My brakes don't work!!!!

itzwykd · 03-01-2008, 10:55 AM

Took off my calipers to get the powder coated. Went to put them back on and went through the whole process of bleeding and making sure the reservior did not run dry. Put all my wheels on and went to drive out of the shop and... I have no brakes. Pedal goes straight to the floor. You can pump it a couple of times and it will show some signs of braking but nowhere near what it needs to be. I even tried to bleed the master cyclinder. Is there something simple I am missing. I knew I should not have taken those brakes off to do this but I was being hard headed as usual.

Shark Tek · 03-01-2008, 11:40 AM

You still have air in the lines.

**ImTheVoiceOfGod** · 03-01-2008, 11:42 AM

^

I concure.

itzwykd · 03-01-2008, 05:07 PM

I have been through three 32oz bottles. How much bleeding does it take.

distrbd · 03-01-2008, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itzwykd

I have been through three 32oz bottles. How much bleeding does it take.

There's an order to follow when you bleed ,like front driver's side first then rear passnger ,I'm not exactly sure about our civics but the order to bleed is important.

pkkid · 03-01-2008, 08:49 PM

You start at the back right wheel, furthest from the master cylinder. Use the vacuum till fluid starts coming out, then close up the bleeding nut. Repeat.

FG207Si · 03-01-2008, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pkkid

You start at the back right wheel, furthest from the master cylinder. Use the vacuum till fluid starts coming out, then close up the bleeding nut. Repeat.

, but when you see the brake fluid coming through the line you need to keep pumping it until you don't see anymore bubbles in the line.

pkkid · 03-01-2008, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by FG207Si

, but when you see the brake fluid coming through the line you need to keep pumping it until you don't see anymore bubbles in the line.

I was taught the butcher way

Hyperion · 03-01-2008, 09:44 PM

You dident put the calipers on the wrong side did you? Are the bleeder screws on top ?

bluesunit · 03-01-2008, 10:23 PM

Sounds like you managed to get air in the master cylinder. You'll have to have someone with a vacuum unit purge the entire system. Had a similar thing happen to my buddy's EP3 on a track day.

Might be time to hit up a professional.

Also, the bleed sequence is driver's front, and then proceed clockwise from there. Per Civic service manual.

tite681 · 03-01-2008, 11:24 PM

I know this is a little off topic, but has anyone tried Speedbleeders? They're supposed to make bleeding brakes super easy.

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bluesunit · 03-02-2008, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tite681

I know this is a little off topic, but has anyone tried Speedbleeders? They're supposed to make bleeding brakes super easy.

Speed Bleeder Bleeding Brakes Bleeding Motorcycle Brakes Automotive Bleeder Screw Brake Bleeder

I do.

They work as advertised. Much easier than finding someone who can follow instructions.

udumkid · 03-02-2008, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by distrbd

There's an order to follow when you bleed ,like front driver's side first then rear passnger ,I'm not exactly sure about our civics but the order to bleed is important.

Start with the caliper furthest to the master cylinder..

pass side rear.
driver side rear.
pass front.
driver side front.

to the op, can you see any trace of fluid anywhere in the brake system>?

06Si_LoveR · 03-02-2008, 12:33 AM

Dang bro that sucks... good luck getting everything straight

bluesunit · 03-02-2008, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by udumkid

Start with the caliper furthest to the master cylinder..

pass side rear.
driver side rear.
pass front.
driver side front.

to the op, can you see any trace of fluid anywhere in the brake system>?

Seriously, read page 19-10, volume 2 of the Civic factory service manual. Start with the front left and proceed clockwise.

You'd be right on most cars. Apparently the EBD has some fancy piping.

pkkid · 03-02-2008, 10:31 PM

^ I learned from Honda techs during my co-op, service manual vs. actual Techs.

who knows?!!

KingMarineM16a4 · 03-03-2008, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itzwykd

Took off my calipers to get the powder coated. Went to put them back on and went through the whole process of bleeding and making sure the reservior did not run dry. Put all my wheels on and went to drive out of the shop and... I have no brakes. Pedal goes straight to the floor. You can pump it a couple of times and it will show some signs of braking but nowhere near what it needs to be. I even tried to bleed the master cyclinder. Is there something simple I am missing. I knew I should not have taken those brakes off to do this but I was being hard headed as usual.

Bleed brakes, put correct amount of brake fluid in the res. Done.

itzwykd · 03-03-2008, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hyperion

You dident put the calipers on the wrong side did you? Are the bleeder screws on top ?

Yes they are the top. The calipers were lableled left and right. I hope I was smart enough to read the label though

itzwykd · 03-03-2008, 08:43 AM

It's at honda right now. E-braked it all the way on saturday morning. I will find out today what happened. I feel like an ediot. I have put on every part on my car including the s/c and I don't know how to bleed brakes...?! This does not sit well. with me.

OhondaU · 03-03-2008, 10:59 AM

Honestly, I would invest in a vacuum pump. They aren't that expensive. you can even get hand pump models if you look hard enough. That with speed bleeders will save you MANY headaches if you do your own brake service.

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itzwykd Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Columbus, GA Age: 31 Posts: 473 Kevin Briggs iTrader: 1 / 100%	My brakes don't work!!!! Took off my calipers to get the powder coated. Went to put them back on and went through the whole process of bleeding and making sure the reservior did not run dry. Put all my wheels on and went to drive out of the shop and... I have no brakes. Pedal goes straight to the floor. You can pump it a couple of times and it will show some signs of braking but nowhere near what it needs to be. I even tried to bleed the master cyclinder. Is there something simple I am missing. I knew I should not have taken those brakes off to do this but I was being hard headed as usual.

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itzwykd Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Columbus, GA Age: 31 Posts: 473 Kevin Briggs iTrader: 1 / 100%	I have been through three 32oz bottles. How much bleeding does it take.

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pkkid Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,779 iTrader: 1 / 100%	You start at the back right wheel, furthest from the master cylinder. Use the vacuum till fluid starts coming out, then close up the bleeding nut. Repeat.

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Hyperion Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 12 iTrader: 0 / 0%	You dident put the calipers on the wrong side did you? Are the bleeder screws on top ?

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bluesunit Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA Age: 29 Posts: 309 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Sounds like you managed to get air in the master cylinder. You'll have to have someone with a vacuum unit purge the entire system. Had a similar thing happen to my buddy's EP3 on a track day. Might be time to hit up a professional. Also, the bleed sequence is driver's front, and then proceed clockwise from there. Per Civic service manual.

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tite681 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Hella SF Posts: 4,607 ButchMX! iTrader: 5 / 100%	I know this is a little off topic, but has anyone tried Speedbleeders? They're supposed to make bleeding brakes super easy. Speed Bleeder Bleeding Brakes Bleeding Motorcycle Brakes Automotive Bleeder Screw Brake Bleeder

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06Si_LoveR Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Baton Rouge Age: 27 Posts: 2,039 iTrader: 4 / 100%	Dang bro that sucks... good luck getting everything straight

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pkkid Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,779 iTrader: 1 / 100%	^ I learned from Honda techs during my co-op, service manual vs. actual Techs. who knows?!!

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itzwykd Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Columbus, GA Age: 31 Posts: 473 Kevin Briggs iTrader: 1 / 100%	It's at honda right now. E-braked it all the way on saturday morning. I will find out today what happened. I feel like an ediot. I have put on every part on my car including the s/c and I don't know how to bleed brakes...?! This does not sit well. with me.

03-03-2008, 10:59 AM	#20 (permalink)
OhondaU Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ohio Age: 26 Posts: 106 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Honestly, I would invest in a vacuum pump. They aren't that expensive. you can even get hand pump models if you look hard enough. That with speed bleeders will save you MANY headaches if you do your own brake service.