Cold Weather Problem

Retro · 02-01-2008, 12:50 AM

Everyday in the mornings or evenings when the temperature is around 30 degrees my si is extreamly hard or impossible to shift gears. The clutch gets really loose (alot of play). I have taken it into the dealership and they drained the fluids and refilled. Problem still accurs, they then told me that this is normal with some vehicles...bs.... I was thinking it is the master cylinder but they checked it and said it is fine. Any help is greatly appreciated!!!!

P.S. My warranty is expired so I think they are just to lasy to fix

anavrin351 · 02-01-2008, 12:54 AM

It is a problem with the SI. 3rd is a pain and you just have to make sure you go threw both notches in 3rd gear otherwise it can also pop out. Some people also have a hard time with 2nd, but i have not experianced that unless i was at high RPMs. If you do a search on the subject it will come up with a million threads already on this topic.

Retro · 02-01-2008, 01:05 AM

I'm aware of that problem but this is completly different. At times I cant get it in gear at all 1st,2nd,3rd,4th,5th,or 6th! I have to either pump the clutch or put it in reverse in order to in gear, and the only gear it will go into is third. Thanks for the reply, any additional help is appreciated.

Sevy316 · 02-01-2008, 01:07 AM

does it get any better after the car has warmed up?

Retro · 02-01-2008, 01:12 AM

No, I can be driving all day but once the weather gets to somewhere around 30 degrees it starts acting up.

anavrin351 · 02-01-2008, 01:53 AM

is there any fluid coming from the master cylinder?

mohouse · 02-01-2008, 02:10 AM

this might sund like a serious issue..... you might wanna get a second opinion (dealership) on this!

Retro · 02-01-2008, 09:49 AM

No, there is no fluid leaking... and it was the dealership that I took it to.... They told me that they have brand new cars off the lot that do this....which is just a bunch of B.S.!!!!!! I just think that they couldn't find out what was wrong so they just blew me off...

BigT · 02-01-2008, 12:03 PM

It could be a clutch master cylinder or slave cylinder. You said you don't see any leaks, I'm sure you checked to see if the master cylinder is full of fluid.

It is strange that it only happens when cold, but it does sound like the master or slave cylinder is bad. How many miles on the car? Stock clutch?

If you have to "pump up" the pedal it definitely seems like that is your problem. You could also try simply bleeding the system. Air in the system could cause a problem like this. However, if you aren't low on fluid and don't have a leak the only way air could really get in was if the master or slave cylinder was bad anyway.

Good luck. Keep us posted.

Retro · 02-01-2008, 12:41 PM

Yes I did check the fluid, I have about 38,000 miles on the car and it is the stock clutch. I did bleed the system and there was air in the line. Could it be a gasket or something expanding an decompressing with the cold and warm temperatures???

ziwang55 · 02-02-2008, 03:26 PM

did honda ever did a recall on the civic with 3rd gear promblems?? cuz i see that 9 out of every 10 have that issue

drahgon · 02-02-2008, 03:30 PM

yeah, definitely not normal if it does that when the car is warmed up. We've had a cold stretch here with temps in the -20 to -30 celsius and windchills down to -50 and even then, once my car is warmed up, everything works like it normally does.

cambodianricer · 02-03-2008, 03:37 AM

in the cold, its hard to shift into 2nd and 3rd

Retro · 02-06-2008, 10:17 AM

it hard to shift in every gear...

Retro · 02-08-2008, 10:43 AM

Bump?!?!?!?

***7002iSciviC*** · 02-08-2008, 11:32 AM

theres 10000000 threads like this use search plz...

Sevy316 · 02-08-2008, 12:02 PM

might try going to a different dealership and have them diagnose it

cambodianricer · 02-09-2008, 03:06 AM

now it grinds going into 2nd and 3rd. and this is when it's warmed up. i have 180 miles

Retro · 02-12-2008, 12:42 AM

Bump?!!??

02-01-2008, 12:50 AM	#1 (permalink)
Retro Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 25 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Cold Weather Problem Everyday in the mornings or evenings when the temperature is around 30 degrees my si is extreamly hard or impossible to shift gears. The clutch gets really loose (alot of play). I have taken it into the dealership and they drained the fluids and refilled. Problem still accurs, they then told me that this is normal with some vehicles...bs.... I was thinking it is the master cylinder but they checked it and said it is fine. Any help is greatly appreciated!!!! P.S. My warranty is expired so I think they are just to lasy to fix

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02-01-2008, 12:54 AM	#2 (permalink)
anavrin351 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Seattle Age: 24 Posts: 2,034 Tyler iTrader: 3 / 100%	It is a problem with the SI. 3rd is a pain and you just have to make sure you go threw both notches in 3rd gear otherwise it can also pop out. Some people also have a hard time with 2nd, but i have not experianced that unless i was at high RPMs. If you do a search on the subject it will come up with a million threads already on this topic.

02-01-2008, 01:05 AM	#3 (permalink)
Retro Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 25 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I'm aware of that problem but this is completly different. At times I cant get it in gear at all 1st,2nd,3rd,4th,5th,or 6th! I have to either pump the clutch or put it in reverse in order to in gear, and the only gear it will go into is third. Thanks for the reply, any additional help is appreciated.

02-01-2008, 01:07 AM	#4 (permalink)
Sevy316 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cleveland Age: 23 Posts: 301 Jon iTrader: 0 / 0%	does it get any better after the car has warmed up?

02-01-2008, 01:12 AM	#5 (permalink)
Retro Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 25 iTrader: 0 / 0%	No, I can be driving all day but once the weather gets to somewhere around 30 degrees it starts acting up.

02-01-2008, 01:53 AM	#6 (permalink)
anavrin351 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Seattle Age: 24 Posts: 2,034 Tyler iTrader: 3 / 100%	is there any fluid coming from the master cylinder?

02-01-2008, 02:10 AM	#7 (permalink)
mohouse Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: FORMERLY: Jersey City, NJ/ CURRENTLY: San Jose, CA Age: 26 Posts: 4,168 Mo iTrader: 1 / 100%	this might sund like a serious issue..... you might wanna get a second opinion (dealership) on this!

02-01-2008, 09:49 AM	#8 (permalink)
Retro Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 25 iTrader: 0 / 0%	No, there is no fluid leaking... and it was the dealership that I took it to.... They told me that they have brand new cars off the lot that do this....which is just a bunch of B.S.!!!!!! I just think that they couldn't find out what was wrong so they just blew me off...

02-01-2008, 12:03 PM	#9 (permalink)
BigT Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Duff Beer Krusty Burger Buzz Cola Costington's Department Store Kwik-E-Mart Stupid Flanders Park Posts: 1,784 iTrader: 1 / 100%	It could be a clutch master cylinder or slave cylinder. You said you don't see any leaks, I'm sure you checked to see if the master cylinder is full of fluid. It is strange that it only happens when cold, but it does sound like the master or slave cylinder is bad. How many miles on the car? Stock clutch? If you have to "pump up" the pedal it definitely seems like that is your problem. You could also try simply bleeding the system. Air in the system could cause a problem like this. However, if you aren't low on fluid and don't have a leak the only way air could really get in was if the master or slave cylinder was bad anyway. Good luck. Keep us posted.

02-01-2008, 12:41 PM	#10 (permalink)
Retro Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 25 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Yes I did check the fluid, I have about 38,000 miles on the car and it is the stock clutch. I did bleed the system and there was air in the line. Could it be a gasket or something expanding an decompressing with the cold and warm temperatures???

02-02-2008, 03:26 PM	#11 (permalink)
ziwang55 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 301 iTrader: 0 / 0%	did honda ever did a recall on the civic with 3rd gear promblems?? cuz i see that 9 out of every 10 have that issue

02-02-2008, 03:30 PM	#12 (permalink)
drahgon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 1,481 Daryl iTrader: 0 / 0%	yeah, definitely not normal if it does that when the car is warmed up. We've had a cold stretch here with temps in the -20 to -30 celsius and windchills down to -50 and even then, once my car is warmed up, everything works like it normally does.

02-03-2008, 03:37 AM	#13 (permalink)
cambodianricer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Rside Posts: 4,991 Jason iTrader: 6 / 100%	in the cold, its hard to shift into 2nd and 3rd

02-06-2008, 10:17 AM	#14 (permalink)
Retro Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 25 iTrader: 0 / 0%	it hard to shift in every gear...

02-08-2008, 10:43 AM	#15 (permalink)
Retro Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 25 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Bump?!?!?!?

02-08-2008, 11:32 AM	#16 (permalink)
*7002iSciviC* Master Ninja Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Wichita Kansas USA Age: 21 Posts: 3,168 Andrew iTrader: 2 / 100%	theres 10000000 threads like this use search plz...

02-08-2008, 12:02 PM	#17 (permalink)
Sevy316 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cleveland Age: 23 Posts: 301 Jon iTrader: 0 / 0%	might try going to a different dealership and have them diagnose it

02-09-2008, 03:06 AM	#18 (permalink)
cambodianricer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Rside Posts: 4,991 Jason iTrader: 6 / 100%	now it grinds going into 2nd and 3rd. and this is when it's warmed up. i have 180 miles

02-12-2008, 12:42 AM	#19 (permalink)
Retro Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 25 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Bump?!!??