when you return the car..at least that's how they do it down here

yeah, i agree. i think mine is beyound the oil change too.

***hoonu*** · 07-16-2008, 01:07 PM

Just to clear things up, I did in fact have the 3rd gear set replaced and I was first on the waiting list at my dealership and they took the entire day to do it.

RobertsD · 07-16-2008, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Si-aficionado

btw..the rental is not "free of charge", nothing is. You pay $100 deposit for the car they give you and you get your money back when you return the car..at least that's how they do it down here

Yeah, I had to put a $50 deposit down, but it was refunded about a day after I returned the car.

tac · 07-16-2008, 09:52 PM

I just got my car back today and they replaced the 3rd gear. The dealer also replaced my catalytic converter due to an engine light. As soon as I pull out the parking lot, I hear this winding noise. It gets louder as the RPM goes up, and goes away when I stop. I take it right back to them, and they send a tech out. And this tech guy is old and a jerk and says he can't hear anything. So they said another guy, and he says he hears it, but doesn't know where it is coming from or if that's how it's "suppose" to sound. I had my car for two years now, I know what it sounds like and it's not suppose to make that sound. Now I have to go back on Monday or Tuesday to go see the service manager. Any suggestions what it could be?

**Tim** · 07-16-2008, 10:36 PM

After 3 months of waiting, the part(s) are FINALLY in, and I've got an appointment for replacement. Somehow I think my repair slipped through the cracks. There's no way this is happening on a first-come, first-serve basis.

RobertsD · 07-16-2008, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim

After 3 months of waiting, the part(s) are FINALLY in, and I've got an appointment for replacement. Somehow I think my repair slipped through the cracks. There's no way this is happening on a first-come, first-serve basis.

Mine took about 7 weeks to come in.

Seth7517 · 07-16-2008, 11:59 PM

mine has been in the shop for two days so far i hope they dont mess things up...i'll keep my fingers crossed. But then again i made SURE there was a problem with my third gear, i could pretty much put it in third gear and it would not move at all.

***portabuddy*** · 07-17-2008, 12:21 AM

Tee minus 5hours and 35min till drop off for me. lets hope that this ti,e they dont f!@# up the rest of the gears like last time... and yes they are giving me a free of charge 100% free rental...

off there lot of 20 donar vechicals...

eliptik · 07-17-2008, 04:12 AM

I just dropped mine off this morning and they said it should be ready by tomorrow. I can't wait until it's fixed, no more 3rd gear problems!!

PhoR11 · 07-17-2008, 01:20 PM

Tip for the guys who are having trouble with their dealership replicating the problem.

My "third gear wall" is incredibly sporadic, but it seems to happen at least once a day.
Mine's not so bad that it pops out of gear or grinds, but it's just incredibly annoying to have to shift back to second or fourth and then into third again or actually FORCE it into gear when it happens (which can't be good for the tranny).

With that said, I believe I've found a way to help the mechanic "replicate" the problem.

1) get the car rolling through first, second
2) clutch in and shift into third
3) if you don't get the "wall", keep the clutch in and shift back to neutral, then back to third a couple times
4) if you still don't get the bad shift, shift back into second and clutch out to get the tranny spinning again and repeat.

The key is to have the tranny spinning while you're shifting in and out of third to catch the "bad spot" that's causing the wall.

***1SloSiChick*** · 07-17-2008, 08:48 PM

^^^yeah doesn't convince mine still. i did that....went through the gears about 7 times at different speeds, different agressiveness...etc. AND on top of all that the mechanic is a friend of mine and he can't even convince them to let it go through even though i can't replicate it on the test drive.

so i text him every morning when it grinds and any other time during the day that it grinds so maybe he'll get fed up and convince his boss to let it go through.

infiniti_4_life · 07-17-2008, 09:22 PM

^ you should start texting the boss and get on his nerves. That will get it fixed for sure

***1SloSiChick*** · 07-17-2008, 09:34 PM

^^^lololol right! doubt anyone will give me his number for that exact reason! lol

***portabuddy*** · 07-17-2008, 09:55 PM

WOOOTTTT!!!!! dropped mine off...

I love my dealership... took it in shoot(word?) the shit with him for like 10 min. gave him my key, got my donar car, then took off... said it'd be done next week... told him to keep it for however long as it takes...

no test drive no hastle... and im in canada.

EastJunglez22 · 07-17-2008, 10:43 PM

ok now that i have the issue fixed now my problem is

to short shift or not to short shift

i took it off before i brought it in..

***portabuddy*** · 07-17-2008, 11:46 PM

lol the otherday i was driving around and realized that in order to keep from popping out of gear i try to revmatch as much as posable it like 2-3 rpm... well the knotch feels just as bad or actuly a bit better then if i dont use a clutch at all...

then i realized that i tought my self how to drive without a clutch?, without so much as a GRRRRRT!, nothing... and with our cars and there touchyness thats not easy.

infiniti_4_life · 07-18-2008, 05:56 PM

^ I'm lost as to what you are doing again....

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07-16-2008, 01:07 PM	#1525 (permalink)
*hoonu* VIP Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 445 iTrader: 3 / 100%	Just to clear things up, I did in fact have the 3rd gear set replaced and I was first on the waiting list at my dealership and they took the entire day to do it.

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tac Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 6 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I just got my car back today and they replaced the 3rd gear. The dealer also replaced my catalytic converter due to an engine light. As soon as I pull out the parking lot, I hear this winding noise. It gets louder as the RPM goes up, and goes away when I stop. I take it right back to them, and they send a tech out. And this tech guy is old and a jerk and says he can't hear anything. So they said another guy, and he says he hears it, but doesn't know where it is coming from or if that's how it's "suppose" to sound. I had my car for two years now, I know what it sounds like and it's not suppose to make that sound. Now I have to go back on Monday or Tuesday to go see the service manager. Any suggestions what it could be?

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Tim Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 29 Posts: 5,300 iTrader: 10 / 100%	After 3 months of waiting, the part(s) are FINALLY in, and I've got an appointment for replacement. Somehow I think my repair slipped through the cracks. There's no way this is happening on a first-come, first-serve basis.

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Seth7517 Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 7 iTrader: 0 / 0%	mine has been in the shop for two days so far i hope they dont mess things up...i'll keep my fingers crossed. But then again i made SURE there was a problem with my third gear, i could pretty much put it in third gear and it would not move at all.

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eliptik Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Fresno, CA Age: 18 Posts: 233 Michael iTrader: 0 / 0%	I just dropped mine off this morning and they said it should be ready by tomorrow. I can't wait until it's fixed, no more 3rd gear problems!!

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PhoR11 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Oklahoma Age: 27 Posts: 588 Bradley iTrader: 0 / 0%	Tip for the guys who are having trouble with their dealership replicating the problem. My "third gear wall" is incredibly sporadic, but it seems to happen at least once a day. Mine's not so bad that it pops out of gear or grinds, but it's just incredibly annoying to have to shift back to second or fourth and then into third again or actually FORCE it into gear when it happens (which can't be good for the tranny). With that said, I believe I've found a way to help the mechanic "replicate" the problem. 1) get the car rolling through first, second 2) clutch in and shift into third 3) if you don't get the "wall", keep the clutch in and shift back to neutral, then back to third a couple times 4) if you still don't get the bad shift, shift back into second and clutch out to get the tranny spinning again and repeat. The key is to have the tranny spinning while you're shifting in and out of third to catch the "bad spot" that's causing the wall.

07-17-2008, 08:48 PM	#1534 (permalink)
*1SloSiChick* Chicks Dig VTEC Too! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: FredEricksburg, Va/Tucson, Az?? Age: 24 Posts: 1,090 Colleen {i-VTEC, Do You?} iTrader: 0 / 0%	^^^yeah doesn't convince mine still. i did that....went through the gears about 7 times at different speeds, different agressiveness...etc. AND on top of all that the mechanic is a friend of mine and he can't even convince them to let it go through even though i can't replicate it on the test drive. so i text him every morning when it grinds and any other time during the day that it grinds so maybe he'll get fed up and convince his boss to let it go through.

07-17-2008, 09:22 PM	#1535 (permalink)
infiniti_4_life Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sunshine State Age: 21 Posts: 782 Artem iTrader: 3 / 100%	^ you should start texting the boss and get on his nerves. That will get it fixed for sure

07-17-2008, 09:34 PM	#1536 (permalink)
*1SloSiChick* Chicks Dig VTEC Too! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: FredEricksburg, Va/Tucson, Az?? Age: 24 Posts: 1,090 Colleen {i-VTEC, Do You?} iTrader: 0 / 0%	^^^lololol right! doubt anyone will give me his number for that exact reason! lol

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EastJunglez22 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Naples, FL Age: 21 Posts: 875 Fonzy iTrader: 1 / 100%	ok now that i have the issue fixed now my problem is to short shift or not to short shift i took it off before i brought it in..

07-18-2008, 05:56 PM	#1540 (permalink)
infiniti_4_life Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sunshine State Age: 21 Posts: 782 Artem iTrader: 3 / 100%	^ I'm lost as to what you are doing again....