Honda TSB 08-020 April 12, 2008 (3RD GEAR) - Page 58

ocspray · 05-08-2008, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MIKKOO

wow guys back order my as* they don't even fix enough transmissions to have that shi** on back order

Um...okay.

Tens of thousands of six speed manual transmissions are possibly affected, and a single TSB was issued that simultaneously covered all of them. Parts shortages may be inconvenient, but they're hardly unexpected. "[T]hey don't even fix enough transmissions to have [those parts] on back order," doesn't seem to apply, or even make sense.

Work the system and ignore the distractions. If you choose to wait for the service, at least have the problem documented by Honda and have the work done before your warranty coverage ends.

Adlh29 · 05-08-2008, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dt07Si

^^^Thats what I'm wondering...

Bringing my car in on Friday.

I removed my TWM SS today, and I plan on removing the TWM cable bushings tomorrow. Do you guys think I should remove the TWM base bushings also?

I would remove everything else except the base bushings. They are not going to see the base bushings.

ex5coupe · 05-08-2008, 01:15 PM

my cars vin is outside the range by a 1000 on the upper side. It was built in late January. I still have an occasionaly third gear scratch if you will but its not all the time, and its mostly when cold. FYI. So apparently I have the new gearset.

hifichip-si76 · 05-08-2008, 01:55 PM

I took my Si to Hillside HOnda here in New York this week. They refused to do the work because they said they couldn't duplicate the problem.

I've documented my complaints with previous visits and letters/calls to Honda Customer Service.

I faxed another letter right away to HCS complaining about it and asking them to arrange the fix for me at a dealership that has done it succesfully.

Part of me is not sure I should even bother. What if they make it worse? It seems like a risk. But I'll be paying the car off for years, so I should get it right.

It should be a recall, not a TSB.

Nissan found a slight potential problem with the clutch slave cylinder in my 350Z and issues a recall. I had it done and it works better. I didn't even have a problem before, but it's easier to launch now. Honda should be proactive like Nissan.

WHat's wrong with Honda these days?

Has anyone had the TSB done in New York? I'd appreciate it if anyone who has could let me know how it went. Thanks and good luck.

User_name: · 05-08-2008, 02:02 PM

Lol proactive like nissan... Thats funny, It took a class-action lawsuit to get them to realize that the alignment was all out of wack on 03'-04 Z's and burning the front tires up in 5k miles... And they give you a 125$ tire coupon if you drop the suit with them, or you can hire your own lawyer and fly to cali and go to court... Which they should fix it like the 05+ Z's...

Adlh29 · 05-08-2008, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by hifichip-si76

I took my Si to Hillside HOnda here in New York this week. They refused to do the work because they said they couldn't duplicate the problem.

I've documented my complaints with previous visits and letters/calls to Honda Customer Service.

I faxed another letter right away to HCS complaining about it and asking them to arrange the fix for me at a dealership that has done it succesfully.

Part of me is not sure I should even bother. What if they make it worse? It seems like a risk. But I'll be paying the car off for years, so I should get it right.

It should be a recall, not a TSB.

Nissan found a slight potential problem with the clutch slave cylinder in my 350Z and issues a recall. I had it done and it works better. I didn't even have a problem before, but it's easier to launch now. Honda should be proactive like Nissan.

WHat's wrong with Honda these days?

Has anyone had the TSB done in New York? I'd appreciate it if anyone who has could let me know how it went. Thanks and good luck.

Several memebers have. Check this link out:

List of Dealerships fixing 3rd gear problems

***t85konrad*** · 05-08-2008, 03:04 PM

its been about 2 weeks and im still waiting for my parts to come in, but lately my 3rd grear hasnt been acting up as much its as if my car know taht its getting fixed and its trying to fix its self, its a little scary man, what should i do lol

hifichip-si76 · 05-08-2008, 03:24 PM

Ah, I see. Thanks. I didn't know about that thread. Looks like Huntington Honda is a friendly place for us.

trystar · 05-08-2008, 05:54 PM

All of my parts are in... except for 3 damn bolts... WHAT THE HELL?! give me the damn thread size and what kind of bolts they are and i'll go find you some, JUST FIX MY CAR ALREADYYY!

djdisturbed · 05-08-2008, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by trystar

All of my parts are in... except for 3 damn bolts... WHAT THE HELL?! give me the damn thread size and what kind of bolts they are and i'll go find you some, JUST FIX MY CAR ALREADYYY!

Well they are extra special bolt made of an exotic metal from japan, they are forged by the samuri sword makers.

ocspray · 05-08-2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by trystar

All of my parts are in... except for 3 damn bolts... WHAT THE HELL?! give me the damn thread size and what kind of bolts they are and i'll go find you some, JUST FIX MY CAR ALREADYYY!

One time use bolts are fairly common. I doubt you'd be happy with an Ace Hardware substitution.

b0yd07 · 05-08-2008, 07:26 PM

I took my car in to Sterling McCall Honda today in Texas. They were planning on test driving it but decided not to and just went ahead and ordered the parts.

I was actually kind of anxious for them to drive it. My car has that horrid notch effect 99% of the time so I wanted to see their reactions to it. I think mine shifts smoothly into third as often as everyone else's on here has that occasional notch effect. Not often.
Anyone know the ETA for the parts? I hope it doesn't take over four weeks to get em.

Also, anyone gotten the fix already and put the short shifter back in? I'm still debating leaving it out for good or putting it back in there. I don't want these problems coming back, ever, and if the SS induces the problem it stays out.

Armani G · 05-09-2008, 02:02 AM

Hey guys new to this site but have been browsing for about a few months... And now that I see I can take my Honda in for this fix, I was just wondering anyone live in Toronto Canada? If so where have you taken your car for the 3rd gear fix? Also my VIN is (2HGFG2152GH100358) I should be good to go right? It’s a 06 Honda Si

I spoke to my dealership about this problem but they had no idea what I was talking about. I spoke to them about it when I was getting a new Engine in my car had to fill my oil every 3000K, so they dropped a new engine in the car about 3 months ago. The 3rd gear problem has been a bit better and happens a lot less now but still at times happens and is a bit rough going into 3rd gear. But dropping in a new engine they wouldn’t replace the gear synchronizer or the shift sleeve would they? Anymore info would be great guys. :) thanks

**Tim** · 05-09-2008, 02:21 AM

New engine? Now that qualifies for a post here: Post your SERIOUS Mechanical or Technical Problem

***msjwild3*** · 05-09-2008, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Armani G

Hey guys new to this site but have been browsing for about a few months... And now that I see I can take my Honda in for this fix, I was just wondering anyone live in Toronto Canada? If so where have you taken your car for the 3rd gear fix? Also my VIN is (2HGFG2152GH100358) I should be good to go right? It’s a 06 Honda Si

I spoke to my dealership about this problem but they had no idea what I was talking about. I spoke to them about it when I was getting a new Engine in my car had to fill my oil every 3000K, so they dropped a new engine in the car about 3 months ago. The 3rd gear problem has been a bit better and happens a lot less now but still at times happens and is a bit rough going into 3rd gear. But dropping in a new engine they wouldn’t replace the gear synchronizer or the shift sleeve would they? Anymore info would be great guys. :) thanks

Unless you bought yours in the USA i dont think you qualify for this. But i could be wrong.

lyttleviet · 05-09-2008, 03:56 AM

i dont meet the Vin for my FA5. lets hope mine really doesn't have an issue.

dt07Si · 05-09-2008, 07:21 AM

I dropped my car off last night to have it checked out, we'll see what they say...

On a side note, there was a Habi FG parked in the back of their lot with the hood open, and clamping device (from what I could tell, but it was mostly cover with a drop cloth) and it had no air box. Weird...

DOHCKLR · 05-09-2008, 09:29 AM

Took them four days to complete the work, and two weeks to get the parts in, but hey mine is FINALLY fixed and from now on the service manager will be the one working with me, if i ever have any other probelms, and i got her personal line phone number.

w00t =)

And third gear seems to be working like all the others finally!!!

Armani G · 05-09-2008, 09:54 AM

mine was not bought in the USA.... anywhere I can find out if this service call is for the US only?

Adlh29 · 05-09-2008, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Armani G

mine was not bought in the USA.... anywhere I can find out if this service call is for the US only?

This particular bulletin is for the US models only. I have heard some of the Canucks on the site talking about a service bulletin being released for Canada in the next month.

05-08-2008, 01:55 PM	#1144 (permalink)
hifichip-si76 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 49 iTrader: 0 / 0%	TSB in NY I took my Si to Hillside HOnda here in New York this week. They refused to do the work because they said they couldn't duplicate the problem. I've documented my complaints with previous visits and letters/calls to Honda Customer Service. I faxed another letter right away to HCS complaining about it and asking them to arrange the fix for me at a dealership that has done it succesfully. Part of me is not sure I should even bother. What if they make it worse? It seems like a risk. But I'll be paying the car off for years, so I should get it right. It should be a recall, not a TSB. Nissan found a slight potential problem with the clutch slave cylinder in my 350Z and issues a recall. I had it done and it works better. I didn't even have a problem before, but it's easier to launch now. Honda should be proactive like Nissan. WHat's wrong with Honda these days? Has anyone had the TSB done in New York? I'd appreciate it if anyone who has could let me know how it went. Thanks and good luck.

05-08-2008, 03:04 PM	#1147 (permalink)
*t85konrad* PL_FA5_KT Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: chicago south side Age: 22 Posts: 1,692 konrad T iTrader: 0 / 0%	its been about 2 weeks and im still waiting for my parts to come in, but lately my 3rd grear hasnt been acting up as much its as if my car know taht its getting fixed and its trying to fix its self, its a little scary man, what should i do lol __________________ *ALL MY POLISH PEOPLE CHECK IN HERE* http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/europ...heck-here.html *official 8thcivic chicago crew* http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/mid-w...cago-crew.html I THINK IM DEAD http://youtube.com/watch?v=hnZb5wi_jsU&feature=related

05-08-2008, 01:15 PM	#1143 (permalink)
ex5coupe Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 83 iTrader: 0 / 0%	my cars vin is outside the range by a 1000 on the upper side. It was built in late January. I still have an occasionaly third gear scratch if you will but its not all the time, and its mostly when cold. FYI. So apparently I have the new gearset.

05-08-2008, 02:02 PM	#1145 (permalink)
User_name: Senior Member Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Like butter Posts: 485 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Lol proactive like nissan... Thats funny, It took a class-action lawsuit to get them to realize that the alignment was all out of wack on 03'-04 Z's and burning the front tires up in 5k miles... And they give you a 125$ tire coupon if you drop the suit with them, or you can hire your own lawyer and fly to cali and go to court... Which they should fix it like the 05+ Z's...

05-08-2008, 03:24 PM	#1148 (permalink)
hifichip-si76 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 49 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Ah, I see. Thanks. I didn't know about that thread. Looks like Huntington Honda is a friendly place for us.

05-08-2008, 05:54 PM	#1149 (permalink)
trystar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cypress - Houston TX Posts: 918 Tam Ngo iTrader: 5 / 100%	All of my parts are in... except for 3 damn bolts... WHAT THE HELL?! give me the damn thread size and what kind of bolts they are and i'll go find you some, JUST FIX MY CAR ALREADYYY!

05-08-2008, 07:26 PM	#1152 (permalink)
b0yd07 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Kingwood, TX Age: 19 Posts: 253 Michael iTrader: 0 / 0%	I took my car in to Sterling McCall Honda today in Texas. They were planning on test driving it but decided not to and just went ahead and ordered the parts. I was actually kind of anxious for them to drive it. My car has that horrid notch effect 99% of the time so I wanted to see their reactions to it. I think mine shifts smoothly into third as often as everyone else's on here has that occasional notch effect. Not often. Anyone know the ETA for the parts? I hope it doesn't take over four weeks to get em. Also, anyone gotten the fix already and put the short shifter back in? I'm still debating leaving it out for good or putting it back in there. I don't want these problems coming back, ever, and if the SS induces the problem it stays out.

05-09-2008, 02:02 AM	#1153 (permalink)
Armani G Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 4 George iTrader: 0 / 0%	Hey guys new to this site but have been browsing for about a few months... And now that I see I can take my Honda in for this fix, I was just wondering anyone live in Toronto Canada? If so where have you taken your car for the 3rd gear fix? Also my VIN is (2HGFG2152GH100358) I should be good to go right? It’s a 06 Honda Si I spoke to my dealership about this problem but they had no idea what I was talking about. I spoke to them about it when I was getting a new Engine in my car had to fill my oil every 3000K, so they dropped a new engine in the car about 3 months ago. The 3rd gear problem has been a bit better and happens a lot less now but still at times happens and is a bit rough going into 3rd gear. But dropping in a new engine they wouldn’t replace the gear synchronizer or the shift sleeve would they? Anymore info would be great guys. :) thanks

05-09-2008, 02:21 AM	#1154 (permalink)
Tim non-Cilantrist Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 29 Posts: 4,812 iTrader: 10 / 100%	New engine? Now that qualifies for a post here: Post your SERIOUS Mechanical or Technical Problem

05-09-2008, 03:56 AM	#1156 (permalink)
lyttleviet Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 346 iTrader: 6 / 100%	i dont meet the Vin for my FA5. lets hope mine really doesn't have an issue.

05-09-2008, 07:21 AM	#1157 (permalink)
dt07Si Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Dirty Jerz Age: 22 Posts: 1,940 Dave iTrader: 1 / 100%	I dropped my car off last night to have it checked out, we'll see what they say... On a side note, there was a Habi FG parked in the back of their lot with the hood open, and clamping device (from what I could tell, but it was mostly cover with a drop cloth) and it had no air box. Weird...

05-09-2008, 09:29 AM	#1158 (permalink)
DOHCKLR Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: OH- Posts: 79 EZZZZZZY E iTrader: 0 / 0%	Took them four days to complete the work, and two weeks to get the parts in, but hey mine is FINALLY fixed and from now on the service manager will be the one working with me, if i ever have any other probelms, and i got her personal line phone number. w00t =) And third gear seems to be working like all the others finally!!!

05-09-2008, 09:54 AM	#1159 (permalink)
Armani G Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 4 George iTrader: 0 / 0%	mine was not bought in the USA.... anywhere I can find out if this service call is for the US only?