Our transmission woes are over, TSB for Honda transmissions

[thabends]

Originally Posted by rodneyskate

I think that for us that have this problem, were all better off just shifting straight from 2nd to 4th...

I didn't sense any sarcasm in that. Are you serious? You're happy with that? I don't even have any tranny problems and that comment made me cry.

[Doppler Bob]

FYI all, my car is getting this fix completed as we speak. I'll have it back this afternoon.

[Doppler Bob]

Originally Posted by Vegas06si

maybe synchros and forkset? i know they replaced both

Exactly. 3rd is being replaced along with the shift fork in mine.

[GG S.I]

I recently took my s.I not to long ago and the tech actually drove my car to see the problem with the 3rd gear. And after he came back from the test drive, he told me he heard about the problem, and that there wasn't a problem with the gear. What it is is that ppl rev to high w

[dragonzsoul]

Originally Posted by saLLSI

LOl emailing the president is not what ill do , im just going to go straight to the corp for not doing anything about the problem then i will file a law suit and fight Honda in the court room for performance drivers which most of us on the website are performance drivers having the gears not grip 1. could be potentially dangerous 2. does not allow you to enjoy the car the way you would want to 2. driving stick should be a fun experience on a decently fast car that u payed for and if u cant enjoy that then whats the point of owning one ! BUMP this up cause now is when the consumer fights back its our only chance

i completely agree! i actually had a tech tell me i was shifting too fast.. wtf? this isn't exactly a corolla or focus. it's a Si, if i wanna shift fast, i expect it should be able to. if honda doesn't do anything about my problems, suing them seems like a really good option. the safety card is a good one. imagine shifting into 3rd in a corner, and not having power because it didn't go in.. as soon as someone gets in a crash because of this *knock on wood* make a report to the NHTSA. that'll get honda's freaking attention.. b!tches..

Originally Posted by rodneyskate

I think that for us that have this problem, were all better off just shifting straight from 2nd to 4th...

there are certain spirited conditions where shifting from 2nd to 4th isn't a solution

Originally Posted by Doppler Bob

FYI all, my car is getting this fix completed as we speak. I'll have it back this afternoon.

good luck! hope it solves your problems!

Originally Posted by GG S.I

I recently took my s.I not to long ago and the tech actually drove my car to see the problem with the 3rd gear. And after he came back from the test drive, he told me he heard about the problem, and that there wasn't a problem with the gear. What it is is that ppl rev to high w

wanna elaborate a bit? when tech's drive it, the problem magically goes away... it always happened on my car.. i had to end up making it grind a little.. then when the tech drove it, i kept praying for my car to grind.. it finally did.. they made a note of it.

i don't understand the last part of your post

[GG S.I]

Sorry bout the previous post i was trying to post something from my sidekick and the damn thing kept freezing.

I recently took my s.I not to long ago and the tech actually drove my car to see the problem with the 3rd gear. And after he came back from the test drive, he told me he heard about the problem, and that there wasn't a problem with the gear. What it is is that ppl rev to high wΣn switching to 3rd gear. And he told me if you switch gears properly like it is sed in the manual then you do₪'t have the problem. And he said since I'm switching at the proper times I won't be able to replicate it, thus I ca₪'t say there is anything wrong with your gear. He also said that he knows ppl drive the car fast or try 2 race or w.Σ and that's wΣn the problem occurs but if the shifts are done accurately the problem does₪'t occur. He also said that honda more than likely knows the s.I is a performance car, but that does₪'t mean the owner has 2 drive it like that, so do₪'t expect them to issue a fix. Now after all that I decided 2 c if wut he was saying was true at all. Sure enuff tho I did₪'t run into 3rd gear problems when I did that. So from what he said there I really doubt Honda will do anything to fix the problem.

[dragonzsoul]

Originally Posted by GG S.I

I recently took my s.I not to long ago and the tech actually drove my car to see the problem with the 3rd gear. And after he came back from the test drive, he told me he heard about the problem, and that there wasn't a problem with the gear. What it is is that ppl rev to high w

what does that mean?

[racerx78]

I've actually been working with Amer. Honda and my dealer and they both said that there is a TSB about the 6spd tranny in the Accord comming out not sure if it will cover our cars also. I just did my spring maint. which included new tranny fluid so i'm like butter (for now) with my shifts. Until the official fix comes out i'm going to just change my tranny fluid with my engine oil. I know i shouldn't have to but until its fixed its not going to hurt anything

[EastJunglez22]

so when this fix comes..and i bring my car in..should i remove my Comptech short shifter..or does it not make a difference?

[racerx78]

Technically i shouldn't make a diff. But depending on your dealership, they may be dicks and say that is causing the issue. Or if voids your warranty. But technically it shouldn't matter. i know of some people who remove it just so they can get the work done, so they don't have to worry about then whining about it

[Special Ringpop]

Originally Posted by racerx78

I've actually been working with Amer. Honda and my dealer and they both said that there is a TSB about the 6spd tranny in the Accord comming out not sure if it will cover our cars also. I just did my spring maint. which included new tranny fluid so i'm like butter (for now) with my shifts. Until the official fix comes out i'm going to just change my tranny fluid with my engine oil. I know i shouldn't have to but until its fixed its not going to hurt anything

Wow...that's hilarious. American Honda actually works with customers? Their phone support, based on the Case Files thread, seems to be utterly no help to consumers at all (knowledge wise or effort wise).

Funny that the Accords 6MT TSB will be coming out. Heaven forbid they fix the tuner car who needs it too...damn "ricers" probably just beat the car...

Where's the eye rolling smilie when you need it.

Good info!

[GG S.I]

Originally Posted by dragonzsoul

what does that mean?

Well I believe he meant that when switching gears, like it is suggested by our manuals, honda believe that when ppl switch it is beyond that point and of course beyond the 3 or 4 rpms that it is suppose 2 b switched at we are switching @ 5 or 6 rpms, which causes the gears 2 grind and make it pop out and what not. He even told me that he has changed the syncros and the tranny fluid on some s.I's but told me that it really doesn't help most people end up coming back still complaining

[DBruceM2]

Originally Posted by GG S.I

Well I believe he meant that when switching gears, like it is suggested by our manuals, honda believe that when ppl switch it is beyond that point and of course beyond the 3 or 4 rpms that it is suppose 2 b switched at we are switching @ 5 or 6 rpms, which causes the gears 2 grind and make it pop out and what not. He even told me that he has changed the syncros and the tranny fluid on some s.I's but told me that it really doesn't help most people end up coming back still complaining

I respectfully declare B.S. I rarely shift at anything higher than 3 to 4K rpm.... and I stress rarely. I am a very very mellow driver. Any gear in my gearbox is lucky to see anything higher than 4500 rpm. I bought the car with 10 miles on it, and it hasn't been beaten on at all. I bought the car expecting to drive it for the next 10 years.
This said, I still experience the 3rd gear pop-out and the 2nd gear rub/crunch. Third popped out on me just this morning.

[Vegas06si]

DBruce, i agree with your BS flag... since ive gotten mine "fixed" i drive it just as I did before (revving between 6-7 sometimes..mostly between 5-6) and i havent had any problems since...its now been just short of 2 months. Even the Honda Master Mechanic who did my car looked at the fork for 3-4 and was like "how the **** did this thing get this way? This thing is done...i dunno how you were able to shift into 3rd at all. Good thing we did this when we did!" So i think that there is in fact a problem with the trans from the plant(s)...maybe some people dont have it because theirs was built elsewhere.... who knows.

[aki]

Originally Posted by DBruceM2

I respectfully declare B.S. I rarely shift at anything higher than 3 to 4K rpm.... and I stress rarely. I am a very very mellow driver. Any gear in my gearbox is lucky to see anything higher than 4500 rpm. I bought the car with 10 miles on it, and it hasn't been beaten on at all. I bought the car expecting to drive it for the next 10 years.
This said, I still experience the 3rd gear pop-out and the 2nd gear rub/crunch. Third popped out on me just this morning.

Imaginary rep for you. I had 3rd gear issues since day one.

[User_name:]

I had neutral pop out on me lastnite...

[Gonzo]

Originally Posted by User_name:

I had neutral pop out on me lastnite...

Now that takes skill.




Thread title edited due to massive caps lock failure.

[dragonzsoul]

Originally Posted by GG S.I

Well I believe he meant that when switching gears, like it is suggested by our manuals, honda believe that when ppl switch it is beyond that point and of course beyond the 3 or 4 rpms that it is suppose 2 b switched at we are switching @ 5 or 6 rpms, which causes the gears 2 grind and make it pop out and what not. He even told me that he has changed the syncros and the tranny fluid on some s.I's but told me that it really doesn't help most people end up coming back still complaining

perhaps, but honestly.. it's a Si.. who shifts that low? no offense to people who baby their cars.

Originally Posted by Vegas06si

DBruce, i agree with your BS flag... since ive gotten mine "fixed" i drive it just as I did before (revving between 6-7 sometimes..mostly between 5-6) and i havent had any problems since...its now been just short of 2 months. Even the Honda Master Mechanic who did my car looked at the fork for 3-4 and was like "how the **** did this thing get this way? This thing is done...i dunno how you were able to shift into 3rd at all. Good thing we did this when we did!" So i think that there is in fact a problem with the trans from the plant(s)...maybe some people dont have it because theirs was built elsewhere.... who knows.

good point to bring up actually. how many different plants is the Si built at?

[DBruceM2]

It's my understanding that all Si coupes are built in Canada. I think the transmissions are built in Japan. All of the standard 4 dr civics (LX, EX) are built in Ohio. I don't know if the 4dr Si is built in Ohio or not.

[dragonzsoul]

yeah that's what i thought. i was wondering if they moved or expanded Si production