Honda TSB 08-020 April 12, 2008 (3RD GEAR) - Page 6

***Special Ringpop*** · 04-13-2008, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by webby

how long till the rsx owners are irate?

While I have sympathy for them, I'm not sure (and correct me if I'm wrong) that they worked as hard to get this as we have done. A lot of us have bent over backwards, breaking our backs, and spending FAR too much time battling Honda of America and our dealerships about this issue.

Hopefully this fixes it.

***ryryninja*** · 04-13-2008, 07:52 AM

I'll try my luck this week guys. Though I'm not under the manufacturers warranty anymore just with an extended warranty 7 year / 100k miles. So hopefully they will still help me out

I never really had much problems with my 3rd gear but hell.. why not get it fixed right? but then what worries me is, "Why fix it if it isn't broken?"

mrbill · 04-13-2008, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by webby

how long till the rsx owners are irate?

Isn't this 8th Civic?
Anyhow, TSX missing surprises me.

-mr. bill

***06blaksi*** · 04-13-2008, 08:49 AM

what sucks is I have a 2nd gear issue, not 3rd....grinds when shifting at high rpm's

Read the TSB to this point...its basically a TSB to appease a few people...all they have to do is say its normal

DIAGNOSIS
Drive a known-good vehicle under the same conditions
as the customer’s complaint, and compare the shift
quality. If the customer’s vehicle has noticeable shift
quality problems, replace the 3rd gear set.
NOTE: It is not uncommon for there to be some
resistance or notchiness when shifting into third gear.

duerrs · 04-13-2008, 09:52 AM

my vin is not in the range, i guess thats why i have not had a problem with my trans. Good luck to everyone affected

duerrs · 04-13-2008, 09:53 AM

I never really had much problems with my 3rd gear but hell.. why not get it fixed right? but then what worries me is, "Why fix it if it isn't broken?"[/quote]

don't screw with it man

kurdtkobain87 · 04-13-2008, 10:25 AM

Lets say you are one of the people who got the dealer to recognize the problem and they did the transmission fluid flush. Would you think it would be possible to get them to do this TSB if you showed them the old receipt where they actually recognized the problem?

Yankees2519 · 04-13-2008, 10:36 AM

My third gear only grinds a couple times a week- usually cold, so i really doubt they could confirm it during a road test and will probably say its normal. I fall in the vin range though. Im not so sure i want the transmission ripped out of my brand new car though either... whats the warranty on this?

civic si hb · 04-13-2008, 10:41 AM

So my 08 is out of range by 2000 cars so does that mean that Honda already fixed mine or am I getting the screw on this?

redwingbum19 · 04-13-2008, 10:41 AM

yeah i build the 08 accords and production sucked and the lot was backed up 3 months of cars that had this problim and with the economy the way it is honda is hurting right now.

catchx34 · 04-13-2008, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mitsukaiSI

are you ******* serious?????? this doesnt apply to coupes??? even though we have the same damn tranny???? that makes no sense what so ever

sorry i misread it. Yours is covered :-D

**Yodums** · 04-13-2008, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by malditoron

Yeah, 5 pages in and it's still not stickied, mods where are you?

The popularity of this issue will keep this thread at the top of the normal threads and draw more awareness than stickying it would. Hope that makes sense.

mrbill - Thanks for also providing a PDF! Helps a lot.

On another note, any Canadians have the Canadian version? I'm almost certain the stealerships will tell you that TSB article will do squat in America Jr. Land.

***Special Ringpop*** · 04-13-2008, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by redwingbum19

yeah i build the 08 accords and production sucked and the lot was backed up 3 months of cars that had this problim and with the economy the way it is honda is hurting right now.

Good. They deserve it after almost 6 years of putting out this transmission without listening to customer pleas.

They are lucky someone didn't die from it.

tomato989 · 04-13-2008, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 06blaksi

what sucks is I have a 2nd gear issue, not 3rd....grinds when shifting at high rpm's
[/b].

yeah, i also have the 2nd gear issue and no 3rd gear issue. mine grinds at any RPM over 3.5k intermittently. never know when it's going to do it. I was hoping Honda would provide fixes for both gear.

melomood · 04-13-2008, 12:01 PM

ya my 2nd is toast, my 3rd is fine ever since i changed it to amisol, like a whole new tranny would be nice, maybe with the correct amount of transmission fluid too.

seguitarist · 04-13-2008, 12:38 PM

My wife has a 03 RSX type S with 60k on it. While my third gear acts up sometimes, hers actually does the "pop out of gear" things. I think her RSX is in need of a fix more than my Si. I have delt with my Si enough now that I can tell when third isn't going to go into gear correctly and I can compensate for it.

***Firestrife*** · 04-13-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Special Ringpop

Good. They deserve it after almost 6 years of putting out this transmission without listening to customer pleas.

They are lucky someone didn't die from it.

While I wholeheartedly support the 3rd gear issue problem solving I still do not see where someone could have died from it.

Gr3y Goose · 04-13-2008, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yodums

The popularity of this issue will keep this thread at the top of the normal threads and draw more awareness than stickying it would. Hope that makes sense.

mrbill - Thanks for also providing a PDF! Helps a lot.

On another note, any Canadians have the Canadian version? I'm almost certain the stealerships will tell you that TSB article will do squat in America Jr. Land.

i still place a vote for a sticky or a bulletin on the home page...this is a pretty important matter to us Si owners.

mitsukaiSI · 04-13-2008, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tomato989

yeah, i also have the 2nd gear issue and no 3rd gear issue. mine grinds at any RPM over 3.5k intermittently. never know when it's going to do it. I was hoping Honda would provide fixes for both gear.

i have on occasion had a third gear issue but my second sucks ass

malditoron · 04-13-2008, 01:49 PM

yea i vote to sticky it too...this should be right up there w/ the 3rd gear newscast.

Do you guys think HONDA got it right this time though?

AND It kinda scares me that they gotta rip the whole transmission apart and try to piece it back together....especially if its some newbie mechanic.

I'm just scared imma walk out w/ more problems then i walked in with.

04-13-2008, 01:49 PM	#120 (permalink)
malditoron Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: bronx Posts: 82 iTrader: 0 / 0%	yea i vote to sticky it too...this should be right up there w/ the 3rd gear newscast. Do you guys think HONDA got it right this time though? AND It kinda scares me that they gotta rip the whole transmission apart and try to piece it back together....especially if its some newbie mechanic. I'm just scared imma walk out w/ more problems then i walked in with. Last edited by malditoron; 04-13-2008 at 01:51 PM. Reason: late reply

04-13-2008, 09:52 AM	#105 (permalink)
duerrs Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 49 iTrader: 0 / 0%	my vin is not in the range, i guess thats why i have not had a problem with my trans. Good luck to everyone affected

04-13-2008, 09:53 AM	#106 (permalink)
duerrs Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 49 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I never really had much problems with my 3rd gear but hell.. why not get it fixed right? but then what worries me is, "Why fix it if it isn't broken?"[/quote] don't screw with it man

04-13-2008, 10:25 AM	#107 (permalink)
kurdtkobain87 Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 96 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Lets say you are one of the people who got the dealer to recognize the problem and they did the transmission fluid flush. Would you think it would be possible to get them to do this TSB if you showed them the old receipt where they actually recognized the problem?

04-13-2008, 10:36 AM	#108 (permalink)
Yankees2519 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 102 iTrader: 0 / 0%	My third gear only grinds a couple times a week- usually cold, so i really doubt they could confirm it during a road test and will probably say its normal. I fall in the vin range though. Im not so sure i want the transmission ripped out of my brand new car though either... whats the warranty on this?

04-13-2008, 10:41 AM	#109 (permalink)
civic si hb Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NH Age: 32 Posts: 910 iTrader: 3 / 100%	So my 08 is out of range by 2000 cars so does that mean that Honda already fixed mine or am I getting the screw on this?

04-13-2008, 10:41 AM	#110 (permalink)
redwingbum19 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Marysville OH Age: 21 Posts: 117 Zach iTrader: 2 / 100%	yeah i build the 08 accords and production sucked and the lot was backed up 3 months of cars that had this problim and with the economy the way it is honda is hurting right now.

04-13-2008, 12:01 PM	#115 (permalink)
melomood Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: red bank, nj Posts: 523 Melo iTrader: 0 / 0%	ya my 2nd is toast, my 3rd is fine ever since i changed it to amisol, like a whole new tranny would be nice, maybe with the correct amount of transmission fluid too.

04-13-2008, 12:38 PM	#116 (permalink)
seguitarist Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 42 iTrader: 1 / 100%	My wife has a 03 RSX type S with 60k on it. While my third gear acts up sometimes, hers actually does the "pop out of gear" things. I think her RSX is in need of a fix more than my Si. I have delt with my Si enough now that I can tell when third isn't going to go into gear correctly and I can compensate for it.