Honda TSB 08-020 April 12, 2008 (3RD GEAR) - Page 7

unicii · 04-13-2008, 02:14 PM

So, someone posted a question regarding people who got their fluids replaced...
Was wondering if anyone had any feed back on this?

Basically, for all of those, and there are lots who brought their si in about third gear grind and got new tranny oil that (masked) the problem.... Is it going to be pretty likely that we can get this tsb applied to our car if we bring in the slip regarding when it was first identified....?

Funny thing also, i brought my si in this friday to get an oil change and the tranny seemed super smooth after leaving... Hope these guys didn't see the tsb and lubed me up so they don't have to see me for a while... in any event, i plan to bring in my slip where they found the issue and put in different tranny oil

... Thoughts anyone?

I mean, the logic is .. this is a hardware issue that is recognized....
Oil masked it and didn't fix it and for those who got the oil replacement... They should get the actual fix...

Hmmm, also my si is making a noise ... increased throttle anywhere from third gear on starting at 3krpm .. it is an increasingly louder whine ...
Sounds like :
YouTube - 3rd gear pull with PAR Straight gears in
YouTube - Straight Cut Gears
but not sooo loud...
But yeah, when he backs off the gas and that jerky whine...
I hear all of that? is it also a part of this bad synchro...

Never heard this sound before in any manual tranny and it sounds like something is off in the tranny to me? Bad synchro?

***BlackOut070*** · 04-13-2008, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by malditoron

yea i vote to sticky it too...this should be right up there w/ the 3rd gear newscast.

Do you guys think HONDA got it right this time though?

AND It kinda scares me that they gotta rip the whole transmission apart and try to piece it back together....especially if its some newbie mechanic.

I'm just scared imma walk out w/ more problems then i walked in with.

They wouldn't give a tranny to a noob mechanic.

When I was working at chrysler they had this one master tech that did tranny's only. Everyone went to him for any tranny issue.

If they do the TSB then they'll give to the tranny technician, not some noob that only knows LOF's.

shdw06 · 04-13-2008, 02:20 PM

im going to my dealer tomorrow!!!!!! to see if this is legit

lionelp · 04-13-2008, 02:20 PM

Got mine done back in February.

**Yodums** · 04-13-2008, 02:26 PM

Thank you! Now we know Canada DOES have the same part that Honda America uses.

lionelp · 04-13-2008, 02:28 PM

No problem Yodums! Anything to help!

K20Redline · 04-13-2008, 03:17 PM

Interesting I had my service manager drive my car and it happened to him into third gear and said he would talk to his rep and let me know haven't herd from him since but ill surprise him instead of the other way! And on top of that I will ask for a new clutch =) cause it caused a lot of damage the 3rd gear grind.

lionelp · 04-13-2008, 03:19 PM

Nice!!!!!

KSE · 04-13-2008, 03:20 PM

2006–07 Civic Si 2-Door: ALL

??? I haven't had any problem w/ mine

K20Redline · 04-13-2008, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSE

2006–07 Civic Si 2-Door: ALL

??? I haven't had any problem w/ mine

Well then don't worry about and they wont do it unless it happens to you other wise they will give you the same stealership crap of cant replicate

ha I went to my dealer like 4 times till it happened with the manager.

lionelp · 04-13-2008, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSE

2006–07 Civic Si 2-Door: ALL

??? I haven't had any problem w/ mine

It's a good idea to bring it in anyways. It wouldn't hurt.

KSE · 04-13-2008, 03:29 PM

yeah ima call

lionelp · 04-13-2008, 03:30 PM

Better to be safe than sorry... thats always my motto...

K20Redline · 04-13-2008, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lionelp

It's a good idea to bring it in anyways. It wouldn't hurt.

I don't thinks so I mean hes not having a problem I mean if I dident I wouldn't go either but what ever floats your boat worst be if you went in with a car with out the issue and came out with it

lionelp · 04-13-2008, 03:32 PM

true... then again... anything can happen

KSE · 04-13-2008, 03:34 PM

haha yeah im not gonna go unless something happens

lionelp · 04-13-2008, 03:37 PM

I guess you're one of the lucky ones!

KSE · 04-13-2008, 04:10 PM

I hope so

***mad monkey*** · 04-13-2008, 04:13 PM

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.... too bad it's my second gear that shits out and not third... but anyways... WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO@!!!!!!!!!!!!

BlackHammer · 04-13-2008, 04:18 PM

And some of our own members here thought it could be our "technique" and not a problem with the car. Maybe we all don't suck at driving stick after all..

04-13-2008, 02:14 PM	#121 (permalink)
unicii Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 42 iTrader: 0 / 0%	So, someone posted a question regarding people who got their fluids replaced... Was wondering if anyone had any feed back on this? Basically, for all of those, and there are lots who brought their si in about third gear grind and got new tranny oil that (masked) the problem.... Is it going to be pretty likely that we can get this tsb applied to our car if we bring in the slip regarding when it was first identified....? Funny thing also, i brought my si in this friday to get an oil change and the tranny seemed super smooth after leaving... Hope these guys didn't see the tsb and lubed me up so they don't have to see me for a while... in any event, i plan to bring in my slip where they found the issue and put in different tranny oil ... Thoughts anyone? I mean, the logic is .. this is a hardware issue that is recognized.... Oil masked it and didn't fix it and for those who got the oil replacement... They should get the actual fix... Hmmm, also my si is making a noise ... increased throttle anywhere from third gear on starting at 3krpm .. it is an increasingly louder whine ... Sounds like : YouTube - 3rd gear pull with PAR Straight gears in YouTube - Straight Cut Gears but not sooo loud... But yeah, when he backs off the gas and that jerky whine... I hear all of that? is it also a part of this bad synchro... Never heard this sound before in any manual tranny and it sounds like something is off in the tranny to me? Bad synchro? Last edited by unicii; 04-13-2008 at 02:18 PM.

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K20Redline Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tracy, CA Age: 18 Posts: 805 Masi iTrader: 0 / 0%	Interesting I had my service manager drive my car and it happened to him into third gear and said he would talk to his rep and let me know haven't herd from him since but ill surprise him instead of the other way! And on top of that I will ask for a new clutch =) cause it caused a lot of damage the 3rd gear grind. Last edited by K20Redline; 04-13-2008 at 03:21 PM.

04-13-2008, 04:13 PM	#139 (permalink)
*mad monkey* I do look like a monkey Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: bay area Posts: 949 Jeremy iTrader: 1 / 100%	WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.... too bad it's my second gear that shits out and not third... but anyways... WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO@!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ My Mods: Home made CAI, BCRH, QTP Electric Cutout, P2R TB spacer and thermal gaskets, Hondata IMG

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04-13-2008, 02:20 PM	#123 (permalink)
shdw06 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1 iTrader: 0 / 0%	im going to my dealer tomorrow!!!!!! to see if this is legit

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lionelp Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 653 Lionel Pereira iTrader: 0 / 0%	Got mine done back in February.

04-13-2008, 02:28 PM	#126 (permalink)
lionelp Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 653 Lionel Pereira iTrader: 0 / 0%	No problem Yodums! Anything to help!

04-13-2008, 03:19 PM	#128 (permalink)
lionelp Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 653 Lionel Pereira iTrader: 0 / 0%	Nice!!!!!

04-13-2008, 03:20 PM	#129 (permalink)
KSE Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: socal 818 Age: 21 Posts: 623 Albert iTrader: 6 / 100%	2006–07 Civic Si 2-Door: ALL ??? I haven't had any problem w/ mine

04-13-2008, 03:29 PM	#132 (permalink)
KSE Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: socal 818 Age: 21 Posts: 623 Albert iTrader: 6 / 100%	yeah ima call

04-13-2008, 03:30 PM	#133 (permalink)
lionelp Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 653 Lionel Pereira iTrader: 0 / 0%	Better to be safe than sorry... thats always my motto...

04-13-2008, 03:32 PM	#135 (permalink)
lionelp Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 653 Lionel Pereira iTrader: 0 / 0%	true... then again... anything can happen

04-13-2008, 03:34 PM	#136 (permalink)
KSE Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: socal 818 Age: 21 Posts: 623 Albert iTrader: 6 / 100%	haha yeah im not gonna go unless something happens

04-13-2008, 03:37 PM	#137 (permalink)
lionelp Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 653 Lionel Pereira iTrader: 0 / 0%	I guess you're one of the lucky ones!

04-13-2008, 04:10 PM	#138 (permalink)
KSE Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: socal 818 Age: 21 Posts: 623 Albert iTrader: 6 / 100%	I hope so

04-13-2008, 04:18 PM	#140 (permalink)
BlackHammer Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Long Island Posts: 14 iTrader: 0 / 0%	And some of our own members here thought it could be our "technique" and not a problem with the car. Maybe we all don't suck at driving stick after all..