Honda TSB 08-020 April 12, 2008 (3RD GEAR)

[jackolee]

well from what you guys are telling me, my third gear is notchy right now, and if im not paying attention and only let the gear go in half way, and release clutch, it grinds on me.

and then pops out if my hand is no longer on it

[jackolee]

Originally Posted by ocspray

Wrong. It's not a recall. Unless Honda can prove that the mod caused a problem, it shouldn't be a factor.

but they might try to void the warranty tho..

[rob76]

Oh yeah, it'll grind for sure. The more you grind it the sooner you'll wear it out.

Also, I always ease it into third just to give the synchros more time to do their job. I don't hammer it in because that only wears them out. I treat my tranny like it's made of glass. Unless I'm racing, which isn't often.

[rob76]

Just give yourself time to get it into gear. It's hard because first instinct says you should shift so fast and hard your tires squeel. Just train yourself to wait until you feel the shifter is fully engaged.

[rob76]

A lot of times if I shift before my clutch foot is all the way down I'll feel notchiness too. Don't even start moving your shifter until your clutch is down.

[K20Redline]

Originally Posted by rob76

Just give yourself time to get it into gear. It's hard because first instinct says you should shift so fast and hard your tires squeel. Just train yourself to wait until you feel the shifter is fully engaged.

naa you see that ticks me off thats not how my car is meant to be driven its an Si its supposed to be fun quick shift action I mean whats the point of having a 6speed MT if your not gonna use it like its meant to be used "normal"

[jackolee]

lol.... i shift slow but with a sort of quick switftness

and thats basicly why alot of ppl have 2nd gear grinds
they shift too fast before teh clutch has a chance to disengage and go into sencond causing it to grind

[K20Redline]

Originally Posted by jackolee

lol.... i shift slow but with a sort of quick switftness

and thats basicly why alot of ppl have 2nd gear grinds
they shift too fast before teh clutch has a chance to disengage and go into sencond causing it to grind

you see that makes no sense thou about the second gear I mean why not 3ed or 4th but 2nd is the only one it happens for me and that sux! especially when Im at the track and I feel like I have a perfect launch and then second gear Fox me up!

[jackolee]

lol and then everyone is staring at you like WOW he sucks hahahaha

you just have to hold the cluch a second or even half a second longer. once you get it. it will be liek second nature to you.

and probably cause your in first gear and first gear has alot of pressure on it from you shifting from high rpms

[K20Redline]

Originally Posted by jackolee

lol and then everyone is staring at you like WOW he sucks hahahaha

you just have to hold the cluch a second or even half a second longer. once you get it. it will be liek second nature to you.

and probably cause your in first gear and first gear has alot of pressure on it from you shifting from high rpms

lOl I would never grind my 2nd while regular shifting it only happens when I power shift and thats the only way Ill beat my 14.4!

[jackolee]

..... i never do that... first i dont even know how
second i dont even want to try on a new car
third my si is only second to my gf hahaha

and ive never gotten to 14.4 ...... wanna teach me how to power shift?

[rob76]

Good god, cars break pretty easy dude. I hope you have lots of money!

[ocspray]

Originally Posted by jackolee

but they might try to void the warranty tho..

Let's back up. This is not a recall, which is why there must be a problem observed by Honda before the service is performed. A Safety Recall usually has a TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) associated with it, but most TSBs aren't associated with a Safety Recall. This is also why you'll get a blank look of indifference if you rant about a recall at the service counter; there isn't one.

As for the mod = voided warranty issue, I have no desire to open that can of worms. I wouldn't continue working with a person convinced that an aftermarket intake is responsible for a dead 3rd gear synchro, especially as the part has been identified as possibly faulty.

[jackolee]

dude im just saying honda will try and pull anything

[michinsi]

Originally Posted by sirgatti

It's kind of hard to explain. It's like you feel it engage half way, push more because you aren't sure if it's in or not, and then it goes in the other half. This is normally followed by large amounts of swearing and/or gritting of the teeth for the next few seconds.

I have the same exact problem! It goes half way into 3rd and you wait for a second or two and it goes in all the way. I hate that.....

[K20Redline]

Originally Posted by jackolee

..... i never do that... first i dont even know how
second i dont even want to try on a new car
third my si is only second to my gf hahaha

and ive never gotten to 14.4 ...... wanna teach me how to power shift?

first lOl at second to gf I hope shes a sweet heart cause It used to be the same with me intill that changed because of my gf just played to many games in the end it was one sided and I dumped her and sux that 2 years were wasted! Powershifting is not for everyone and is hard on transmission and should be used very rarely due to the Harshness of its nature. Its like so you know when you go thru your regular shift involves letting go of gas pedal pressing in clutch then letting go and back on gas well just skip the whole letting go off gas pedal and only press clutch pedal enough for the pressure plate to disengage clutch shift and let go of clutch pedal all this needs to be done in a good timed manner and done really fast!

[jackolee]

Originally Posted by michinsi

I have the same exact problem! It goes half way into 3rd and you wait for a second or two and it goes in all the way. I hate that.....

i feel your pain dude.

thats why im debating if i should go to honda, since ill just be in the same boat again

[K20Redline]

Originally Posted by jackolee

i feel your pain dude.

thats why im debating if i should go to honda, since ill just be in the same boat again

did you guys change your MT fluid I had them do that and it made it better but did not make it disappear.

[ocspray]

Originally Posted by jackolee

dude im just saying honda will try and pull anything

Um...yeah. Just like the CAI Submariners and the Moneyshifters, right? You win. Honda is the root of all problems, and they "will try and pull anything". Whatever.

[rob76]

Originally Posted by jackolee

i feel your pain dude.

thats why im debating if i should go to honda, since ill just be in the same boat again

If it's not actually grinding when you go to put it in third but mearly notchy then save your time. Shift properly and forget about it.