Honda TSB 08-020 April 12, 2008 (3RD GEAR) - Page 60

JenSi · 05-13-2008, 06:05 AM

Does anyone have trouble getting it into Reverse??? Mine just doesn't want to go into reverse sometimes. I don't know if it's related to my gear problem or what. I know how to drive my car... so I know it's not driver stupidity.
Then the other day I'm driving gettin ready to shift into 4th, and it actually popped outta 3rd for the first time... Took me 3 tries to get it into 4th while goin down the road... I had the clutch all the way to the floor, just wouldn't get in there. I'm taking it back in, made a little headway with the manager. So hopefully it helps w/them looking more seriously at my car.

FastTimesAtFGHigh · 05-13-2008, 08:14 AM

Sometimes it doesn't want to get into the Reverse gate. For that, I followed someone's advice of popping it into First and then trying the Reverse gear afterwards. Works everytime.

djdisturbed · 05-13-2008, 10:38 AM

sometimes mine wont go all the way into reverse from a cold start, but what i do in that case is let my foot off the brake and let it roll slightly forward (not even an inch) and then it will go right in.

RWatters · 05-13-2008, 10:40 AM

Reverse is not a synchronized gear so it won't always pop right in. Let out the clutch and then push it again will fix it most of the time. That or put it in first and then reverse. That or let the car move a little with the clutch pedal depressed.

joshmon71 · 05-13-2008, 12:41 PM

In a full blown argument with Hyannis Honda about this TSB. They say must duplicate the issue-I quoted the TSB, said happens when colder, hard to duplicate. Dropping car off next Monday.

issue is I got a short shift kit :), me thinks should take it out or what??

-josh on cape cod

update later today-Hyannis Honda is replacing the 3rd gear and waiting on parts, So the car is at the dealer getting HFP suspension bought online :), 3rd gear replaced, alignment on Honda. Waay agitated over the 2 conversations with Service, but 3rd time we chatted they said let us do the TSB work. I got a bit hot, memntioned warranty, lemon law, further discussion to occur onsite in the Sales area :), and how can I duplicate it when the TSB says intermittent!!

Hope this solves issue.

Short shift still in though....

***t85konrad*** · 05-13-2008, 12:46 PM

ya i say take it out, they will just say that thats the reson for ur issues, and here is my update, i have gone to my dealer about a month ago, well, the one bolt will not be in until the 16th and the O-rings wont be in untill the 22nd, so i am still waiting.

***06civicsiguy*** · 05-13-2008, 01:14 PM

iv had the 3rd gear fix done for awile. i had it done 4 days after it came out. and my trans was good right away after that. bt after about a week it startd getting notchy in all gears.and its getting worse. and now its getting hard to go into reverse.. im so sick of this crap.

***SiAzul*** · 05-13-2008, 01:56 PM

I took mine to get checked out and left the short shifter in there and they didnt even notice, Im just waiting on parts

***t85konrad*** · 05-13-2008, 02:02 PM

well mow im starting to second guess me goin to get it fixed

K20Redline · 05-13-2008, 02:11 PM

Shoot looks like I need to rebuild the tranny completly if wrost comes to worst!

***t85konrad*** · 05-13-2008, 02:14 PM

f that, if it get any worse ill just take it in again and agin till its fixed, and if they refuse to fix it then well bye bye SI hello GTI.

K20Redline · 05-13-2008, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t85konrad

f that, if it get any worse ill just take it in again and agin till its fixed, and if they refuse to fix it then well bye bye SI hello GTI.

Goo for it I put to much sweat blood and money in my car to just let it go and give up on her!

***t85konrad*** · 05-13-2008, 08:27 PM

^ this is true, i mena this is the love of my life, i cant let this car go, if anything ill just rebuild my gear box and mod it so it hauls a$$

whitecivicsi · 05-14-2008, 01:19 PM

MAN I took my car in today and got the can't duplicate crap from them...

he also said just bring it back if it happens again. I told him man it did it last night and this moring when I drove it in it felt like butter. wtf am I suppose to do guys?

How the F can we make it duplicate...when it does it when it wants to? I'd have to admit mine is just minor but I still want, what needs to be fix fixed.

btw I took my short shifter off...(and yes the blue cap was a PITA!)

should i just keep bringing it in to them? or leave it over night? help guys.

PhoR11 · 05-14-2008, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitecivicsi

MAN I took my car in today and got the can't duplicate crap from them...

I'd have to admit mine is just minor but I still want, what needs to be fix fixed.

should i just keep bringing it in to them? or leave it over night? help guys.

What year model is it?
If it's just minor and you've got plenty of time/miles left on the warranty, you should do what I'm going to do and just take it back in closer to the end of warranty if it doesn't get any worse.

Otherwise if it gets worse it will be much easier for them to replicate.

whitecivicsi · 05-14-2008, 02:06 PM

its an 06 bud.

the guy at dealer even said don't worry about it man u have ur warrantee till 100k so just bring it back. if it does it again. The car is at 54k I just don't have time to keep bringing it back u know.

what if i move from here? will any honda dealer treat me the same?

or has anyone thought about the "your car is old now" thats why its doing this?

damn i know theres a problem...and they do too, or else why would honda come out with a tsb with a new part #? i just don't get it.

excuses man...replicate it...wtf

jdavis383 · 05-14-2008, 03:34 PM

I have not had a problem with third yet, except for hard shifting into third. I have noticed a grinding under hard acceleration going into second.

JenSi · 05-14-2008, 07:37 PM

Had a major crisis with the car today... it was smoking crack! I seriously didn't know what the heck to do! Scared me alot.. thought my tranny was gonna fall right out on the road & I was out in the middle of no where. Between popping out of gear & it not going into gear while driving, the grinding & the horrible...very horrible notchiness in which I could feel it hit every tooth of the gears thru the shifter & hear it clicking into gear... I didn't know if I should call a tow truck or just keep driving. Freaked me out. I called the dealer after I calmed myself down...didn't even mess w/gettin service on the phone. I got the manager of the dealership that I got to know over the last few weeks due to him dealing w/the company I work for on the phone. I was like dude...my car is insane! He's like bring it in now.. I couldn't, no time. Last time they wouldn't even give me a loaner. He's like bring it in 1st thing tomorrow, I'll let the service mngr. know exactly who u are and that ur coming & I'll give ya a car to drive. The sooner ya get it in here the better to duplicate it. There is that duplicate word again.. UGGG! I hope my car doesn't decide to be a jerk tomorrow & pretend like it's just peachy! And I hope by going thru the manager & him knowing me that I have a better shot at gettin somethin done here...

I really need a guy friend to go in with me here, cuz I know NOTHING about a transmission!

whitecivicsi · 05-14-2008, 07:42 PM

GL JEN hope they don't push you around....

ocspray · 05-14-2008, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JenSi

I really need a guy friend to go in with me here, cuz I know NOTHING about a transmission!

No, you don't. If it's not shifting smoothly, that's all you need to know. If you internet connection goes down, do you need to know how to fix it to get service? Nope; you call in the problem and hope for the best.

It's their job to figure it out, and luckily, Honda has provided them with a handy TSB. Take one along for support if you want, but be respectful, firm, and consistent with the service department and you won't need a guy around.

05-13-2008, 12:41 PM	#1185 (permalink)
joshmon71 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 41 iTrader: 0 / 0%	In a full blown argument with Hyannis Honda about this TSB. They say must duplicate the issue-I quoted the TSB, said happens when colder, hard to duplicate. Dropping car off next Monday. issue is I got a short shift kit :), me thinks should take it out or what?? -josh on cape cod update later today-Hyannis Honda is replacing the 3rd gear and waiting on parts, So the car is at the dealer getting HFP suspension bought online :), 3rd gear replaced, alignment on Honda. Waay agitated over the 2 conversations with Service, but 3rd time we chatted they said let us do the TSB work. I got a bit hot, memntioned warranty, lemon law, further discussion to occur onsite in the Sales area :), and how can I duplicate it when the TSB says intermittent!! Hope this solves issue. Short shift still in though.... Last edited by joshmon71; 05-13-2008 at 03:50 PM.

05-13-2008, 12:46 PM	#1186 (permalink)
*t85konrad* PL_FA5_KT Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: chicago south side Age: 22 Posts: 1,689 konrad T iTrader: 0 / 0%	ya i say take it out, they will just say that thats the reson for ur issues, and here is my update, i have gone to my dealer about a month ago, well, the one bolt will not be in until the 16th and the O-rings wont be in untill the 22nd, so i am still waiting. __________________ *ALL MY POLISH PEOPLE CHECK IN HERE* http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/europ...heck-here.html *official 8thcivic chicago crew* http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/mid-w...cago-crew.html I THINK IM DEAD http://youtube.com/watch?v=hnZb5wi_jsU&feature=related

05-13-2008, 01:56 PM	#1188 (permalink)
*SiAzul* VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Durham, NC Posts: 1,371 Mario iTrader: 1 / 100%	I took mine to get checked out and left the short shifter in there and they didnt even notice, Im just waiting on parts __________________

05-13-2008, 02:02 PM	#1189 (permalink)
*t85konrad* PL_FA5_KT Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: chicago south side Age: 22 Posts: 1,689 konrad T iTrader: 0 / 0%	well mow im starting to second guess me goin to get it fixed __________________ *ALL MY POLISH PEOPLE CHECK IN HERE* http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/europ...heck-here.html *official 8thcivic chicago crew* http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/mid-w...cago-crew.html I THINK IM DEAD http://youtube.com/watch?v=hnZb5wi_jsU&feature=related

05-13-2008, 02:14 PM	#1191 (permalink)
*t85konrad* PL_FA5_KT Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: chicago south side Age: 22 Posts: 1,689 konrad T iTrader: 0 / 0%	f that, if it get any worse ill just take it in again and agin till its fixed, and if they refuse to fix it then well bye bye SI hello GTI. __________________ *ALL MY POLISH PEOPLE CHECK IN HERE* http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/europ...heck-here.html *official 8thcivic chicago crew* http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/mid-w...cago-crew.html I THINK IM DEAD http://youtube.com/watch?v=hnZb5wi_jsU&feature=related

05-13-2008, 06:05 AM	#1181 (permalink)
JenSi Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Age: 24 Posts: 211 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Does anyone have trouble getting it into Reverse??? Mine just doesn't want to go into reverse sometimes. I don't know if it's related to my gear problem or what. I know how to drive my car... so I know it's not driver stupidity. Then the other day I'm driving gettin ready to shift into 4th, and it actually popped outta 3rd for the first time... Took me 3 tries to get it into 4th while goin down the road... I had the clutch all the way to the floor, just wouldn't get in there. I'm taking it back in, made a little headway with the manager. So hopefully it helps w/them looking more seriously at my car.

05-13-2008, 08:14 AM	#1182 (permalink)
FastTimesAtFGHigh Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,189 http://jdmfg2.wordpress.com iTrader: 4 / 100%	Sometimes it doesn't want to get into the Reverse gate. For that, I followed someone's advice of popping it into First and then trying the Reverse gear afterwards. Works everytime.

05-13-2008, 10:38 AM	#1183 (permalink)
djdisturbed Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Burlington, NC Age: 29 Posts: 321 Chris "DJ Disturbed" iTrader: 0 / 0%	sometimes mine wont go all the way into reverse from a cold start, but what i do in that case is let my foot off the brake and let it roll slightly forward (not even an inch) and then it will go right in.

05-13-2008, 10:40 AM	#1184 (permalink)
RWatters Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Olathe, KS Age: 23 Posts: 1,647 iTrader: 10 / 100%	Reverse is not a synchronized gear so it won't always pop right in. Let out the clutch and then push it again will fix it most of the time. That or put it in first and then reverse. That or let the car move a little with the clutch pedal depressed.

05-13-2008, 01:14 PM	#1187 (permalink)
*06civicsiguy* VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Dakota Posts: 211 matt iTrader: 0 / 0%	iv had the 3rd gear fix done for awile. i had it done 4 days after it came out. and my trans was good right away after that. bt after about a week it startd getting notchy in all gears.and its getting worse. and now its getting hard to go into reverse.. im so sick of this crap.

05-13-2008, 02:11 PM	#1190 (permalink)
K20Redline Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tracy, CA Age: 18 Posts: 892 Masi iTrader: 0 / 0%	Shoot looks like I need to rebuild the tranny completly if wrost comes to worst!

05-13-2008, 08:27 PM	#1193 (permalink)
*t85konrad* PL_FA5_KT Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: chicago south side Age: 22 Posts: 1,689 konrad T iTrader: 0 / 0%	^ this is true, i mena this is the love of my life, i cant let this car go, if anything ill just rebuild my gear box and mod it so it hauls a$$ __________________ *ALL MY POLISH PEOPLE CHECK IN HERE* http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/europ...heck-here.html *official 8thcivic chicago crew* http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/mid-w...cago-crew.html I THINK IM DEAD http://youtube.com/watch?v=hnZb5wi_jsU&feature=related

05-14-2008, 01:19 PM	#1194 (permalink)
whitecivicsi Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,434 iTrader: 13 / 100%	MAN I took my car in today and got the can't duplicate crap from them... he also said just bring it back if it happens again. I told him man it did it last night and this moring when I drove it in it felt like butter. wtf am I suppose to do guys? How the F can we make it duplicate...when it does it when it wants to? I'd have to admit mine is just minor but I still want, what needs to be fix fixed. btw I took my short shifter off...(and yes the blue cap was a PITA!) should i just keep bringing it in to them? or leave it over night? help guys.

05-14-2008, 02:06 PM	#1196 (permalink)
whitecivicsi Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,434 iTrader: 13 / 100%	its an 06 bud. the guy at dealer even said don't worry about it man u have ur warrantee till 100k so just bring it back. if it does it again. The car is at 54k I just don't have time to keep bringing it back u know. what if i move from here? will any honda dealer treat me the same? or has anyone thought about the "your car is old now" thats why its doing this? damn i know theres a problem...and they do too, or else why would honda come out with a tsb with a new part #? i just don't get it. excuses man...replicate it...wtf Last edited by whitecivicsi; 05-14-2008 at 02:12 PM.

05-14-2008, 03:34 PM	#1197 (permalink)
jdavis383 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I have not had a problem with third yet, except for hard shifting into third. I have noticed a grinding under hard acceleration going into second.

05-14-2008, 07:37 PM	#1198 (permalink)
JenSi Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Age: 24 Posts: 211 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Had a major crisis with the car today... it was smoking crack! I seriously didn't know what the heck to do! Scared me alot.. thought my tranny was gonna fall right out on the road & I was out in the middle of no where. Between popping out of gear & it not going into gear while driving, the grinding & the horrible...very horrible notchiness in which I could feel it hit every tooth of the gears thru the shifter & hear it clicking into gear... I didn't know if I should call a tow truck or just keep driving. Freaked me out. I called the dealer after I calmed myself down...didn't even mess w/gettin service on the phone. I got the manager of the dealership that I got to know over the last few weeks due to him dealing w/the company I work for on the phone. I was like dude...my car is insane! He's like bring it in now.. I couldn't, no time. Last time they wouldn't even give me a loaner. He's like bring it in 1st thing tomorrow, I'll let the service mngr. know exactly who u are and that ur coming & I'll give ya a car to drive. The sooner ya get it in here the better to duplicate it. There is that duplicate word again.. UGGG! I hope my car doesn't decide to be a jerk tomorrow & pretend like it's just peachy! And I hope by going thru the manager & him knowing me that I have a better shot at gettin somethin done here... I really need a guy friend to go in with me here, cuz I know NOTHING about a transmission!

05-14-2008, 07:42 PM	#1199 (permalink)
whitecivicsi Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,434 iTrader: 13 / 100%	GL JEN hope they don't push you around....