Honda TSB 08-020 April 12, 2008 (3RD GEAR)

[JenSi]

Originally Posted by 08civicman

Me personally id rather have a chance that my car could randomly start on fire then have a 3rd gear grind.

In a sports type car the last thing on earth i want to malfunction is the transmission (in any car for that matter). This shouldnt have even been a problem with the 8th gen Si's. It should have been fixed long long ago.

Honda needs to realize that a problem like this TOTALLY takes away from the driving experience and is not just a "bothersome problem". I dont care if it doesnt threaten my life..... IT THREATENS MY SANITY!

like i said Id rather have a defect that could cause a wheel to fall off or my car to start on fire then to have a faulty transmission which honda classifies as a "minor inconvenience".

AGREED! with what is in bold.. .the rest...no I don't agree with.

[t85konrad]

well i just took my car to the dealership, and a few parts are on back order, and a seal ring wont come in until may 25 at the latest, so im a littl upset but i am happy with the way that the service writers are treating my, never had any problems with them. I will record my #0 min drive to work today and get a recording of befor and after the fix.

[nerdrum]

My dealership won't do anything since my car's vin is off by like fifteen... what can I do?

[t85konrad]

Originally Posted by nerdrum

My dealership won't do anything since my car's vin is off by like fifteen... what can I do?

file a report with North American Honda at (800) 999-1009 and let them know whats goin on and get a claims number

[Tim]

Originally Posted by 08civicman

Me personally id rather have a chance that my car could randomly start on fire then have a 3rd gear grind.

In a sports type car the last thing on earth i want to malfunction is the transmission (in any car for that matter). This shouldnt have even been a problem with the 8th gen Si's. It should have been fixed long long ago.

Honda needs to realize that a problem like this TOTALLY takes away from the driving experience and is not just a "bothersome problem". I dont care if it doesnt threaten my life..... IT THREATENS MY SANITY!

like i said Id rather have a defect that could cause a wheel to fall off or my car to start on fire then to have a faulty transmission which honda classifies as a "minor inconvenience".

I'm sorry, but that sounds pretty stupid and ridiculously self-centered. You'd rather your life and the lives of all the people that own Si's with the faulty parts to be in jeopardy than have a nuisance problem. And yes, it IS classified as a nuisance because it MUST not happen every single time that you engage 3rd gear. Surely, if it does happen each and every, you should be first in line to get the problem fixed under the TSB (or even well before such a bulletin), as that would be EASILY replicated and would have qualified as a transmission problem long ago. If it doesn't happen every single time, then you're making a mountain out of a mole hill, and you shouldn't have chosen to accept the risks, problems, and nuisances associated with buying any refreshed or redesigned vehicle that is produced by human hands- Honda, Toyota, Chinese, Japanese, German, or American. Either learn how to drive the vehicle in such a way that you don't experience the problem temporarily until you get it fixed, or turn in your keys and quickly join one of many anti-establishment camps that can malign from afar.

If you disagree with that, you always have the option to use the American legal system to generate a class action lawsuit that can serve to manifest your severe discontent and that can perhaps compensate you for your threatened sanity. The rest of us are just going to do our best to work within the system and get the work done on Honda's dime as the TSB is supposed to work.

[t85konrad]

Originally Posted by Tim

I'm sorry, but that sounds pretty stupid and ridiculously self-centered. You'd rather your life and the lives of all the people that own Si's with the faulty parts to be in jeopardy than have a nuisance problem. And yes, it IS classified as a nuisance because it MUST not happen every single time that you engage 3rd gear. Surely, if it does happen each and every, you should be first in line to get the problem fixed under the TSB (or even well before such a bulletin), as that would be EASILY replicated and would have qualified as a transmission problem long ago. If it doesn't happen every single time, then you're making a mountain out of a mole hill, and you shouldn't have chosen to accept the risks, problems, and nuisances associated with buying any refreshed or redesigned vehicle that is produced by human hands- Honda, Toyota, Chinese, Japanese, German, or American. Either learn how to drive the vehicle in such a way that you don't experience the problem temporarily until you get it fixed, or turn in your keys and quickly join one of many anti-establishment camps that can malign from afar.

If you disagree with that, you always have the option to use the American legal system to generate a class action lawsuit that can serve to manifest your severe discontent and that can perhaps compensate you for your threatened sanity. The rest of us are just going to do our best to work within the system and get the work done on Honda's dime as the TSB is supposed to work.

[melomood]

Originally Posted by Tim

I'm sorry, but that sounds pretty stupid and ridiculously self-centered. You'd rather your life and the lives of all the people that own Si's with the faulty parts to be in jeopardy than have a nuisance problem. And yes, it IS classified as a nuisance because it MUST not happen every single time that you engage 3rd gear. Surely, if it does happen each and every, you should be first in line to get the problem fixed under the TSB (or even well before such a bulletin), as that would be EASILY replicated and would have qualified as a transmission problem long ago. If it doesn't happen every single time, then you're making a mountain out of a mole hill, and you shouldn't have chosen to accept the risks, problems, and nuisances associated with buying any refreshed or redesigned vehicle that is produced by human hands- Honda, Toyota, Chinese, Japanese, German, or American. Either learn how to drive the vehicle in such a way that you don't experience the problem temporarily until you get it fixed, or turn in your keys and quickly join one of many anti-establishment camps that can malign from afar.

If you disagree with that, you always have the option to use the American legal system to generate a class action lawsuit that can serve to manifest your severe discontent and that can perhaps compensate you for your threatened sanity. The rest of us are just going to do our best to work within the system and get the work done on Honda's dime as the TSB is supposed to work.

I love Tim.

[08civicman]

Originally Posted by Tim

I'm sorry, but that sounds pretty stupid and ridiculously self-centered. You'd rather your life and the lives of all the people that own Si's with the faulty parts to be in jeopardy than have a nuisance problem. And yes, it IS classified as a nuisance because it MUST not happen every single time that you engage 3rd gear. Surely, if it does happen each and every, you should be first in line to get the problem fixed under the TSB (or even well before such a bulletin), as that would be EASILY replicated and would have qualified as a transmission problem long ago. If it doesn't happen every single time, then you're making a mountain out of a mole hill, and you shouldn't have chosen to accept the risks, problems, and nuisances associated with buying any refreshed or redesigned vehicle that is produced by human hands- Honda, Toyota, Chinese, Japanese, German, or American. Either learn how to drive the vehicle in such a way that you don't experience the problem temporarily until you get it fixed, or turn in your keys and quickly join one of many anti-establishment camps that can malign from afar.

LONG STORY SHORT = I MEANT I WOULD RATHER HAVE ANY OTHER PROBLEM IN THE WORLD AFFECT MY CAR THEN A CRAPPY TRANSMISSION!

Just got a little carried away puttin my thoughts to the keys. I didnt literally mean to endager ppls lives. I was just using it as an example.

[FG2uner]

so has there been any success with this yet?

[08civicman]

A few people have had it done and said it feels great. However Ringpop had it done and said it popped out right out of the parking lot.

To all you guys who HAVE HAD it done... Are you just keeping in the honda MTF in there? Or have any of you swapped out to the Amsoil yet?

[hoonu]

I found out the parts they are waiting for are bolts... the mods that are sitting in my garage are waiting on some ******* bolts from honda so they can complete the work. If they weren't so good to me at this dealership, I'd probably install the header and exhaust anyways. Being that they treat both my gf (she has a Honda) and myself really well, I can't really complain.... tho I am a lil butt hurt about barely loosing to my friends 96 Prelude thats gutted with a JDM H22 in it...

I need more Ponys!!!!!! After all this comes Hondata reflash...

[FG2uner]

honda still refuses to fix mine... i showed them the tsb. they say they cant replicate the prob. idk what else to do, ive taken it to them 8 or 9 times. any advice?

[hoonu]

Originally Posted by FG2uner

honda still refuses to fix mine... i showed them the tsb. they say they cant replicate the prob. idk what else to do, ive taken it to them 8 or 9 times. any advice?

I would say take it to another dealership. I know its a pain in the ass... but it beats wasting additional time.

[BRSi]

Originally Posted by FG2uner

honda still refuses to fix mine... i showed them the tsb. they say they cant replicate the prob. idk what else to do, ive taken it to them 8 or 9 times. any advice?

Take it to another dealer. If that doesn't work, file a claim with BBB and that will get the dealer's attention SPECIALLY knowing you have taken it in so many times. Good luck to all. My Si was built here in Brasil with imported parts and so far so good. I do realize 3rd gear is a bit further /longer to engage, but nothing that bothers me ... it has never popped out of 3rd. Only around 1600 miles ... hope that I don't have any problems.

[raycl]

Originally Posted by FG2uner

so has there been any success with this yet?

The second day after the fix, I really tried to get it to mess up.

Before it would grind third at high RPM and not go into fourth at high RPM.

No problems now. We'll see how it goes in a fe weeks.

[EastJunglez22]

anyone bringing their car in with a short shifter on it?? if so any probs??
do they look under your center console?
or is all the fix in the actual tranny??
noob ?'s i kno..please help

[raycl]

I have SS and Bushings. Each shop will be diff.

[trey99ek]

Should I worry about my remote starter when I take my car in? Yes, it is one specifically for a manual. I just wonder if they will look and wonder why there is an extra wire to the fuel injectors.

[EastJunglez22]

Originally Posted by raycl

I have SS and Bushings. Each shop will be diff.

have you brought urs in yet?

edit..nvr mind im dumb its right there in front of my face