Honda TSB 08-020 April 12, 2008 (3RD GEAR)

[rickhilbert]

Originally Posted by Zeuceone

how long does it take?

Read my earlier post in this thread!

[dragonzsoul]

OMFG finally!! time to argue with my stealership, then "find" the TSB and watch the look on their faces!! b!tches can't avoid this now!!!

[FusionSi11]

this TSB is still good even if im out of warranty correct? i got 50k

[yoshiod9]

yay, my '08 fa5 falls in the range. hopefully, it won't need the fix, though. i'm at 5k and haven't had any issues yet. there was a day where i thought i had shifted to third (felt like it engaged) and then pressed on the accelerator and realized i wasn't in gear. it was strange, though, cuz i heard a quiet 'thunk' noise and then realized i wasn't in gear. is that what popping out of gear is like?

[Whocares05050]

great news

[vt3c]

hope this applies for us canadians too!

[reaper702]

sweet, i'm taking mine in this summer

[mrbill]

You'll almost certainly have to wait for the new 3rd gear set to be ordered and delivered.

There's a bunch of bolts, nuts, o-rings, oil seals, set ring, pin, and washers as well.

Approximately nine hours labor, including alignment.
This is at least a whole day job if you schedule your appointment for first thing.

-mr. bill

[Honda_Si]

Originally Posted by mrbill

Transmission Grinds When Shifting Into 3rd Gear, Pops Out of 3rd Gear, or
Is Hard to Shift Into 3rd Gear

SYMPTOM
The 6-speed manual transmission grinds when shifting
into 3rd gear, pops out of 3rd gear, or is hard to shift
into 3rd gear.
NOTE: These symptoms can be intermittent and
sometimes more noticeable in colder climates.

PROBABLE CAUSE
The transmission has a faulty 3rd gear synchronizer or
3-4 shift sleeve.
CORRECTIVE ACTION
Replace the 3rd gear set.
VEHICLES AFFECTED
2003–07 Accord V6 with M/T: ALL
2008 Accord V6 with M/T 2-Door:
From VIN 1HGCS218.8A000001
thru 1HGCS218.8A003478
2006–07 Civic Si 2-Door: ALL
2008 Civic Si 2-Door:
From VIN 2HGFG215.8H700001
thru 2HGFG215.8H701973
2007 Civic Si 4-Door: ALL
2008 Civic Si 4-Door:
From VIN 2HGFA555.8H700001
thru 2HGFA555.8H702465

-mr. bill

Hallelujah!

Thanx Mr. Bill

I made another appointment Friday for them to take another look at my transmission. When I made the appointment this hadn't been posted. I was planning on it just being a waste of time. That has all changed now! Booyah!

[Tim]

When I called, I had to specifically tell the service department about the TSB #. Then he could look it up. For whatever reason, he was looking for recalls rather than TSB's (though I specifically told him what I was looking at).

[seguitarist]

Well time to head back to my dealer so they can try to "duplicate" my concern!

[Tim]

Many dealers need not fully "replicate" an issue to repair it. It's kind of hard to replicate a cold-start unless they keep it overnight.

[mitsukaiSI]

Originally Posted by mrbill

Wrong! This TSB replaces the old third gear set 23444-PNS-306 with a new third gear set 23444-PNS-316.

-mr. bill

i hope you are correct

[mitsukaiSI]

what is the tsb # anyone have it handy?

[Special Ringpop]

Originally Posted by FusionSi11

this TSB is still good even if im out of warranty correct? i got 50k

Not necessarily. Lovely of Honda, but it's up to them. They may do it in "good faith," but I wouldn't count on it unless they can REALLY feel/see it.

At least thats what the bulletin says.

I'm so happy about this. I just called my dealership and they found it. They said, "It's scary how much faster you guys online seem to get this stuff than we do..."

[Special Ringpop]

Originally Posted by mitsukaiSI

what is the tsb # anyone have it handy?

08-020.

[Special Ringpop]

I was talking to Jeremy (I VTEC Do You?) and I was mentioning something I called months ago:

Not all 2008 VIN numbers are affected. This tells me Honda started replacing the old parts with the new parts on the assembly line. That, right there, tells me that every single Si model between 2006 and 2008 (pre switch) needs to be overhauled, if it is serious enough to warrant changing the parts at the factory.

Any first year law student worth a grain of salt could argue that in court. Good luck to all of you who haven't been able to get your concerns duplicated. Now, at least, they might take you a bit serious.

Still, I totally called it being a TSB, not a recall, even though I seriously think a recall is warranted.

[mitsukaiSI]

Originally Posted by Special Ringpop

08-020.

thanks ringpop i have issue with my second gear grinding more so than third does anyone know if this is 3rd gear specific or syncro in general

[Special Ringpop]

3rd and 4th, if I am reading the TSB correctly.

[Piotrush]

VERY happy to see this at last!!